Zeus vs superman prime

Originally posted by carver9
You baited me. Dont act like your initial post wasn't there to get a response from me. Stop trolling men and find you a internet woman to troll. This is my last post in this thread in response to anything concerning Hulk or baiting. As for the thread, Zeus stomps.

Care to prove how Zeus STOMPS eh troll

Stop talking to me.

Originally posted by wolverinos
come on carver thats the lowest level of debating.
i think being years on kmc boards should have at least tought you that.
instead of countering or providing evidence to your statement you go for the "be cinical" tactic? you are not even good at it man.
again... zeus is all about magic, prime is imune to magic.
zeus physically without his magic doesnt have any feats at all, getting knocked down by hercules.
getting knocked down by she hulk and thing?
as far as fighting skills zeus when losing his powers got tooled and humiliated by kingpin.
he got no skills, his strength is not only a joke but offence to someone like prime, and without his magic he is just a useless bearded guy.
i know zeus fisting hulk made you kind of biased, but arguing for zeus in such a situation is something impossible.

The whole skill thing is a lie though. So is him not being able to effect Prime even if he was full on magic considering Zauriel's fist caused damage to Prime. It's just active magic that doesn't "effect" Prime. Not just people powered by magic.

Sounds like you're the one who's biased.

Though low showings is funny considering Prime's low showings.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Scan that states Zeus is all magic?
Hercules grappled him from behind, and then was dazed for the rest of the comic after Zeus beat the shit out of him with a missed blast, a throw, and one punch.
He got knocked down by She Hulk, Namor, and Thor after Black Knight absorbed his blast and fired it back at Zeus. And then he knocked everyone out directly after getting "knocked down".
I'm pretty sure Zeus has never appeared in a comic with Kingpin.

Sounds like you're the one who's biased.

Though low showings is funny considering Prime's low showings.

👆

Originally posted by wolverinos
it can be interpreted in different ways.
it doesnt make any sense that a time on monthes will be an instant for thor and zeus.
whats an instant? what did the writer mean by stating that? was it mentioned that literally time passed by differently with them? or did that statement was there to portray that the battle was on a whole different pace? was it stated their battle affected the time barrier or anything? i think that statement had a more philosophical value than anything else.
i think that statement was not to be taken literally because it doesnt make sense they will fight for a moment white it was actually monthes passing by, what i do believe that statement meant was to portray a situation of a very fast pace battle , and the fact they didnt tire after all that time and they were fighting fresh like the fight just began and it took an instant.

Yes, it was mentioned quite literally that time was passing differently for Thor and Zeus. It is explicitly stated that time slows to a crawl around Zeus and Thor so while months pass for the warriors beneath them, only an instant passes for the two gods on top of Mount Ida.

If it were just that one statement, it might be arguable that it's ambiguous (not a very strong argument mind you).

But it isn't just that one statement. After the fight, Thor is directly asked about his battle taking "many months". He explicitly refutes the suggestion: "for you, mayhap [months have passed]... not for me."

So the explicit statements we have within the pretty short fight scene:
1) "time itself" explicitly begins to "tread at varying pace" around the peaks of Mount Ida (i.e. where Thor and Zeus fight)

2) we are given a direct comparison immediately after statement 1) telling us that, while months pass below, only "an instant" passes on top of the mountain

3) after the fight Thor directly contradicts someone mentioning that months have passed.

Put all three of those together and it's pretty blatant what happened IMHO.

Cheers.

Primes win

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You might be looking at it right now, but wolverinos heard about it from a reliable forum post before.

So who's really right?

wolverinos is always right. %100 canon

Is this sbp amped superman or the true superman prime?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was a galaxy moving at speed.

A galaxy coming near another galaxy in two hours and so fast that it caused chronal ripples across centuries?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was moving so fast that it caused ripples across time for centuries. Two galaxies are sometimes millions of lightyears apart in distance, colliding with another galaxy in two hours? So far above lightspeed, its not even funny. The effect of those two galaxies nearly colliding nearly folded entire Hypertime.

http://i.imgur.com/GrzIjQE.jpg

"Every possible universe at once."

Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway, Kal punching through time isn't so impressive on its own but when you consider how much he was weakened, its ****ing awesome. As per JLA 1M, he was at least weakened to 1/10000 level of his power as he is at least lightspeed and here he could only jump (not even fly) at 1/10000th speed of light.

Then he gets weakened even more in DC 1M 3 where even his HV is gone and he's at the last reserves of his power.

Even more weakened in DC 1M 4 where he punches through time to the point he ages into an old man.

But as soon as he reaches 853rd century, he's back at his full power.

So it was Kal Kent at less than 1/10000th of his power who punched straight through time.

That's just Kal Kent, who Prime gave a portion of his own powers.

Originally posted by carver9
Stop talking to me.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Scan that states Zeus is all magic?
Hercules grappled him from behind, and then was dazed for the rest of the comic after Zeus beat the shit out of him with a missed blast, a throw, and one punch.
He got knocked down by She Hulk, Namor, and Thor after Black Knight absorbed his blast and fired it back at Zeus. And then he knocked everyone out directly after getting "knocked down".
I'm pretty sure Zeus has never appeared in a comic with Kingpin.

The whole skill thing is a lie though. So is him not being able to effect Prime even if he was full on magic considering Zauriel's fist caused damage to Prime. It's just active magic that doesn't "effect" Prime. Not just people powered by magic.

Sounds like you're the one who's biased.

Though low showings is funny considering Prime's low showings.

it is known that zeus is all magic. if you would like to prove his force is something else rather than magic then the burden of proof is on you since its well known that zeus use magic.
hercules knocked him down on his ass physically.
yada yada he beat hercules wow... i guess beating hercules sure put you as an elite skyfather he?
so zeus taking a blast means its ok for him to be taken down by low heralds physically? if all it takes is just a blast to take him out like that it doesnt help your case.
aside of that it wasnt stated nor was it hinted that he was even injured after that blast, he just took it and was perfectly fine.
yes he did read recend hercules arcs.
when zeus lost his powers kingpin treated him like a b**** literally speaking. no skills were presented from zeus not even minimal.

dont make up lies. no one was ever able to hurt prime with magic. zuriel was trying to hurt prime but prime again stated magic tickles him. i would like to see the scan of zuriel hurting prime, and even if he did then zuriel punches arent magic his sword is, but if zeus amp himself with magic his punches will become magic, zeus will have non magical punches without amping, and without amping he is dead.

low showings? if all those showings are low then where are the high ones to counter it?. as far as i know those are the complete majority of his fighting showings. only showings that do him any good are beating thor after days of fighting and fisting hulk with magic charged punches, this is laughable and a joke to average prime, not to eve mention guardian amped prime.

Originally posted by LGU
Yes, it was mentioned quite literally that time was passing differently for Thor and Zeus. It is explicitly stated that time slows to a crawl around Zeus and Thor so while months pass for the warriors beneath them, only an instant passes for the two gods on top of Mount Ida.

If it were just that one statement, it might be arguable that it's ambiguous (not a very strong argument mind you).

But it isn't just that one statement. After the fight, Thor is directly asked about his battle taking "many months". He explicitly refutes the suggestion: "for you, mayhap [months have passed]... not for me."

So the explicit statements we have within the pretty short fight scene:
1) "time itself" explicitly begins to "tread at varying pace" around the peaks of Mount Ida (i.e. where Thor and Zeus fight)

2) we are given a direct comparison immediately after statement 1) telling us that, while months pass below, only "an instant" passes on top of the mountain

3) after the fight Thor directly contradicts someone mentioning that months have passed.

Put all three of those together and it's pretty blatant what happened IMHO.

Cheers.

oh i see. again i read the fight once some time ago and couldnt remember that, in that case you are right nice to know. i guess it gived zeus more credibility then since i was under the impression it actually took him that long to defeat a herald.

Again with this "Zeus amping" thing?

He didn't amp to beat the shit out of Hulk. He's just that powerful. Lightning coursing from his fists is just a side effect of that power, seeing as how he's the Lord of Olympus and God of Lightning.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Again with this "Zeus amping" thing?

He didn't amp to beat the shit out of Hulk. He's just that powerful. Lightning coursing from his fists is just a side effect of that power, seeing as how he's the Lord of Olympus and God of Lightning.

zeus did amp his punches, the aura around his fists clearly shows that since normally he doesnt have any aura around them.
him getting all of a sudden a giant also may hint that.
finally the fact he charged his punches with magic that overpowered hulks healing factor and disabled that, odrinary non magical punches cant turn off hulks healing factor, only magical charged punches could achieve such goal.

Originally posted by wolverinos
zeus did amp his punches, the aura around his fists clearly shows that since normally he doesnt have any aura around them.
him getting all of a sudden a giant also may hint that.
finally the fact he charged his punches with magic that overpowered hulks healing factor and disabled that, odrinary non magical punches cant turn off hulks healing factor, only magical charged punches could achieve such goal.

That's Zeus' power. It's innate. He's not "powering up" or somehow channeling more power from outside of his being. That's all Zeus. So, it's not even amping, and even if it was, what does it matter? Zeus can will himself to be physically strong enough to shit on Hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That's Zeus' power. It's innate. He's not "powering up" or somehow channeling more power from outside of his being. That's all Zeus. So, it's not even amping, and even if it was, what does it matter? Zeus can will himself to be physically strong enough to shit on Hulk.

of course its part of his power however its not his basic power nor is it his average physical power.
the guy made himself grow into a giant and charged his punches with magic, yes he can do it due to magic, but same magic will fail vs prime as was said earlier.
it is amping, its the same as iron fist or shang chi using chi amps, its their inner energy, however they use it to amp their physical stats, its the exact same way with what zeus did here.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That's Zeus' power. It's innate. He's not "powering up" or somehow channeling more power from outside of his being. That's all Zeus. So, it's not even amping, and even if it was, what does it matter? Zeus can will himself to be physically strong enough to shit on Hulk.

Originally posted by mighty adam
nay I say to thee nay. Hulk has limitless strength so dose immortal herc, superman threw sun dip, juggernaut if called on, Zeus dose not Odin dose not. But they have DAT godly juice **** strength.

That's funny because clearly Zeus and Odin can manhandle heralds physically without trying.

Superman prime is walking pis CIS and a deus ex. He can cry, piss, wave, punch, kick, sing, clap, sneeze, talk, yell, fly, heat vision, blow, spin, throw, speed blitz, absorb yes absorb Zeus energy, or anything him out of existence. SMP is too op.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That's funny because clearly Zeus and Odin can manhandle heralds physically without trying.