DCNU Darkseid VS Thor, Hyperion, Captain Marvel, Hulk

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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
That discovery channel thing wasnproven full of fail. In all the actual videos of an actual fight. Tigers dominate, bigger, stronger, faster reflexes and combat speed, (lions run at 45 mph compared to Tigers 40). They single handedly take down bigger prey (the guar, largest bovine on earth) and are overall just superior to Lions. A grown Tiger would also kill a velociraptor quite easily.

Just saying.

Completely incorrect. Discovery channel filmed a show with cat experts who knows each animal well. Lion wins. Inhuman already covered the reasoning.

Discovery channel was proven wrong by FACTS and the ACTUAL fights caught on video. And there is even a site where those same cat experts admitted to bieng told what to say. Have to look it up. In almost every case the Tiger has completely and utterly dominated the Lion. But the Lion, has the strong number two spot. I dont see why you are arguing this as Thanos is much more akin to a Tiger as in he is not a pack animal. Anyway, both powerful animals. Back to the fight at hand. Could go either way I guess. This is a hard team to beat imo.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Discovery channel was proven wrong by FACTS and the ACTUAL fights caught on video. And there is even a site where those same cat experts admitted to bieng told what to say. Have to look it up. In almost every case the Tiger has completely and utterly dominated the Lion. But the Lion, has the strong number two spot. I dont see why you are arguing this as Thanos is much more akin to a Tiger as in he is not a pack animal. Anyway, both powerful animals. Back to the fight at hand. Could go either way I guess. This is a hard team to beat imo.
Back your case. Why would they force people to reach a conclusion ? It makes zero sense. Face the facts the lion wins. More fighting experience and mane protection.

A tiger on average would take a lion most likely.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A tiger on average would take a lion most likely.
Discovery channel disagrees.

This should end this (straight from a professionals mouth)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUhGuFDbL0E

Back to the topic at hand...team stomjps.

You asked for it. Well first I can simply have you watch the multitude of videos of the actual animals actually fighting which actually shows you the Lion actually losing. The sad part is , in half of them it is a smaller female Tiger, punking grown male lions. The few videos of a male Tiger vs. Male Lion was so one sided it wasnt even funny.

Tigers also fight to the death just as much as Lions but since Lions live in the savannah (something that eluded you apparently) they are easier to watch and study. The average male Tiger is 70-100 lbs heavier than your average male lion. They have a bite force that has been measured up to 300-400 psi more than a Lion.

Lions inherently standnon one paw and swipe where a Tiger willnstand on his back paws and swipe using both, along with higher strength of the Tiger allows this to be devastating.

Tigers in siberia also hunt and kill some brown bears.
Bengal tigersnjump in the water and hunt fu***** crocodiles, an animal that on a consistent basis steals foods from Lions.

Now I dont condone fighting of animals. I find it abhorrent. But when I was in Korea we saw a.few of these fights. We saw a lion vs. Dogs and we watched a tiger vs. Dogs. In both cases the cat won (obviously) but the Tiger didnit in half the time.

Both of these creatures are amazingly powerful animals.And in a one on one it all depends on the animal itself. In the wild even larger more powerful animals will back down to save themselves even the slightest injury. (Grizzlies backing down from wolverines, etc.)

And in ancient roman times, they used to pit Barbary Lions against I believe Bengal (could be wrong ) Tigers and the quote was that the Tigers "invariably" won. Can anyone prove this? Why no. But what I do know is that both of these cats can kill a raptor. Easily.

Now come watch Tony rage out on the sentry vs thanos thread.

Again, no facts just unsupported bias. Discovery channel did the show. Cat expert sided with the lions. End of story.

The facts are in the ****ing videos. Are you insane? That is more facts than what people can say. That literally makes no sense. I just gave you more "facts" than anything you came up with. The Actual Fights. Discovery channel animal face off also had a gorilla karate chopping a leapord and a rhinoceros just sit there while an elephant walked up and stabbed it. Those "fights" were nothing like an actual fight. And other cat experts disclaimed it.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
The facts are in the ****ing videos. Are you insane? That is more facts than what people can say. That literally makes no sense. I just gave you more "facts" than anything you came up with. The Actual Fights. Discovery channel animal face off also had a gorilla karate chopping a leapord and a rhinoceros just sit there while an elephant walked up and stabbed it. Those "fights" were nothing like an actual fight. And other cat experts disclaimed it.
You put up no videos. Again, I have an exerts opinion. You have random fanfic videos with nothing substantiating them.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
What are some of New 52 Darkseids top end feats? Is his jobbing days over? Because thats what I am hearing. If so I say he may take this.
You should go to the Darkseid respect thread if you want to know in depth details but I'll give you a brief summary of his feats.

In the Nu52 Darkseid has done the following things: he soloed the entire Justice league twice, oneshotted Superman with a single Omega beam (whilst the other beam split up to try and hit the flash), absolutely curbstomped Green Lantern, got stabbed in one of his eyes by Wonder woman's sword (it's magical and is so sharp that it can split atoms in half) and Aquaman's trident (also magical and super durable), still kept fighting and manhandling the League, had to be bfr by the league in order to lose to them, orchestrated a war between the Old Gods (and after killing them and stealing their power) and, destroyed the realm of the Old Gods. The most impressive things that Darkseid has under his belt is his Omega Beams and his kill record.

Darkseid's Omega Beams are so powerful that a single blast from them blew up an alternate reality earth, they're so fast that the Flash (Barry Allen) has to move at his fastest to avoid them (and even then, they were gaining on him and he had to use an entire group of Parademons to block the blast and he even got knocked to the ground simply from the force of the blast hitting the Parademons), and, a single beam (instead of the usual two) was enough to oneshot superman.

It's also been revealed that he's been travelling from reality to reality killing every alternate reality version of Superman that he can. He already has hundreds (if not thousands) of kills under his belt. It's also been shown that he can hold open these portals to the alternate realities using his own physical strength (if not energy manipulation).

yeah... so this is a Darkseid that go don't want to f#### with

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Darkseid has surmounted all of the abilities presented by Hyperion, Captain Marvel, Hulk and Thor sans Mjolnir. Mjolnir presents a unique obstacle but not one Darkseid couldn't triumph over.
He really hasn't. He basically fought against sharp stabbies, energy constructs, superstrength, superspeed and forced teleportation. And with varying degrees of success, mind you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Completely incorrect. Discovery channel filmed a show with cat experts who knows each animal well. Lion wins. Inhuman already covered the reasoning.
The same group of people said Rashad Evans could knee a skull in half with a normal grounded knee and GSP hits with IIRC 3000 plus PSI.

That whole team involved with those shows just make random shit up

If you guys won't be on topic, you'll be banned/have the thread closed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Get a load of this nerd. He actually believed I was a lion typing at a computer screen.

Also

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PHs-kbypo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DD_PHs-kbypo

Yeah, lion wins. Discovery channel. Boom.


Lol, referring that fail tv show which had a gorilla doing karate chops and a polar bear getting killed by a walrus...that's low even for you, quantran.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Completely incorrect. Discovery channel filmed a show with cat experts who knows each animal well. Lion wins. Inhuman already covered the reasoning.

If Dave Salmoni is a big cat expert, then I am the President of the United States.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Lions are better fighters than tigers.
That's all male lions do besides sleeping,fuqing,... they train to fight since they are cubs.
Their job is to fight other make lions. Either to defend their pride or take over another pride.
Their mane also protects them from neck death bites.
They are capable of defeating a tiger even though the tiger might be a bit bigger and a bit stronger.

Actual scientific data proves this age-old myth wrong. Kaziranga tigers have the highest mortality rates among the big cats in the wild. And the percentage of these mortality rates attributable to territorial fights or fights over mating rights is considerably higher than the percentage of lion deaths caused due to fighting between individual specimens. The mane offers little to no protection in actual documented fights between 2 captive specimens. If anything, it is a handicap seeing how the dark and thick fur of the mane can cause the lion to overheat. Out of the hundreds of eye-witness accounts of tiger/lion fights, majority of the times where the lion was killed was due to a neck bite. Tigers are also more heavily muscled than lions, whose greater bone density means a heavier skeleton which means greater usage of skeletal muscles simply to actuate their body.

You might want to stop talking about cats, I don't think pr was joking.

For now, I think the team wins.

Team wins.

Originally posted by Enzeru

I think that strength and striking power are two totally different things, therefore I always make the argument, that a bodybuilder / strongman is stronger than a karate master, but both won't be able to hit through solid stone, while the karate master probably will be able to do it due to his experience and training.

What you just said shows you know little to nothing about fighting, or how exactly it is Martial Artists break concrete blocks and why that doesn't really translate into your argument.

Originally posted by Enzeru
But then again - do us both a favour and don't respond to me. Everything I've written now is my point of view. It's my opinion and in the end of the day I'm just like all of you guys... Well, I'm smarter and more handsome, but I'm also just one random guy from the internet with the opinion, that is always the best and a take on things that is never wrong...
How could anyone ever convince me otherwise?
How could anyone ever convince you otherwise?
Being a stupid **** lies in the human nature.

This amongst other stuff you've said(in this thread and others)? I've come to the conclusion that you're so mad, arrogant and egotistical on the Internet, while trying to act smooth and suave and you're better than us all while consistently proving you're not, is because it's your way of feeling better about having a very small penis. That's the only way that it makes sense. That, or you're on medication that you've been failing to take.