What if Doom was a Batman villain, would Batman stop him???

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
I still call bullsh|t on Mr Terrific being 8th smartest and the bat being 2nd

Well, Batman is the 2nd smartest person mentioned in the OP. 😈

Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, Batman is the 2nd smartest person mentioned in the OP. 😈

Yeah I read one Mr T comic and his tech was leaps and bounds ahead of the bats

His villains were of a better ilk as well

Originally posted by panthergod
Darkseid outwitted Galactus as well.

Batman outwitted Darkseid on multiple occasions.

Rock of Ages, Final Crisis, Superman/Batman : Supergirl arc.

Doom's Ego will absolutely be his downfall. it's his greatest
psychological weakness, and Batman will ruthlessly exploit it.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Oh and by the way does Doom still have control of the earth and does he still have all this cosmic power?

Originally posted by juggernaut74

Why are you quoting someone that's trying to use non-canon stories as evidence?

Darkseid outwitted Galactus? Hahaha. Almost as ridiculous as claiming Darkseid came out looking more powerful then Galactus.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Darkseid outwitted Galactus? Hahaha. Almost as ridiculous as claiming Darkseid came out looking more powerful then Galactus.

Jellyrobes....I mean panthergod has a well known aversion to the truth.

Aye..Sorry I too so long. Busy with college. Anyways back to business.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So has Thor. Doesn't mean much when he's been surprised.

Yeah...T'Challa sure didn't defeat Doom in prep fair and square...(Sarcasm).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then you don't know much about OMACs. gO LEARN ABOUT THEM.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Here it is.

http://imgur.com/QtdUMer
http://imgur.com/AiyPdP9

That's Hourman with Worloggog being infected with the same virus.

His statement isn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Odd.

http://imgur.com/TPoZ2eF

Here you go.

Thanks but Hourman is not omnipotent.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Joker outsmarted Mr. Mxy too. Its just his MO.

Originally posted by abhilegend
On earth. And obviously marvel>>dc, right? But as you stated Doom wasn't able to beat Mephisto with decades of prep, so those scientists must be smarter than Doom too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What does that have to do with anything? Luke Cage smacked around Doom in his country like he owned him money. Pun intended.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, you're going around using ABC logic in the first place and now you're complaining?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are wakandan scientists who are dumber than Panther smarter than doom because they beat mephisto while doom couldn't?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I just used your own logic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If I started the list of people who Batman has gone against above his tier, Panther would be left in dust. There is a reason he is called Batgod.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. Read Batman: Return of Bruce Wayne and come back.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, you showed how stupid that logic is. Being trained from birth has no weight here. Batman has done more strategies and more successfully than Panther can ever dream about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

Superman isn't smarter than Batman. I know more about superman than Jake knows about Thor and Superman combined. Its not about beating superman which he has never done, its about outsmarting him which Batman has done many times.

Prove that Batman is smarter than Superman in overall intelligence. Your feats for Superman prep times deflates your own argument for Batman being smarter. Batman never really outsmarts him he beats Superman because again Superman has a CLEAR DEFINED WEAKNESS! Superman is smarter than Batman in RAW INTELLIGENCE. Superman he can think and learn at an accelerated speed for freaking crying out loud. Batman just has a more tactical and cunning mind though.

Here Superman is compared to a Supercomputer.

Yeah show me Batman on that level of intelligence. I'll wait.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman isn't smarter than Batman.

Nope, that's totally wrong.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman had no instructions how to built it. All he had was that he looked at miracle machine for some seconds and then rebuilt it.

It was all done by himself. No reader's manual.

Not only do you not know what blueprints are, but you do not really read the scans you post. Your scan deflates your whole argument. But to blueprints...

A blueprint GIVES INSTRUCTION on how to build things and the blueprints were in Supermans mind. It would have been more impressive if he built it WITHOUT instructions. I don't see how T'Challa, Reed, the Illuminati and especially Doom wouldn't replicate this feat.

But here is what Superman says in the scan:
"Brainiac 5 ALLOWED me to look at the miracle machine for no more than a few seconds. I tried to memorize every nut and bolt and circuit."

Keyword:
Memorize...Superman MEMORIZED the instructions Brainic 5 GAVE him. Not really showing his intelligence feat but more of a memory feat. Again the people I listed could easily replicate this.

Anyways the Miracle Machine feat to me is no different than the Ultimate Nullifier feat with Reed Richard. IIRC the UF is multiversal too.

Superman is such a well thought out and exciting character

*sarcasm*

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This isn't really much of a contest. Batman as he appears in 90% of comics, particularly his own, is not even in the same league as Doom. In the Justice League he takes the place of the team genius (Unless Atom/Terrific/Steel are around) and has some amazing tech feats but compared to Doom's best? Thrown in the advanced magic and this thread is pretty much spite imo. You'd have to look at Doom's worst and Batman's best to have him win.

Doom is the kind of villain that the JLA would work together to overcome.

I'd take Ray Palmer (who is Pym level, IMO) over Batman any day of the week. Ray Palmer has some of the most uber science feats in comics.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
Aye..Sorry I too so long. Busy with college. Anyways back to business.

Get over it...T'Challa defeated Doom with prep and thats a fact. Not only that but he also made himself of magic so Dooms own magic wouldn't hurt him. Not even the most powerful wizards of Wakanda couldnt kill him.
http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/KingMichael777/media/Comics/1032378-img_019_super_zps866d7a8e.jpg.html
http://s1050.photobucket.com/user/KingMichael777/media/Comics/1032377-img_024_super_zps8823fb73.jpg.html

Yeah...T'Challa sure didn't defeat Doom in prep fair and square...(Sarcasm).

I know enough about them.

Your scans do not answer my request. Where in your scans does it state Hourman is omnipotent? Matter fact there is no sources that even state he is omnipotent level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hourman

Thanks but Hourman is not omnipotent.

Which is pure PIS. Considering Mxy is an abstract level and Joker is not even the smartest on DC Earth.

Again stop putting words in my mouth and using ABC logic. You're having an habit of keep doing it. No Marvel does not>DC. Batman does not>Doom, T'Challa and Reed when it comes to overall intelligence and prep. Punisher defeated Wolverine easily while Hulk Red Hulk had trouble with him. Does Punisher>>>Red Hulk?

No...That was CLASSIC DOOM repeat CLASSIC DOOM from the 70s who wasn't even on the same level that he is now. Thats like saying current Thanos would get arrested by the NYPD because he did in his classic days. Both instances being pure PIS.

No you were using ABC logic first and so I decided to join in to show you how flawed your arguments are.

Again useless ABC logic.

No you didn't you just keep making your argument worst.

Yeah he's called Batgod by fanboys who over wank him. The people who Batman has gone up against above him he had help. Darkseid? Already went over that, the first instances he rigged Darkseids planet to blow, not really defeating him. And the second he was actually killed. JLA? Pure fanboyism dream. Superman? Clear defined weakness that almost anyone can exploit.

Again Batman never actually defeated him.

Again PROVE IT. Aquaman and Namor were NOT trained since birth like T'Challa. Has Batman ever lead a advanced nation army against an alien invasion and slaughtered that alien invasion? No.

Prove that Batman is smarter than Superman in overall intelligence. Your feats for Superman prep times deflates your own argument for Batman being smarter. Batman never really outsmarts him he beats Superman because again Superman has a CLEAR DEFINED WEAKNESS! Superman is smarter than Batman in RAW INTELLIGENCE. Superman he can think and learn at an accelerated speed for freaking crying out loud. Batman just has a more tactical and cunning mind though.

Here Superman is compared to a Supercomputer.

Yeah show me Batman on that level of intelligence. I'll wait.

Originally posted by Stranglehold300
I already backed up my point with Superman being smarter than bats in RAW intelligence. Unless you're trying to say Batman who is human has a supercomputer brain? Which would be pure fan wanking.

Not only do you not know what blueprints are, but you do not really read the scans you post. Your scan deflates your whole argument. But to blueprints...

A blueprint GIVES INSTRUCTION on how to build things and the blueprints were in Supermans mind. It would have been more impressive if he built it WITHOUT instructions. I don't see how T'Challa, Reed, the Illuminati and especially Doom wouldn't replicate this feat.

But here is what Superman says in the scan:
"Brainiac 5 [B]ALLOWED me to look at the miracle machine for no more than a few seconds. I tried to memorize every nut and bolt and circuit."

Keyword:
Memorize...Superman MEMORIZED the instructions Brainic 5 GAVE him. Not really showing his intelligence feat but more of a memory feat. Again the people I listed could easily replicate this.

Anyways the Miracle Machine feat to me is no different than the Ultimate Nullifier feat with Reed Richard. IIRC the UF is multiversal too. [/B]

Doom loses just like so many other would be conquerors that Bruce has beaten

'nuff said, end thread

Doom is just superior, the sooner we can all accept it, the sooner we can all move forward.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Doom loses just like so many other would be conquerors that Bruce has beaten

'nuff said, end thread

Such as?

May as well say Doom beats Batman like so many other costumed heroes he's beaten (which would be more accurate).

I don't want this thread to end until abhilegend proves to me that Batman has more raw intelligence than Superman.

Tbf, this thread was over the second it was posted.

Superman is smarter than Batman. Batman is more crafty, but Superman is SCIENTIFICALLY smarter in that area.

Batman doesn't impress me in that area. In fact, he wouldn't make it in the top 10-15 in super geniuses in DC. I'd rank:
Niles Caulder
Ray Palmer
Professor I.Q.
Lex Luthor
Mr. Terrific
TO Morrow
Will Magnus
Captain Comet
Ultra Humanite
Prometheus
Dr. Sivanaa
ALL ahead of Batman.

And that's not including the many alien geniuses like the Brainiac's, Metron, Saradath, etc...

Yeah, closing this as it's become pointless.

Doctor Doom wouldn't be a Batman villain without being drastically altered, to the point that he would be Doom in name only.

FFS Carter...