Originally posted by carver9
Planet busting?
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
His fight vs Ixaya destroys casually the old world and of the old godsApparently this Darkseid is a MULTIVERSAL entity as He goes around destroying JLA's from other universes, the JLA of earth 1 was the first one capable of "defeating him"
Here he apparently casually destroys another planet
Here is Darkseid in his "trophy" room
WRITTER? GREG PAK
I own the comics. I'm not questioning him being able to destroy a planet, what i am saying is, there are people here that are planet busters as well...as stated per Hickman.
Originally posted by carver9
I own the comics. I'm not questioning him being able to destroy a planet, what i am saying is, there are people here that are planet busters as well...as stated per Hickman.
So is Superman, Ultraman, Green Lantern and he owned those teams, so whats the point?
Thanos does not has a planet busting feat under Hickman and see how he treated those guys who according to him are planet busters.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So is Superman, Ultraman, Green Lantern and he owned those teams, so whats the point?
So Superman, Ultraman and Green Lantern are planet busters now?
Superman, whose damage output is stated to be around mountain level at the moment.
Ultraman, who pushed the Moon around so far and that's it.
Green Lantern, who gets his shield broken by everything and everyone.
Man, the fanboyism on this board...
Darkseid loses. Period. Don't try to turn him into something he is not, just because you like DC comics.
Originally posted by Enzeru
So Superman, Ultraman and Green Lantern are planet busters now?Superman, whose damage output is stated to be around mountain level at the moment.
Ultraman, who pushed the Moon around so far and that's it.
Green Lantern, who gets his shield broken by everything and everyone.Man, the fanboyism on this board...
Darkseid loses. Period. Don't try to turn him into something he is not, just because you like DC comics.
What does this team present that ultimately defeats Darkseid?
Originally posted by Enzeru
So Superman, Ultraman and Green Lantern are planet busters now?Superman, whose damage output is stated to be around mountain level at the moment.
Ultraman, who pushed the Moon around so far and that's it.
Green Lantern, who gets his shield broken by everything and everyone.Man, the fanboyism on this board...
Darkseid loses. Period. Don't try to turn him into something he is not, just because you like DC comics.
What is it what you think?
1.- Superman can bench a planet for five days and he is more dense than rock, therefore he should be able to destroy what he benches
OR
2.- Superman is less dense than rock, that he can bench a planet for five days, but he can only destroy a mountain
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
What does this team present that ultimately defeats Darkseid?
I can ask you the same thing with Darkseid being the one in question.
I just think that the team at their best can take the New Darkseids best.
Can New Darkseid beat the team at their lowest? Yeah, he would beat them, if they don't have an answer to his Omega Effect, but in the past high heralds were able to resist those blasts more than once - and there was not always a Source-related connection needed.
Can New Darkseid beat the team at their most average? It would be a good fight and could go either way... but when fighting at their best?
Thor, Hyperion and Hulk have a lot to offer and I don't see Darkseid getting past all that.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
What is it what you think?1.- Superman can bench a planet for five days and he is more dense than rock, therefore he should be able to destroy what he benches
OR
2.- Superman is less dense than rock, that he can bench a planet for five days, but he can only destroy a mountain
I think that strength and striking power are two totally different things, therefore I always make the argument, that a bodybuilder / strongman is stronger than a karate master, but both won't be able to hit through solid stone, while the karate master probably will be able to do it due to his experience and training.
With that one ridiculous feat, which should actually be very questionable, since it totally falls out of place for the New Superman, since he wasn't able to replicate that feat in actual fight situations ... but he did it, so he has that strength on his side, but MULTIPLE scenes in the comics have stated his damage output and they were always talking about planet level.
Would Superman be able to bullrush through the planet and destroy it that way? It wouldn't make sense from a logical perspective in the first place, but if a writer decided to go with it he could make Superman do it, but Superman has done NOTHING that indicates that he has the experience and training to cause a lot of damage with his strikes. Everything he has done was on a mountainy scale.
You're basically making things up: "Just because he can do this, he must be able to do that."
It's bullshit.
But then again - do us both a favour and don't respond to me. Everything I've written now is my point of view. It's my opinion and in the end of the day I'm just like all of you guys... Well, I'm smarter and more handsome, but I'm also just one random guy from the internet with the opinion, that is always the best and a take on things that is never wrong...
How could anyone ever convince me otherwise?
How could anyone ever convince you otherwise?
Being a stupid **** lies in the human nature.
Good day, sires.
PS: Darkseid loses hard, when everything is fighting at their best.
Originally posted by EnzeruWait, what? You can't factor in Darkseid's showings from before Flashpoint because we're talking about NU52 Darkseid. Thus the showings of people resisting his Omega Effect doesn't translate to NU52 Darkseid.
I can ask you the same thing with Darkseid being the one in question.
I just think that the team at their best can take the New Darkseids best.Can New Darkseid beat the team at their lowest? Yeah, he would beat them, if they don't have an answer to his Omega Effect, but in the past high heralds were able to resist those blasts more than once - and there was not always a Source-related connection needed.
Can New Darkseid beat the team at their most average? It would be a good fight and could go either way... but when fighting at their best?
Thor, Hyperion and Hulk have a lot to offer and I don't see Darkseid getting past all that.PS: Darkseid loses hard, when everything is fighting at their best.
Originally posted by SquallX
Even off panel. Seeing what Ultraman is capable off, and always bloodslusted means he was fighting Darkseid at his best.
Did Darkseid bring his Parademons and other offensive creatures like he did before against the JLA and the Earth 2 squad? I'm pretty sure you don't have a yes or no answer for this? Did he prep? Did he use some type of weapon against Ultraman and his crew? You really don't know. It took place off panel.
Originally posted by deathslash
Wait, what? You can't factor in Darkseid's showings from before Flashpoint because we're talking about NU52 Darkseid. Thus the showings of people resisting his Omega Effect doesn't translate to NU52 Darkseid.
Or, another way of seeing it:
Pre FP, heralds were able to resist the OE.
Now, those same heralds were manhandled by DS.
Conclusion? DS is now more powerful than ever.
