Originally posted by Golgo13
Recently, Constantine (With prep) captured the Trinity of Sin and in the last issue almost defeated a being of ALL the evil in the universe. That was just recently.Vertigo Constantine was able to outsmart God himself among other extremely powerful beings with prep.
Constantine also has the means to acquire powerful objects and magic.
Originally posted by Golgo13
He's certainly going to surpass him at the rate he's going. Plus, he's also a master manipulator.
You realize how silly that sounds? It's not like Doom's not going to keep getting ridiculous prep feats on top of the dozens he already has from decades worth of canonical material.
Doom's been manipulating people for decades and is pretty goddamn good at it.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You realize how silly that sounds? It's not like Doom's not going to keep getting ridiculous prep feats on top of the dozens he already has.Doom's been manipulating people for decades and is pretty goddamn good at it.
DCnU Constantine has had better MAGIC based prep feats recently. Which ones of Doom's can match them?
Originally posted by Golgo13
DCnU Constantine has had better MAGIC based prep feats recently. Which ones of Doom's can match them?
Stealing Scarlet Witch's power with magic that was said to be more powerful than both her's and Doctor Strange's (who was Sorcerer Supreme at the time).
And Doom uses both science and magic in tandem for his prep feats.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Stealing Scarlet Witch's power with magic that was said to be more powerful than both her's and Doctor Strange's (who was Sorcerer Supreme at the time).And Doom uses both science and magic in tandem for his prep feats.
Doom is better at tech, no doubt, but in a prep battle, I think Constnatine (Vertigo) is overall a better manipulator.
Constantine holding the TOS (short, but still) is better than most of Doom's. And harming a being (Twice) that is the embodiment of Evil in ALL the universe is also insane.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Doom is better at tech, no doubt, but in a prep battle, I think Constnatine (Vertigo) is overall a better manipulator.Constantine holding the TOS (short, but still) is better than most of Doom's. And harming a being (Twice) that is the embodiment of Evil in ALL the universe is also insane.
Doom uses and has used technology and magic from his earliest days in comics up to the current day. It's an integral part of his character. And Doom's only gotten better and more powerful over the years.
"Better than most of Doom's"? You do realize the kind of stuff Doom has done, right?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThen why don't Doom run the MU?
You realize how silly that sounds? It's not like Doom's not going to keep getting ridiculous prep feats on top of the dozens he already has from decades worth of canonical material.Doom's been manipulating people for decades and is pretty goddamn good at it.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Doom uses and has used technology and magic from his earliest days in comics up to the current day. It's an integral part of his character. And Doom's only gotten better and more powerful over the years."Better than most of Doom's"? You do realize the kind of stuff Doom has done, right?
👆 I have no problem of Doom beating Constantine, but I don't give him a strong majority over someone who is as slick and magic knowledgeable as Constantine. In terms of manipulation, both Doom and John are at the top of the food chain.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Without PIS, Batman would require the League or other assistance from the hero community to beat Doom. That or he'd have to somehow get Doom's sense of honor and personal code to prevent him from killing him (as petty murder is beneath Doom). And yes, T'Challa is both smarter than Bruce and has exponentially more resources at his disposal.