Hyperions Vs Justice League

Started by Enzeru6 pages
Originally posted by Cogito
and writing off contradictory evidence.

Which would be?

We're going by the characters most current incarnations and on panel feats. On panel Superman hasn't done anything yet, that would justify him as a planet buster, which some Superman fanboys on KMC are trying to make him out to be.

And this is now not me attacking Superman fans, because the same can be said for many other characters...
Hulk and Thanos fanboys believe that they have actual super speed and can truly compete with speedsters.
Sentry fanboys believe that he is invincible and can beat Skyfathers, just because he can return from the dead.

And so on.

I'm not saying that Superman couldn't split the Earth in half - if a writer wants him to do just that he will do just that, but for now all Superman has done is "destroying mountains" with his punches.

And when it comes to this thread even the weakest version of Hyperion would be able to take that punishment for a while, while the other versions would laugh at it, therefore the Hyperions win.

Superman has shown himself to be above some "mountain range maximum" quite substantially, imo.

One bit of bad narration doesn't change that.

Originally posted by Cogito
I believe Superman hit with the stated amount of force. I don't believe that's the absolute limit, because it doesn't say that anywhere.

What, does Superman need to destroy the Earth to prove that he can? Ain't gonna happen, that's not his M.O. That's why they come up with artificial feats like the one being debated here, so that the writers can show what he's capable of without actually ruining his character. That's been the case since COIE, after shit like PC Superboy finding random empty planets in space and throwing them for funsies.

👆 True he can obviously destroy a planet but he has to be written into stories with some struggle and most writers decide to pigeon hole the character within parameters set for the story despite the actual character's abilities which they loosely follow for sake of their creative "freedom". Kal is essentially the definition of the hero and is the mascot of the which is the root of the comics genre as well so him destroying planets could cause collateral damage that could effect sentient life which is in conflict with the character's predisposition.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman has shown himself to be above some "mountain range maximum" quite substantially, imo.
One bit of bad narration doesn't change that.

Then be me guest and show me where Superman visibly outputs more damage.
Him lifting Earth's weight for 5 days is not in the slightest a proof for that - other than that feat there is not even one single feat for Superman, which puts him at a high herald level - as for now.

And I'm not even hating, just stating the truth, but hey, maybe you all know something that I don't know, so please prove me wrong for our all sake.

I want scans of Superman doing something more impressive than trading mountain level punches. I posted scans of 3-4 occasions, you all posted your opinion.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Then be me guest and show me where Superman visibly outputs more damage.
Him lifting Earth's weight for 5 days is not in the slightest a proof for that - other than that feat there is not even one single feat for Superman, which puts him at a high herald level - as for now.

And I'm not even hating, just stating the truth, but hey, maybe you all know something that I don't know, so please prove me wrong for our all sake.

I want scans of Superman doing something more impressive than trading mountain level punches. I posted scans of 3-4 occasions, you all posted your opinion.

First of all, the weight lifting is indicative of high level strength. I don't know why it wouldn't be.

His punching of H'el is above mountain level. Everything but the narration screams that, and even the narration isn't saying what people are saying it is.

If this was Hulk, or Thor, people wouldn't be doubting it in the slightest.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If this was Hulk, or Thor, people wouldn't be doubting it in the slightest.

😂

We both know that this isn't true.

Yes, Superman can easily press earth-weight for 5 consecutive days without pause, and without any sunlight to recharge him... Yet "mountain toppling" punches represent his absolute maximum output. ElOhEl.

Well in that case, not only were punches from H/P Doomsday only capable of "disintegrating a tank", but apparently no one before DD had ever punched Superman with tank-busting punches:
http://imgur.com/hyzVHCS
http://imgur.com/8XLQ95x
And given that we evidently must take retarded narrative at face value, in lieu of other contradictory evidence: mountain-busting>>>tank-busting. Thus, DCnU Supes>>>H/P Doomsday! dur

Oh, and the force of 12 hurricanes is enough to rock Doomsday as well!
http://i.imgur.com/63tF4uF.jpg
durx2

Thor = Hunter Prey Doomsday. 100% canon.

While I think his argument is flawed he has a point in that there is a double standard in how claims regarding the Sentry are taken in comparison to someone like Superman in this particular discussion. Batman saying Superman could punch a moon into dust is no more valid then Sentry/Genis unleashing power capable of atomizing planets or whatever. So I can understand why he'd be frustrated.

The planet lifting feat is cool however and should be valid. No need to pretend it doesn't count as it's pretty clear that Superman isn't on that power level even under the same writer consistently, much less under others. It's just a high end feat, treat it as such.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂

We both know that this isn't true.

Of course it is, though among some forum members YYMV, obviously.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Of course it is, though among some forum members YYMV, obviously.

Really? We have h1 in a thread below this one arguing what he is. And do you remember when the Gorr vs. Thor comic came out? People were flat out denying the narration.

What does YYMV stand for?

Originally posted by Enzeru
Which would be?

We're going by the characters most current incarnations and on panel feats. On panel Superman hasn't done anything yet, that would justify him as a planet buster, which some Superman fanboys on KMC are trying to make him out to be.

And this is now not me attacking Superman fans, because the same can be said for many other characters...
Hulk and Thanos fanboys believe that they have actual super speed and can truly compete with speedsters.

Yes, Superman could definitely not hurt planet busters:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/11darkseid.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/17darkseid.jpg

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/18darkseid.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/19darkseid.jpg

Thanos can't react to someone with superspeed:
http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o783/dbzrk/FalllenOne1_zpsf0c5b11d.jpg

Hulk doesn't have superspeed:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12010.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12011.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12013.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Really? We have h1 in a thread below this one arguing what he is. And do you remember when the Gorr vs. Thor comic came out? People were flat out denying the narration.

What does YYMV stand for?

H1 doesn't count. uhuh

That, I honestly missed. I thought you said Bor for a moment, so I was confused.

Your mileage may vary.

Originally posted by -Pr-
H1 doesn't count. uhuh

That, I honestly missed. I thought you said Bor for a moment, so I was confused.

Your mileage may vary.

He's a Superman fan so he's your responsibility. uhuh

Here, enjoy the free lulz as it goes on for a few pages:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=580358&pagenumber=12

We get everything from the narration lying, to Gorr being a pussy and so on to try and demean the feat.

Originally posted by -Pr-
First of all, the weight lifting is indicative of high level strength. I don't know why it wouldn't be.

I've explained in multiple threads why a high level of strength doesn't immediately mean a high level of striking power.

High level of strength = Physical attributes mainly
High level of striking power = experience and training

Originally posted by -Pr-
His punching of H'el is above mountain level. Everything but the narration screams that, and even the narration isn't saying what people are saying it is.

Uhm, no.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/101942/3268378-1.jpg

The narration states that he is delivering blows, which could topple mountains.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If this was Hulk, or Thor, people wouldn't be doubting it in the slightest.

Pre Gorr fight I wouldn't have argued that Thor would be able to come up with an insane striking power. Not even by putting him at the same level as Beta Ray Bill, who destroyed planets with his striking.

But during his fight with Gorr, Thor has cracked planets, which indicates an insane level of striking power, when he lets loose.

Superman was not holding back and his strikes were stated to be around mountain level, like it or not.

Now your logic would tell us, since Thor has been able to crack planets, he should be at least as strong as New 52 Superman, who was benchpressing the Earth's weight, but my logic tells us that Thor is an experienced warrior, who had centuries to learn how to strike properly and therefore he can inflict more damage than Superman.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes, Superman can easily press earth-weight for 5 consecutive days without pause, and without any sunlight to recharge him... Yet "mountain toppling" punches represent his absolute maximum output. ElOhEl.

Strength =/ Striking Power
Real life experience - you should consider it.

I know that it's different for comics, but when the new DC 52 comics actually support your take on it, feel free to prove me otherwise - for now you don't know what you're talking about.

The rest of your post is utter nonsense. You're either not paying attention at the narration or you are as long as it suits your needs - but that's not only your mistake but the one of nearly everyone on this board.

I've already spent too much time in this thread. I requested legit proof that Superman can dish out more damage than I've proven that he is capable off and every single one of you failed.

I'm not willing to listen to an argument, which sounds like this: "Well, it's clear that Superman can do more damage, but he always holds back!"

Every comic book character always holds back. Show me what he has done, when he is not holding back and I'll go with it. You didn't show me and you won't be able to do it, because new 52 Superman hasn't done more than delivering blows, which could topple mountains.

The Hyperions stomp, since they either have more damage output or more durability. It's that simple.

Have a nice day, brotatoes.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes, Superman could definitely not hurt planet busters:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/11darkseid.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/17darkseid.jpg

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/18darkseid.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/19darkseid.jpg

The only possible conclusion here is that Darkseid's durability is less than a mountain's. 👆

Well, Darkseid was hurt by Wonder Woman's sword and Aquaman's trident so obviously he has pathetic durability and Sentry, I mean Hyperion, would tear him in half.

mmm

TRUHF!!!

(g007-psyduck)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, Darkseid was hurt by Wonder Woman's sword and Aquaman's trident so obviously he has pathetic durability and Sentry, I mean Hyperion, would tear him in half.
Slice slices > anything else in comics.

It's why Corvus can slice up a double universe Hyperion

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Slice slices > anything else in comics.

It's why Corvus can slice up a double universe Hyperion


Corvus' atom-slicing trident>>>>Aquaman's fish-slicing trident though.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Slice slices > anything else in comics.

It's why Corvus can slice up a double universe Hyperion

He was actually just holding balloons, rhetarrd.