Originally posted by carver9
Looking at those scans, Zeus is a freaking beast. Herald attacks didn't even make him flinch. Bran...what comic is that.?
Avengers #284 or #285 IIRC. He's a beast throughout that story. Generally wrecks a pretty powerful Avengers team with relative ease (Thor, Namor, She Hulk, Captain Marvel, Black Knight, and Hercules joins in at the end).
Cheers.
Originally posted by LGU
Avengers #284 or #285 IIRC. He's a beast throughout that story. Generally wrecks a pretty powerful Avengers team with relative ease (Thor, Namor, She Hulk, Captain Marvel, Black Knight, and Hercules joins in at the end).Cheers.
Yeah, looking at those scans, he shrugged off EVERYTHING. The only thing thataffected him was his own power.
Originally posted by LGU
"All the while" doesn't really tell us much of use about the length of their fight; it just tells us that Zeus was ranting for the duration of their fight, whatever that may have been.Sure, but we are explicitly told in three separate ways that the months that passed below didn't pass for Thor and Zeus so that doesn't really change anything.
They'd already been fighting for a few pages and Zeus had marvelled at Thor's refusal to stay down a couple of times by the time we came to the energy duel.
It's obvious the energy duel goes on for a while but there's no evidence for it being anything longer than a standard comic fight.
What clues does the comic actually give us as to how much time passes?
In the first panel of their energy duel, we are told "a second" passes.
Next panel, the time distortion effect kicks in and the narration tells us that months pass below while only an instant passes for Thor and Zeus.
The narration then goes on to tell us a second time that further "long months" pass by below - meaning for Thor and Zeus, more "instants" must have passed too.
There is obviously a fair deal of ambiguity about how long the fight is exactly. The one thing we can say for a cast-iron fact is that the fight does not last for months. But we can make some other inferences IMHO. Cumulatively, the narration provides the clues to tell us that the energy duel lasted longer than a single instant, absolutely... but nothing to suggest it was a particularly long encounter either. The only measurements of time used to describe their battle are very small ones, in conscious contrast to the long time measurements used for the battle below.
I'll just repost this:
Originally posted by Sundipped
While all that may be true, this "instant" took longer than what the typical definition implies.
All I want is for people to not get hung up on the word instant and think that standoff happened in a flash because it clearly didn't. It has been a common misconception for years. I was never trying to push for the notion that the fight actually lasted months.
Originally posted by LGU
We'll Thor was already looking in a pretty bad way before he triggered the energy battle (after Zeus grabs his arm and slams him into the floor).Also, at the risk of incurring the wrath of Thor fans, I think there is actually a whole heap of evidence that Zeus is holding back quite a bit in that fight. In fact he explicitly states that his attacks aren't intended to kill Thor at one point. He spends most of the fight trying to convince Thor to give up as he obviously can't win and the fight is pointless. The fight ends with Zeus having apparently decisively won the energy duel off-panel, with Thor knocked down and not defending himself, and Zeus again trying to get him to quit - none of this really fits the typical definition of a fighter going "all-out" IMHO.
Cheers.
I disagree. The power was being channeled through Mjolnir and all it takes is for Thor to hold and aim which, as we saw, he was fully capable despite his condition.
Zeus told him initially that his bolts were not set to kill but after it was all said and done, for Zeus to rank Thor in the same category as a combined challenge from the gods AND Titans collectively in terms of resistance, it's easy to come to the conclusion that this took a good deal of effort on Zeus' part. There's also the fact that Zeus was referred to as equal by Thor which Zeus set out to dismiss adamantly by way of increased power output. My speculation is that Thor was operating around godblast levels for Zeus to make that kind of comparison. Both put alot out, Thor just tapped out.
Originally posted by Sundipped
I'll just repost this:All I want is for people to not get hung up on the word instant and think that standoff happened in a flash because it clearly didn't. It has been a common misconception for years. I was never trying to push for the notion that the fight actually lasted months.
Fair enough.
I disagree. The power was being channeled through Mjolnir and all it takes is for Thor to hold and aim which, as we saw, he was fully capable despite his condition.
Thor was apparently capable of answering the ten count but he had obviously lost the initial duel. They want from a Dragonball Z-style beam war to Thor lying flattened with Zeus standing over him urging him to quit while he still could.
Not a KO and a win but a definite knock-down and a 10-8 for the round on the judge's score-cards, to use a boxing analogy.
Zeus told him initially that his bolts were not set to kill but after it was all said and done, for Zeus to rank Thor in the same category as a combined challenge from the gods AND Titans collectively in terms of resistance, it's easy to come to the conclusion that this took a good deal of effort on Zeus' part. There's also the fact that Zeus was referred to as equal by Thor which Zeus set out to dismiss adamantly by way of increased power output. My speculation is that Thor was operating around godblast levels for Zeus to make that kind of comparison. Both put alot out, Thor just tapped out.
Zeus put a lot out and was obviously putting effort in but I think there's a difference between that and Zeus not holding back "much... if any."
I think it's a good - maybe even a great - showing for Thor but I can't really get behind the idea that Zeus wasn't holding back because he paid Thor some nice lip-service. Thor obviously won his respect but Zeus was fighting to teach him a lesson, not to maim or kill him, offering him multiple opportunities to surrender before things got too serious (before and after . I think that really hurts the idea that he wasn't obviously holding something in reserve.
Cheers.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Concession accepted. I'm glad to know you can't prove something you claim is common knowledge.
Stop claiming something if you can't prove it. You're making an argument, so show me your point. You say Zeus is entirely magic with no other powers involved, so go ahead and show me that Zeus is magic to begin with, and we'll play from there. As of right now, you realize that you can't even begin to prove your claim, so why should I listen to you?So you don't care why Hercules took Zeus down even though it had to do with grabbing him from behind? Yet you start weeping when I point out low level heroes punching Prime around? You've utterly defeated your own point. Getting thrown around isn't a low feat.
I never said it was a low feat on Zeus' or Prime's part. I just said getting knocked around doesn't prove anything. Hell, in that scene Prime claimed he was unharmed. Yet he got knocked around more violently than Zeus did.
No his feats don't. He's always been knocked around by low level heroes. But there's a difference between getting knocked around, or grappled in Zeus' case, and getting actually hurt. Neither were hurt in either case, yet you're so blinded by stupidity to a point where you actually think getting thrown around is a low feat... especially when Zeus wasn't even paying attention to Hercules.Also, I love how you figure you can just lowball, and then shoot blood out of your anus when you think anyone else does the same.
Your next point has you saying that She-Hulk/Namor are more powerful than Zeus. Which not only goes against every of Zeus' other feats, but everything in the arc itself, including the scene of She-Hulk/Namor hitting him. You want to talk about 95 percent like you know anything about comics, then look no farther to an entire arc of Zeus being completely unaffected by heroes until he gets hit by his own blast, and then proceeds to knock all the heroes out anyway.He took his own blasts and screamed out in pain which you claimed didn't effect him. Before that, this happened:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Zeus/Avengers284_06a.jpghttp://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Zeus/Avengers284_15b.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Zeus/Avengers284_16b.jpgSo there's way more justification that he was weakened or stunned by his blast than he wasn't. And there's also the fact that you are currently seriously arguing that Namor/She-Hulk are more powerful than Zeus, which borders on complete retardation. In your blind stupidity hissy fit you fail to realize that yes, Zeus' own blast would inflict more damage on him than two heroes who he easily KO'ed repeatedly throughout the arc.
I had to quote this so I could point out how stupid this is.
You think Prime crying and getting a bloody lip doesn't matter because he still won, yet you think Zeus getting grappled by Hercules, and Zeus getting put on his knees after a skyfather level blast and Namor (Superboy level being) and She-Hulk and a hammer throw is a deciding feat? Even though he knocked out all of them directly after? Yes Prime still won, but considering you think Zeus getting even the tiniest bit damaged but still winning easily is an ultimate low... You just show you're a massive hypocrite with a tenuous grasp on logic in general.
Also, Prime bleeding from Superboy isn't lowballing you meathead. It's happened in everyone of their fights. Which is 3 to my count. He even cut a scar in Superboy's chest. Actually it's more than 3, but I didn't want to bring up Prime's last fight against the Titans...No no no, you should work on your reading comprehension. You just stated that Zeus' no sold his own blast getting turned back on him, yet you feel She-Hulk/Namor can beat the utter shit out of him on their own. If I didn't previously spell it out all over my last two posts, I'd retell it again.
Oh what the hell, I'm feeling whimsical.There's more, but even with your meager brain, you should be able to see where you said they are more powerful than Zeus' blast.
Those aren't his only fighting feats... but seeing as you brought it up... Zeus pretty much no sold a cheapshot from WWH, but apparently WWH can't match that She-Hulk/Namor power.
On that note, I recall you stating that Hulk would beat Galactus in h2h... which on its own is odd, but considering your stance on Zeus, it's even odder. Though with your already likely odd shaped head, it wouldn't be the oddest.Well, considering Kingpin would absolutely destroy a powerless Superboy Prime, and probably accidentally kill him, I'm not getting how that's supposed to be a low showing.
However, with you being a liar, and you inability to prove anything, I severely question it happening at all, and I'm not even going to look to see if it happened considering you're about as trustworthy as a screwdriver in the dickhole.
its very easy to throw meaningless words, however it just amuses it further. if you need a proof zeus is using magic then i also demand a proof you got at least 1 brain cell in your head.
as i pointed out earlier if you believe zeus has some other basics to his powers please provide the evidence.
i see exactly where you are going with this but i am not falling into this trap, you are claiming zeus powers are not only magic then provide evidence of zeus powers being something other than that.
hercules taking zeus to the ground is just a portrayel of the fact zeus can be physically affected by heralds and taken down to the ground.
the crap you posted for prime is PIS based on his other showings thats the difference.
again use reading comprehension never did i state that i am comparing zeus low feats to primes, my whole point was that zeus has very few feats of his being involved in a physical confrontation, and even among those very few he doesnt look too good based on the fact he finds himself on his ass by all kind of heralds, then you come with your anal bleeding over that and start bitching and lowballing prime and everybody , geez whipe your tears with his ginger beard man.
again practice your reading comprehension.
please show me where did i say she hulk or namor are more powerful than zeus? what i mentioned was the fact they knocked zeus down to the ground which is again a very poor showing for him once again.
if i dont know nothing about comics then go ahead show me those 95% cmon, where are they? they dont exist doofoos.
again if you feel after zeus took that blast he was hurt to the point he became weaker present the evidence, as far as we see in that scan it only made him angrier but he was not hurt by any means.
again this is not a comparing contest between prime and zeus.
however if you really want to compare feats then why are you choosing primes lowest? lets take zeus feats and compare them to prime normal or prime highest? how about that? how about show me zeus doing anything greater than altering reality with his fists? punching dimensions? wrecking the JLA JSA and superman ? bfr the anti monitor? destroy 32 green lanterns? destroy an ION? you cant? see that works both ways.
my point with zeus was that he just doesnt have any feats and the ones he does have clearly dont really put him in the skyfather scale. judging by all his feats i would give him trans.
again never did i claim they were more powerful thanz eus i just stated facts.
a bunch of low heralds really beat his ass to the ground, if i am wrong show me then because thats exactly what happened.
i never claimed he did not beat the hulk, its actually his best fighting feat so fat.
of course it took him amping and all but still nice feat.
the hulk vs galactus was me having fun trying to make the hulk fanboys join the party, only twats like you bought my game.
the showing with kingpin was there to prove my statement that zeus doesnt have much fighting skills at all. kingpin basically slapped him around like a homelss. powerless or not zeus should have had some skills, a powerless thor would wreck kingpin, a powerless odin probably could give him a fight, no powers means no skills? again practice your reading comprehension son.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
How in the shit is that any different from Zeus? Making up when Zeus "amps" and when he uses "magic" doesn't change the fact that he is almost exactly the same as Zauriel... if you could prove Zeus that everything Zeus does is magical to begin with. Glowy fists doesn't change that, and even without glowy fists his punches still did the same amount to Hulk.
Also, way to ignore a large portion of that part hombre (Superman not being able to effect Prime if he suddenly got magic amped, etc). Though I'm not sure that was intentional. I mean, you probably would have given a dumb answer if you saw it, it's just the dumb portion took over and made you think you read it already.I don't know if you can't see pictures or what... or if you don't know what Zauriel looks like - Actually, that's probably likely - but I just posted Zauriel hurting Prime.
Here's the full page:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2ll1x0i.jpgAs you can see in the next panel that hand that rocks Prime's head back when he says it hurts is the one of that winged man. The winged man is actually an angel from Heaven. His name is Zauriel.
Also a fun factoid for you sport, is that a magic lasso was choking Prime in that comic. Which shouldn't be possible seeing as magic added to anything should suddenly make Prime invincible. Hell, Superman could be knocking all of Prime's teeth out, but if Zatanna started amping Superman, he'd suddenly lose all effect against Prime. Amirite?
http://i40.tinypic.com/21epx81.jpgI'm pretty sure you couldn't counter not getting shit on your pants with a diaper, let alone my posts. As evidenced here.
And I'm not even saying Zeus wins or loses as I said in the part you just replied to with this dribble for whatever reason... just the things you're saying are bullshit. As well as the notion that Zeus can't hurt Prime because you think he's super magic guy number 1 and magic suddenly makes Prime's toehair stand as erect as your penis staring at Prime's lusty eyes.
because zuriel is just an angel with magic sword and abilities, however he is not a being made out of magic, a punch from zuriel is just a punch, however if zeus amp his fists with his magic that means those will be a magical punches just like black adam had. and we all know what happened when black adam was punching prime.
are you really comparing superman punches to a base level hercules who gets knocked down everywhere by heralds? GTFO of here.
again i already explained the zuriel part.
and by the way prime was extremely weakened during that fight, as soon as a ray of sun touched his finger he knocked them all the f^ck away from him.
nice try at lowballing.
the lasso is not pure magic, its a f^ckin rope forced by magic, what hurted prime is not the magic but the freakin rope around his neck.
then explain to me how come black adam punching prime made him laugh? i mean its superman level punches supported by magic so how come he laugh them off?
and even if we go by that theory that zeus base level punches covered by magic punching prime will only leave him uneffected by the amping part and he will only feel the power of base level zeus its still pathetic.
what feats does zeus have punching at his base levels? knocking back hercules? righttttt like thats something that will put prime down.
thats the way things are.
prime is imune to magic.
you can cry, analy bleed, rape your sister, you can do waht ever you want but it wont change this fact, prime is imune to magic and will beat any skyfather who is based on magic.
Originally posted by carver9
Looking at those scans, Zeus is a freaking beast. Herald attacks didn't even make him flinch. Bran...what comic is that.?
They had just fought their way out of Tartarus and a gauntlet of Gods before they made it to Zeus. The narrator even mentioned that they were tired and worn. Hell, that Team's most powerful member, Thor, was under Hela's "brittle bone curse" and obviously nowhere near his best.
Originally posted by wolverinos
its very easy to throw meaningless words, however it just amuses it further. if you need a proof zeus is using magic then i also demand a proof you got at least 1 brain cell in your head.
as i pointed out earlier if you believe zeus has some other basics to his powers please provide the evidence.
i see exactly where you are going with this but i am not falling into this trap, you are claiming zeus powers are not only magic then provide evidence of zeus powers being something other than that.hercules taking zeus to the ground is just a portrayel of the fact zeus can be physically affected by heralds and taken down to the ground.
the crap you posted for prime is PIS based on his other showings thats the difference.
again use reading comprehension never did i state that i am comparing zeus low feats to primes, my whole point was that zeus has very few feats of his being involved in a physical confrontation, and even among those very few he doesnt look too good based on the fact he finds himself on his ass by all kind of heralds, then you come with your anal bleeding over that and start bitching and lowballing prime and everybody , geez whipe your tears with his ginger beard man.again practice your reading comprehension.
please show me where did i say she hulk or namor are more powerful than zeus? what i mentioned was the fact they knocked zeus down to the ground which is again a very poor showing for him once again.
if i dont know nothing about comics then go ahead show me those 95% cmon, where are they? they dont exist doofoos.
again if you feel after zeus took that blast he was hurt to the point he became weaker present the evidence, as far as we see in that scan it only made him angrier but he was not hurt by any means.again this is not a comparing contest between prime and zeus.
however if you really want to compare feats then why are you choosing primes lowest? lets take zeus feats and compare them to prime normal or prime highest? how about that? how about show me zeus doing anything greater than altering reality with his fists? punching dimensions? wrecking the JLA JSA and superman ? bfr the anti monitor? destroy 32 green lanterns? destroy an ION? you cant? see that works both ways.
my point with zeus was that he just doesnt have any feats and the ones he does have clearly dont really put him in the skyfather scale. judging by all his feats i would give him trans.again never did i claim they were more powerful thanz eus i just stated facts.
a bunch of low heralds really beat his ass to the ground, if i am wrong show me then because thats exactly what happened.
Zeus getting grappled from behind is meaningless. You don't win fights in comics from grappling. Unless you think Goddamned shit ass grappler Prime is going to win by grappling.
And you aren't comparing Zeus' low feats to Prime. Because that goes against anything you state. But I am, because Prime has the exact same feats you're lowballing Zeus with, but in greater numbers. I never said you brought up Prime's lowfeats... although that'd be smarter than what you're saying now... I said they're relevant because Prime's lows are lower.
Learn how to read kid.
But anyway, like I already posted, this happened to the heroes when Zeus wasn't being hit with his own blasts:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Zeus/Avengers284_06a.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Zeus/Avengers284_15b.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/Zeus/Avengers284_16b.jpg
Zeus is so crazily above them at full power that they are literally nothing to him. And no Zeus doesn't have a lot of feats, but he has enough to call that feat out (I don't even care about the Hercules one since it's utterly retarded). Tanking a WWH cheapshot easily, tossing Thor around easily, and even feats from the same arc.
Well, see, here's the issue since you keep saying 95 percent like it has meaning. And I felt you were sending a message with this. So... Now I went through a decent amount of Prime's showings, and I found showings that fit your description of why Zeus is a complete piece of shit but from Prime's showings. IE, Hercules, one of the strongest beings in Marvel and one of the best wrestlers in comics grappling Zeus from behind. And Zeus being knocked on his knees from She-Hulk/Namor/Thor... and I'll even ignore the Skyfather level attack that preceded that, for your sake. Hell, I've even ignore showings where he explicably gets weakened... because there's a lot of those ones...
Actually, for that matter, I'll even leave out a couple of scans from Legion of 3 Worlds. And a couple from the Black Lantern fight because it gets quite excessive with your description of low feats. Hell, I'll even avoid scenes where Superman hurts Prime or tosses him around for that matter just because. Your welcome. 🙂
Now, here is in your opinion 5 percent of someone's showings who has appeared in around 47 comics total. So, leaving out a lot of scans, but still going by his whole history because you said so, and outright challenged me to do it... without farther adieu.
So, you want to lowball? Let's lowball.
Here is Prime getting knocked around by beings around Hercules level or under:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevssuperboy8.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevssuperboy9.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevssuperboy10.jpg
ETC
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/roundtwo.jpg
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/killantlan.jpg.html
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/Superman/lotw16.jpg.html
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds004-008.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/05ad.jpg
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17068079/5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17068080/6.jpg.html
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16696/1985159-21.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone8.jpg
Here is Prime getting damaged by beings around Thor/Namor/She-Hulk level or lower (obviously):
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/primevssuperboy5.jpg.html
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/blackadamfail3.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/roundtwo3.jpg
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/roundtwo4.jpg.html
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/aaloutbart.jpg.html
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/toomuchforgls3.jpg.html
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds001-026.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds004-006.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds004-007.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds004-009.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds004-025.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds004-028.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds005-003.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/FinalCrisis-LegionofThreeWorlds005-009.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/04ad.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Prime/totscsp_009.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/21epx81.jpg
And the coup de grace (though admittedly, this is above Namor/She-Hulk/Thor, but considering you, I'll let it slide):
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16696/1985160-22.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16696/1985162-23.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16696/1985163-24.jpg
Because you think Zeus' own blast can't hurt him at all. Yet you think She-Hulk/Namor can beat his ass to the ground.
It's like I'm talking to a retarded wall who huffed an entire can of spray paint.
Also, I find it odd how you're basing this on one "low feat" and stating he wasn't hurt by his own blast even though he screamed out "arrrggg" after getting hit by it...
Originally posted by wolverinosIt is exactly a "comparing contest" between Prime. What, you think you should be able to bring up some meaningless feats from Zeus in an attempt to lowball him, but I can't do the same for Prime? So by this logic I can walk into a Superman vs Hulk thread and just start lowballing the shit out of Superman, but no one can retort with Hulk low showings? Because I know your logic would fold in an instant if that happened. Hell, all the blood leaking from your anus currently would just explode out and paint your Berenstain Bears wall red if that happened.
again this is not a comparing contest between prime and zeus.
however if you really want to compare feats then why are you choosing primes lowest? lets take zeus feats and compare them to prime normal or prime highest? how about that? how about show me zeus doing anything greater than altering reality with his fists? punching dimensions? wrecking the JLA JSA and superman ? bfr the anti monitor? destroy 32 green lanterns? destroy an ION? you cant? see that works both ways.
my point with zeus was that he just doesnt have any feats and the ones he does have clearly dont really put him in the skyfather scale. judging by all his feats i would give him trans.again never did i claim they were more powerful thanz eus i just stated facts.
a bunch of low heralds really beat his ass to the ground, if i am wrong show me then because thats exactly what happened.i never claimed he did not beat the hulk, its actually his best fighting feat so fat.
of course it took him amping and all but still nice feat.
And I'm choosing Prime's lowest feats because you're only using Zeus' lowest showings (without context mind you). Had you immediately went to Prime's highest showings, I wouldn't have so much of a problem because I admit Zeus doesn't have the high feats to match... just consistency. But no, you want to pretend Zeus can outright tank skyfather attacks, yet be hurt by Namor/She-Hulk, and that makes sense to you. And on some plane in your mental disorder, you figure Hercules grappling Zeus around is an absolutely terrible feat.
But a weaker Hulk than Zeus beat into a coma repeated the retcon feats and altering reality.
I don't know where Prime has beaten the JSA/JLA/Superman... so... And Zeus easily beat the Avengers at multiple points.
Should I be impressed by BFR'ing the Anti-Monitor?
Or 32 canon fodder lanterns?
Or Ion... actually for that matter, you later cry about me using a showing where Prime was weakened, yet he jammed him with a lead pipe that almost killed him on his own.
Actually, the Ion and 32 Lanterns feats made me respect the Anti-Monitor one more... because they're sad.
And Zeus beat the original Typhon who ran all the Gods out of Olympus and Zeus living keeps him depowered. He casually dismisses Pluto all the time, who stalemated Hela, stalemated/"defeated" the Stranger, and is generally portrayed as Skyfather level being on par with Mephisto and the like.
Yet you keep stating that Zeus tanked his own blast, but a bunch of heralds beat him.
I don't even understand how your brain processes this and becomes astounded that the message you're putting out (She-Hulk/Namor > Zeus's blast) isn't what you thought it was. And to top it all off, you're acting like there's nothing wrong with the feat itself.
Let's put this in a way a retarded monkey with a bullet in his brain could understand:
You state Zeus can tank his own attacks. Therefore Zeus can tank Zeus level power, easily.
You state that Zeus however cannot tank She-Hulk/Namor level attacks. Therefore Zeus can be hurt from those attacks.
If Zeus can tank his own level of power, but can't tank She-Hulk/Namor level of power, then that means that She-Hulk/Namor > Zeus's blast.
And considering you figure it's an everyday showing, that's exactly what you're saying. Otherwise you better re-examine your brain head thought process stuff and reiterate in a way someone with a hint of brain matter can understand. But you won't be able to do that because you're of questionable intelligence. No, you're just going to state "but I wsnt sayin shehukl and nammor r moar powerful than zues!!! omg readng cumprahansion!!!"
Well, it isn't, and he didn't amp. So there's that. Wait wait wait WAIT.
Unless you have proof he was amping. And considering how much you've shown to be able to prove, I will await this scan stating Zeus was amping with great anticipation.
Originally posted by wolverinosSo you were really only pretending to be retarded? That seems to be a common thing with you... putting off the impression that you're retarded that is.
the hulk vs galactus was me having fun trying to make the hulk fanboys join the party, only twats like you bought my game.
Originally posted by wolverinosSo that's what you're going to do... just keep talking about it? I asked you to prove it or give any semblance of proof that it happened, and you outright refused. So judging from this we just make up feats I guess? Very well, my next post will reflect this.
the showing with kingpin was there to prove my statement that zeus doesnt have much fighting skills at all. kingpin basically slapped him around like a homelss. powerless or not zeus should have had some skills, a powerless thor would wreck kingpin, a powerless odin probably could give him a fight, no powers means no skills? again practice your reading comprehension son.
But anyway... none of those characters would beat Kingpin depowered. And Prime would fare the worst out of any of them depowered so that's not even a point. A depowered character should not beat up a Spider-Man level being.
But yeah, Kingpin is low:
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Originally posted by wolverinosI literally looked through one comic:
because zuriel is just an angel with magic sword and abilities, however he is not a being made out of magic, a punch from zuriel is just a punch, however if zeus amp his fists with his magic that means those will be a magical punches just like black adam had. and we all know what happened when black adam was punching prime.are you really comparing superman punches to a base level hercules who gets knocked down everywhere by heralds? GTFO of here.
again i already explained the zuriel part.
and by the way prime was extremely weakened during that fight, as soon as a ray of sun touched his finger he knocked them all the f^ck away from him.
nice try at lowballing.the lasso is not pure magic, its a f^ckin rope forced by magic, what hurted prime is not the magic but the freakin rope around his neck.
then explain to me how come black adam punching prime made him laugh? i mean its superman level punches supported by magic so how come he laugh them off?
and even if we go by that theory that zeus base level punches covered by magic punching prime will only leave him uneffected by the amping part and he will only feel the power of base level zeus its still pathetic.
what feats does zeus have punching at his base levels? knocking back hercules? righttttt like thats something that will put prime down.thats the way things are.
prime is imune to magic.
you can cry, analy bleed, rape your sister, you can do waht ever you want but it wont change this fact, prime is imune to magic and will beat any skyfather who is based on magic.
Prove Zeus amped. Prove his amping is pure magic.
And Black Adam made Prime scream out in pain on the first punch he landed, and then he fixated on the magic, and Prime said the magic tickled, not the punches. Kinetix also had Prime down with magic blasts too.
The magic presumably won't hurt, but the punches will. And even more so if he actually amps his strength. Though again, Zeus' punches hurt Hulk just as much when he didn't have glowy effect as when he did... if that's what you're replying to.
Where in the **** anywhere in that post was I comparing Hercules' punches to Superman? I was going to go into discussing this, but your reading comprehension is so terrible that you are making words appear on your screen.
And Hercules didn't even punch Zeus so I'm not even sure why I'd be comparing that in the first place.
You explained the Zauriel part to nobody but your own brain. I'm not even sure you could have convinced a child who's never read any comics ever with what you stated.
So what you're saying is that Prime's magical invulnerability is based on his own power level at the time? Therefore it is not actually an invulnerability but he just has a high defense? After all, if magic had no effect on him, then it would be static across the board no matter what his power level was. You can't be completely invulnerable to magic and then get damaged by it just from a lowering your power level a little.
So Prime is not actually invulnerable to magic is what you're saying? Well, as long as it comes out of your mouth and not mine...
And you said something like you're too smart to fall into traps earlier? I thought you covered Zauriel though? So why you felt the need to tell me Prime only has a high defense to magic is beyond me. Brochacho.
Originally posted by wolverinosHoly shit, seriously? You are not very bright.
the lasso is not pure magic, its a f^ckin rope forced by magic, what hurted prime is not the magic but the freakin rope around his neck.
And I'm not saying the magic hurt Prime. I'm saying a magical lasso hurt Prime which is contrary to your belief that anything wrapped in magic means Prime tanks it. But if a rope around Prime's neck can hurt Prime, then what do you think a being who is way stronger than WWH can do? Even if he is magic?
You're doing more harm than good at this stage.
But yeah, he certainly didn't laugh off the first punch:
How about you don't ask for feats of things when you refuse to prove anything in return? Prove Zeus amps. Prove Zeus uses magic to amp. And prove Prime would bypass the actual amped strength if we go by your opinion. Since judging from your opinion, he'd only bypass the "glowy fists" not his actual strength being amped.
But of course, going by your opinion, Prime only has a high defense against magic, and a magical rope can hurt Prime.
But I like how you play (?) stupid and ignore common knowledge and things previously spelled out for you many times. He had Hercules almost knocked out for the rest of the comic with one punch (even some time after Herc was still dizzy), and he made Hulk puke without glowy fists. These are the things that were pointed out many times to you.
But since you're going to say something stupid and cry for proof or some other shit you do, I might as well repost it.
Zeus without a glowing fist makes Hulk puke:
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And I might as well cover this now because I don't want to say it again, but I assume glowing fists are the "magic" since there is no other hint of amping or magic being used.
You just said Prime's magical resistance is dependant on his power, indicating a high defense as opposed to complete immunity.
Yes, I am the crybaby. I'm sure you state this while you wet the penis of the day with your dripping tears. And I like how you state this considering I previously said I'm not arguing for Zeus to win, just arguing for Zeus against your brainlessness.
But seriously, Prime would get obliterated by Odin straight up. Zeus is one thing, but he's not beating Odin, no way. I don't know why you added that "Skyfather" part in considering it only makes your crybaby antics worse. And maybe you're not a useless sack of downs syndrome, maybe you're just a biased fanboy.
Actually I take that back immediately. You're both.
