Megatron (gen 1 cartoon) vs. Ganondorf (TP)

Started by cdtm11 pages

Originally posted by The Scenario
Now, the Living Tribunal most definitely has some way to prevent Ganondorf from coming back to life, even if I don't know that much about him. Most High Heralds and above should have some way to deal with that through versatility if anything.

Is anyone going to tell me Megatron's feats?

So we're only using the cartoon? Not the comics?

His best feats really come from the comics.... I mean, an entire army with heavy armor took a shot at him once. The fallout from him randomly firing his fusion cannon into the air while he was ranting and raving at his subordinates sent them running with their tail between their legs in short order, and he never even knew they were there.

Well.. Off the top of my head. in the toon he did finish off Omega Supreme. In gun form, and after the other Decepticons took some pot shots that really only caused superficial damage..

Originally posted by cdtm
So we're only using the cartoon? Not the comics?

His best feats really come from the comics.... I mean, an entire army with heavy armor took a shot at him once. The fallout from him randomly firing his fusion cannon into the air while he was ranting and raving at his subordinates sent them running with their tail between their legs in short order, and he never even knew they were there.

Well.. Off the top of my head. in the toon he did finish off Omega Supreme. In gun form, and after the other Decepticons took some pot shots that really only caused superficial damage..

Really what this comes down to, imho, is that Megatron has no way to truly harm Ganon, who in turn has exotic powers he can wield against Megatron. shrug

Ganondorf doesn't even need a body to function, destroying him physically achieves nothing if you don't take away the power that sustains him.

Originally posted by The Scenario
But not greater than Midna's.
Yes, it is. Midna's attacks is speculation since time had passed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it is. Midna's attacks is speculation since time had passed.

Same for Megatron, to be honest. The cliff didn't collapse until several seconds after he shot it.

Midna blew up the castle near instantly.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Same for Megatron, to be honest. The cliff didn't collapse until several seconds after he shot it.

Midna blew up the castle near instantly.

We see it go down due to his blast unlike the Midna speculative feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see it go down due to his blast unlike the Midna speculative feat.

But Midna's feat isn't speculative. We clearly see her attack.

Originally posted by The Scenario
But Midna's feat isn't speculative. We clearly see her attack.
Too much time passes between the castle falling to definitively say.

Megatron isn't on screen when the cliff collapses, it's speculation that he caused it because it is not all one uninterrupted shot.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Megatron isn't on screen when the cliff collapses, it's speculation that he caused it because it is not all one uninterrupted shot.
We see the blast hit and then it collapses. It is pretty obvious. Megatron destroys Dorf with one blast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see the blast hit and then it collapses. It is pretty obvious. Megatron destroys Dorf with one blast.
Could have been a different blast, after all, Megatron was off screen.

Oh, and collapsing a cliff is small time next to straight up castle busting, lol.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Could have been a different blast, after all, Megatron was off screen.

Oh, and collapsing a cliff is small time next to straight up castle busting, lol.

We see his blast hit. Entirely different than 8 seconds later and the castle goes boom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see his blast hit. Entirely different than 8 seconds later and the castle goes boom.

It's the same thing, since both are just a scene change between the attack and the effects.

Try again.

Originally posted by The Scenario
It's the same thing, since both are just a scene change between the attack and the effects.

Try again.

No, since all that time passes. Teleportation takes time in the Tp game.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, since all that time passes. Teleportation takes time in the Tp game.

Not as much time as you seem to think.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Not as much time as you seem to think.
Enough time for it to be speculative.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Enough time for it to be speculative.

Then so is Megatron's.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Then so is Megatron's.
not at all. We clearly see his blast did so. The same cannot be said for Midna.

Indeed, especially considering we only see Megatron fire the first shot, which explodes harmlessly in the background. We don't see him fire the 2nd shot (the one that collapse the Cliffside)

Should I run with the notion that it is speculative that Megatron even fired the shot that did the damage? Because that is Quan's current train of logic.

Of course. We never saw Megatron's shot destroy the cliff, and he was offscreen when it collapsed. Any speculation that Megatron destroyed the cliff is just that: speculation.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Indeed, especially considering we only see Megatron fire the first shot, which explodes harmlessly in the background. We don't see him fire the 2nd shot (the one that collapse the Cliffside)

Should I run with the notion that it is speculative that Megatron even fired the shot that did the damage? Because that is Quan's current train of logic.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Of course. We never saw Megatron's shot destroy the cliff, and he was offscreen when it collapsed. Any speculation that Megatron destroyed the cliff is just that: speculation.
It doesn't matter since all already conceded it was he who did so. I don't concede that Midna did so. This isn't the first time Scen went bonkers due to being outdebated.