Originally posted by quanchi112
A durability feat isn't an impervious feat. That's the problem with your entire argument. We don't know he was undamaged. We just know it didn't defeat him. There is a quite a difference between something hurting you and defeating you in combat.
And the problem with your argument is that you do not appear to be reading mine. Who are you talking about here? I've been discussing Shadow Beasts and their stated immunity to bombs.
False. We see light restored beat the twilight transformation. All it takes is light and setting the world out of balance by stealing the light spirits light.That doesn't apply to respectable fictional worlds.
That's just you taking a quote about the Master Sword out of context and trying to apply it to Twilight, though. Which is pretty dishonest, but whatever. In any case, the game proves you wrong here: If Twilight could not be called while light was present, the way Zant invaded would have been impossible. He used Twilight before taking the light away, if you recall.
Originally posted by The ScenarioWhen did I say someone throes a bomb at the shadow beasts. I mean wtf are you talking about,
And the problem with your argument is that you do not appear to be reading mine. Who are you talking about here? I've been discussing Shadow Beasts and their stated immunity to bombs.That's just you taking a quote about the Master Sword out of context and trying to apply it to Twilight, though. Which is pretty dishonest, but whatever. In any case, the game proves you wrong here: If Twilight could not be called while light was present, the way Zant invaded would have been impossible. He used Twilight before taking the light away, if you recall.
No, it is clear light defeats the twilight. Gandalf easily routes this awful magic which dominated a weak Hyrule.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say someone throes a bomb at the shadow beasts. I mean wtf are you talking about,No, it is clear light defeats the twilight. Gandalf easily routes this awful magic which dominated a weak Hyrule.
Gandalf needs to defeat the insect things inside the twilight realm, but he needs to keep physical form in the realm. So far the only ones to do that are Link and Zelda who both have a fragment of the Triforce.
Speaking of which... TRIFORCE!!! Wish to defeat middle earth... VICTORY.
Originally posted by Dramatic GeckoThe only reason it is possible is due to the lack of light they stole. That's simple for Lotr.
Gandalf needs to defeat the insect things inside the twilight realm, but he needs to keep physical form in the realm. So far the only ones to do that are Link and Zelda who both have a fragment of the Triforce.Speaking of which... TRIFORCE!!! Wish to defeat middle earth... VICTORY.
When do they show wishing powers in TP ?
Quit making things up.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say someone throes a bomb at the shadow beasts. I mean wtf are you talking about,
Quan, man. Quan. I love ya, man, but you seriously need to pay attention to the current discussion.
I have been talking about Shadow Beasts this entire time.
No, it is clear light defeats the twilight. Gandalf easily routes this awful magic which dominated a weak Hyrule.
Or Twilight takes Gandalf's light, if you're so intent on that being a thing.
But no, the game shows that the light does not need to be stolen in order for twilight to be used. It's the cutscene where you first meet Zelda, for crying out loud.
Originally posted by The ScenarioI know you have but we lack all context about what actually hit them.
Quan, man. Quan. I love ya, man, but you seriously need to pay attention to the current discussion.I have been talking about Shadow Beasts this entire time.
Or Twilight takes Gandalf's light, if you're so intent on that being a thing.
But no, the game shows that the light does not need to be stolen in order for twilight to be used. It's the cutscene where you first meet Zelda, for crying out loud.
No, it doesn't since light defeats them or makes the twilight field irrelevant.
By powerful artifacts you use light in order to defeat it. It can only be used in massive areas when you steal the light. Many Potter characters can change shapes from animals easily. In Hyrule it is a big deal.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I know you have but we lack all context about what actually hit them.
This did.
No, it doesn't since light defeats them or makes the twilight field irrelevant.
Not light, no. Only a specific light known as the life force of the gods. You are aware that the light spirits don't use normal light, don't you? O mean it's what powers the evil banishing part of the light arrows, after all.
By powerful artifacts you use light in order to defeat it. It can only be used in massive areas when you steal the light. Many Potter characters can change shapes from animals easily. In Hyrule it is a big deal.🙂
That only applies to Hyrule, though, since Hyrule has light spirits protecting it. LotR has no light spirits, so it has no protection, so it get covered in twilight.
What?
Barns, the bomb maker and only person who has bombs, states that hos bombs are useless in the face of TwiBeasts which he says are too strong.. and this isn't context?
Originally posted by quanchi112As Scene's been posting, the triforce is proven to harm them.
Where is it stated it amps power or strength in wolf form ?
Originally posted by The ScenarioWe don't know how much of the bombs hit them. We know what the bombs can do to that but not the Twibeasts.
This did.Not light, no. Only a specific light known as the life force of the gods. You are aware that the light spirits don't use normal light, don't you? O mean it's what powers the evil banishing part of the light arrows, after all.
That only applies to Hyrule, though, since Hyrule has light spirits protecting it. LotR has no light spirits, so it has no protection, so it get covered in twilight.
No,the word light was used not light of the gods. You're very biased and try to pick and choose while hyping hyperbole. Hyperbole is the sign of an awful debater.
Middle earth doesn't need light spirits to supply the light. That is the difference.
Owned.
Originally posted by BloodRainIt is like saying Sentry stalemated Galactus. It lacks the context of what actually happened.
What?Barns, the bomb maker and only person who has bombs, states that hos bombs are useless in the face of TwiBeasts which he says are too strong.. and this isn't context?
As Scene's been posting, the triforce is proven to harm them.
We see many things harm them. The bombs can harm them but in groups they all have to be put down together even when against a Triforce user. Why doesn't that matter against the bombs ?
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Originally posted by quanchi112Wrong on several levels;
It is like saying Sentry stalemated Galactus. It lacks the context of what actually happened.We see many things harm them. The bombs can harm them but in groups they all have to be put down together even when against a Triforce user. Why doesn't that matter against the bombs ?
These are the known facts;
1. Barns is the bomb-maker, so he knows his stuff.
2. Barns was defending the area from TwiBeasts.
3. Barns states that the TwiBeasts are unimpressed by his bombs.
4. Barns comments on the fact that this was due to them being so strong.
So again, what context are you missing here?
Together because they scream to pick up fallen comrades. If they fell to the bombs Barns wouldn't have said they're too strong for them, and are unphased. So yeah, only things shown to attack them are the Triforce and bombs.
Originally posted by BloodRainAny character can be weaker or stronger. Acting like people go from 100 percent to 20 and nowhere in between while acting like it only applies to Galactus is funny.
Wrong on several levels;
1. Galactus can be stronger or weaker due to states or personal desires. Unlike him, the TwiBeasts only have the single state and beastly desires.
2. There could be factors affecting Sentry. Unlike an actual character, a bomb is a bomb.
3. To fit the example, Reed would have to be the observer to the fight
4. Dozens of pre-existing feats outright state that there must be a reason for Sentry to stalemate Galactus. This is the TwiBeasts only feat, so nothing contradicts it.These are the known facts;
1. Barns is the bomb-maker, so he knows his stuff.
2. Barns was defending the area from TwiBeasts.
3. Barns states that the TwiBeasts are unimpressed by his bombs.
4. Barns comments on the fact that this was due to them being so strong.So again, what context are you missing here?
Together because they scream to pick up fallen comrades. If they fell to the bombs Barns wouldn't have said they're too strong for them, and are unphased. So yeah, only things shown to attack them are the Triforce and bombs.
All bombs aren't equal. Don't be silly.
They resisted them but need to be killed in groups or else they keep coming. They do this against the Triforce as well so without the context it isn't impressive at all since they come back.
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Originally posted by BloodRainYes, I have. Unless you destroy the last of the beasts together they don't stop. Even the Toc and Link can't overcome this.
Yes, but bombs arent characters. And TwiBeasts are the same as feral animals.Lol Barns's bombs are, the only kind even. Have you ever played this game?
Yes, only against the Triforce. Thanks for admitting this?
I said a tri amped Link has been shown to attack them which is stating a fact. You don't even comprehend what it is I am saying. Without seeing them we know they can come back unless the final two are killed at the same time.
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So you know that at that point he only creates a single type of bomb.
Okay.. Link with the TF has attacked them.. when has anyone said otherwise, or what does this have to do with the TF being the only things shown to damage them?
Re:Lol. What did Barns say? Read Scene's scans, and look at what he said. Did he say "we knocked one down but another just brought it back"? Or did he say.. "the bombs worked! But only for a while.."?
He said it was unimpressed by the bombs.
