Originally posted by Delta1938
This amongst other stuff you've said(in this thread and others)? I've come to the conclusion that you're so mad, arrogant and egotistical on the Internet, while trying to act smooth and suave and you're better than us all while consistently proving you're not, is because it's your way of feeling better about having a very small penis. That's the only way that it makes sense. That, or you're on medication that you've been failing to take.
Originally posted by Delta1938
What you just said shows you know little to nothing about fighting, or how exactly it is Martial Artists break concrete blocks and why that doesn't really translate into your argument.
Strength =/ Striking Power
One doesn't have to be a genius to realize that. Bruce Lee is the most well known martial artist ever and he was by no means a huge man, yet reports from other people stated that he hit them harder than anyone has ever hit them before.
Experience and training determine how strong you punch and not how your overall physical stregnth is.
Trying to make the argument that Superman can destroy planets with punches, just because he can benchpress planets is stupid, because 1. there is no scientific proof for direct strength transmitting into direct striking power 2. and in comic books his damage has been stated over and over and over again that it can crush mountains and nothing more.
Oh and you've provided no input whatsoever, rather than just posting something and state your opinion on it, which differs to mine and that's it. No explanation, no different take on it, no nothing. Just your opinion, which in the end of the day doesn't matter anything.
Originally posted by Delta1938
This amongst other stuff you've said(in this thread and others)? I've come to the conclusion that you're so mad, arrogant and egotistical on the Internet, while trying to act smooth and suave and you're better than us all while consistently proving you're not, is because it's your way of feeling better about having a very small penis. That's the only way that it makes sense. That, or you're on medication that you've been failing to take.
I call people, who act stupid on the internet ... well stupid and you're saying that I have a small penis, or that I'm not using my medicine.
Who could blame me for calling you stupid, when you act like that?
Originally posted by Enzeru
Bruce Lee is the most well known martial artist ever and he was by no means a huge man, yet reports from other people stated that he hit them harder than anyone has ever hit them before.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Strength =/ Striking PowerOne doesn't have to be a genius to realize that. Bruce Lee is the most well known martial artist ever and he was by no means a huge man, yet reports from other people stated that he hit them harder than anyone has ever hit them before.
Experience and training determine how strong you punch and not how your overall physical stregnth is.
Trying to make the argument that Superman can destroy planets with punches, just because he can benchpress planets is stupid, because 1. there is no scientific proof for direct strength transmitting into direct striking power 2. and in comic books his damage has been stated over and over and over again that it can crush mountains and nothing more.
Oh and you've provided no input whatsoever, rather than just posting something and state your opinion on it, which differs to mine and that's it. No explanation, no different take on it, no nothing. Just your opinion, which in the end of the day doesn't matter anything.
I know how what you're arguing actually works. Your initial response told me you don't really know what you're talking about, and your reply confirmed it. Martial Artists breaking concrete blocks doesn't apply to fights. It also seems you failed to grasp what I was actually pointing-out.
Originally posted by Enzeru
I call people, who act stupid on the internet ... well stupid and you're saying that I have a small penis, or that I'm not using my medicine.Who could blame me for calling you stupid, when you act like that?
Dunning-Kruger Effect sums it all up for you.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Mike Tyson was kinda a much bigger man than Bruce Lee, don't you think :-7HEY EVERYONE, LET'S ASK DANA WHITE TO MAKE "CAIN VELASQUEZ VS GEORGE ST-PIERRE" HAPPEN!
Originally posted by Epicurus
So you admit then that size does matter? Also, another fun fact: boxers hit considerably harder than martial artists even at similar weight classes.
Mike Tyson's and Bruce Lee's situation can't be compared to Superman.
If Mike Tyson was Superman and Bruce Lee his smaller super son, then yes, Superman would win, due to having the physical advantage.
Boxers hit harder than martial artist, because they're trained to hit hard, while mixed martial artists are much more versatile and concentrate on speed and other stuff to provent takedowns, land quick submissions and so on.
Junior Dos Santos (heavyweight) is one of the best boxers in mixed martial arts and he hits like a truck. It's partially genetics, talent and training in boxing, since he had amateur and professional boxing fights before.
Cain Velasquez (heavyweight) will tear George St-Pierre (lightweight) apart, because it's a fight between a man and a boy.
Mike Tyson (heavyweight) will tear Bruce Lee apart, because once again, it's a fight between a man and a boy.
They're all trained fighters - can you say the same for Superman? Can you say that Superman has experience in striking? No, he doesn't and his kryptonian Kung Fu isn't helping either.
My point was that a bodybuilder may have the strength, but he lacks the proper experience to destroy a brick, while a karate master will be able to do just that, simply because he trained to do so.
I can get behind that Superman can benchpress the Earth (even though it's still stupid), but his damage output is not near a planet buster. He is a mountain buster as stated many, many, many, many, many times in the new DC comics.
Thor on the other hand may not have Earth benchpressing strength feats, but he has recently cracked planets during his fight with Gorr and Thor is someone with thousands of years of fighting / striking experience.
What is your point in all that?
Why would a brick destroy a bodybuilder? Are you saying if the brick has training and the bodybuilder doesn't? I don't get the comparison.
Also, I'll LOL at your Tyson would destroy Bruce Lee thing... I totally disagree with your reasoning and with how sure you are with the results. Sure he could beat Bruce lee but it's anything but a given. I assure you I've watched more MMA than you, and there is one thing that it's taught me, mixed training will be one dimensial more times than not. Bruce Lee wasn't just a KF guy... he cross trained in many disciplines. Shit.. he even had submissions in his movies.. he did an armbar in one and a version of a triangle in another. Tyson winning that fight is anything but sure.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Also, I'll LOL at your Tyson would destroy Bruce Lee thing... I totally disagree with your reasoning and with how sure you are with the results. Sure he could beat Bruce lee but it's anything but a given. I assure you I've watched more MMA than you, and there is one thing that it's taught me, mixed training will be one dimensial more times than not. Bruce Lee wasn't just a KF guy... he cross trained in many disciplines. Shit.. he even had submissions in his movies.. he did an armbar in one and a version of a triangle in another. Tyson winning that fight is anything but sure.
He was NOT just an actor.. where do you get that info from GK? He was a trained MIXED Martial Artists. Your'e usually spot on about things GK but here you're totally wrong. Bruce Lee died LONG before Tyson even was a blimp on the radar.. let alone before he won the HW championship of the world. So he certainly didn't ever say Tyson would beat him.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He was NOT just an actor.. where do you get that info from GK? He was a trained MIXED Martial Artists. Your'e usually spot on about things GK but here you're totally wrong. Bruce Lee died LONG before Tyson even was a blimp on the radar.. let alone before he won the HW championship of the world. So he certainly didn't ever say Tyson would beat him.
Originally posted by SquallXYes, I did.
Did you ever read Final Crisis?Morrison made it bluntly clear that Darkseid true form was never seen until he showed up in final crisis. All of his appearances were nothing but Avatars of himself.
We saw him attach himself to a man in that story. This is one writers take on this not dc. There weren't specific retcons taking place. Quit picking and choosing.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He was NOT just an actor.. where do you get that info from GK? He was a trained MIXED Martial Artists. Your'e usually spot on about things GK but here you're totally wrong. Bruce Lee died LONG before Tyson even was a blimp on the radar.. let alone before he won the HW championship of the world. So he certainly didn't ever say Tyson would beat him.
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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why would a brick destroy a bodybuilder? Are you saying if the brick has training and the bodybuilder doesn't? I don't get the comparison.
You didn't quite understand what my point was.
What Superman fanboys on this board (and basically everywhere else, but mainly on this board) say is that because Superman is capable of benchpressing the Earth that he can also easily destroy it, while I'm saying that that's not the case.
Superman is strong, yes - but he clearly lacks fighting experience, which is needed for better striking.
A bodybuilder / strongman will be able to lift more weight than a Kung Fu expert, but they won't be able to break a layer of bricks, while the master will.
At that point it has nothing to do with strength. The bodybuilder and the strongman will break their own hand by trying to destroy the layer of bricks, but the Kung Fu master has trained years for that and he knows the proper technique to destroy it.
Superman can have the natural strength to benchpress the planet, but so far his damage output is at mountain busting levels, if he is not sundipped. He himself stated it, so has the narration during other instances and the collataral damage of his damage output supports that even further.
It's logic and comic book statements, which state that he lacks the experience and striking power to pull off more.
Superman = Bodybuilder / Strongman
Thor = Kung Fu master
Thor never benchpressed the Earth for days, but he has been shattering planets with his Mjolnir strikes and so has Beta Ray Bill, who is Thor's equal. They're both experienced fighters, who have trained a long time to inflict a lot of damage with their attacks.
It's plain and simple logic and I really don't get why people feel the need to argue with me on this. Logic is stating it, supporting my take on it and even the comics provide more than enough context for it to be true.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Also, I'll LOL at your Tyson would destroy Bruce Lee thing... I totally disagree with your reasoning and with how sure you are with the results. Sure he could beat Bruce lee but it's anything but a given. I assure you I've watched more MMA than you, and there is one thing that it's taught me, mixed training will be one dimensial more times than not.
Just real quick something about the last statement you made ... that you've watched more MMA than me :-7 Recently Raj told me that he read more Marvel comics than me.
Do you people actually know who I am and have insider information on me, or are you always telling other people what you have done more and better than them?
I for example don't do such a thing. I wouldn't even tell a person, who I just met for the first time that I'm smarter than he / she is. I would have to check that person out and then be able to decide if I'm superior in any way or not ... so no, since you basically don't know me at all, you also can't tell if you've watched more MMA than I have and by establishing that, you should take my opinion on MMA related stuff into consideration, since the chance is there that I know more about it than you do.
George St-Pierre is considered to be one of the best fighters on the planet. He has a great win / loss record, had to defeat a lot of great competition and he's done that in devastating fashion every now and then ...
... but he was never too happy about the idea to fight Anderson Silva, who has a similar status, even though I prefer GSP over Silva due to him facing the better and tougher competition throughout the years.
Why should GSP fight Anderson Silva, who is simply a bigger man? The fact is that both men know how to fight and physical advantage would come very in handy in such a fight and the same applies for Mike Tyson and Bruce Lee.
Mike Tyson is the bigger man and therefore he holds more power - he might be able to simply outlast and overpower Bruce Lee, but that still doesn't mean that he can break bricks with his fists, because he doesn't have the proper technique, while I could see Bruce Lee doing something like that, since that guy always looked like a genius to me.
And I'm by no means a Bruce Lee fan :-7 I prefer Jackie Chan.