Lotr (movie universe) vs. Twilight Princess

Started by BloodRain35 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is only comparing force. That isn't the only way it's done. Bombs are more powerful than wolf bites.

Due to the light being stolen. Twibeasts can exist before but they can't blanket Hyrule until the light is stolen.

I never said they couldn't. Try and pay attention. 😂


And what does that tell you?

They did in that vid :T

So invasion?

Originally posted by BloodRain
And what does that tell you?

They did in that vid :T

So invasion?

They can invade but will get stomped. Beating down Hyrule isn't the same thing as Middle Earth. Hylian army is a joke.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. As wolf teeth can but lack the destructive power of a bomb. Quit picking and choosing and being silly.

No, it doesn't it is just something which gives him added protection as the hero of destiny. It doesn't make him stronger.

I didn't say it made him stronger. I said it allows him to hurt Shadow Beasts, where bombs fail. Otherwise, Shadow Beasts are immune to normal human strength because they resist bombs.


You already conceded the point.

I don't...care?


It is necessary to blanket the land in twilight which has been my point the entire time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They can invade but will get stomped. Beating down Hyrule isn't the same thing as Middle Earth. Hylian army is a joke.
Remind me how may attacks are more powerful than bombs?

It is necessary to blanket the land in twilight which has been my point the entire time.

Whoops, missed this by accident.

Anyway, you don't seem to understand how the Light Spirits work. They are a defense that needs to be removed, not a vulnerability.

I mean, imagine there's a force field around something. You need to remove the force field before you can shoot what it protects, right? That's the Light Spirits.

Your argument makes no sense because it boils down to, "LotR has no force field, therefore they can't be shot."

Originally posted by The Scenario
I didn't say it made him stronger. I said it allows him to hurt Shadow Beasts, where bombs fail. Otherwise, Shadow Beasts are immune to normal human strength because they resist bombs.

I don't...care?

There is no proof to any of these theories. Just because someone survives some thing doesn't make them immune to all force equal or lesser than.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Whoops, missed this by accident.

Anyway, you don't seem to understand how the Light Spirits work. They are a defense that needs to be removed, not a vulnerability.

I mean, imagine there's a force field around something. You need to remove the force field before you can shoot what it protects, right? That's the Light Spirits.

Your argument makes no sense because it boils down to, "LotR has no force field, therefore they can't be shot."

Incorrect. You'd have a point if they could blanket Hyrule in twilight minus stealing the light. That's the only way they can do so. This doesn't work in other fictional worlds. Returning light defeats this crapola.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is no proof to any of these theories. Just because someone survives some thing doesn't make them immune to all force equal or lesser than.

That's what a durability feat is. And really, you think they just "survived" it? As stated, the Shadow Beasts were unimpressed and shrugged it off. Being completely undamaged by something does in fact mean that you'll also be undamaged by lesser forces.

Incorrect. You'd have a point if they could blanket Hyrule in twilight minus stealing the light. That's the only way they can do so. This doesn't work in other fictional worlds. Returning light defeats this crapola.

No, you're still saying that you can only shoot people if you've shot someone in a force field.

Seriously, think about it. Forcefield/light spirit stops bullets/twilight. So you remove the forcefield/light spirit to take away that protection. Now, there's nothing to stop twilight/bullets from affecting your target.

Lord of the Rings has no force field, so they're far easier to shoot. Because you don't have to remove it first.

Originally posted by The Scenario
That's what a durability feat is. And really, you think they just "survived" it? As stated, the Shadow Beasts were unimpressed and shrugged it off. Being completely undamaged by something does in fact mean that you'll also be undamaged by lesser forces.

No, you're still saying that you can only shoot people if you've shot someone in a force field.

Seriously, think about it. Forcefield/light spirit stops bullets/twilight. So you remove the forcefield/light spirit to take away that protection. Now, there's nothing to stop twilight/bullets from affecting your target.

Lord of the Rings has no force field, so they're far easier to shoot. Because you don't have to remove it first.

A durability feat isn't an impervious feat. That's the problem with your entire argument. We don't know he was undamaged. We just know it didn't defeat him. There is a quite a difference between something hurting you and defeating you in combat.

False. We see light restored beat the twilight transformation. All it takes is light and setting the world out of balance by stealing the light spirits light.

That doesn't apply to respectable fictional worlds.

There is a quite a difference between something hurting you and defeating you in combat.

Can you elaborate on this (which I assume is the same as the 'If I can tank a punch..' lines)?

Because the point itself is sound, but not the scale of the damage itself. (E.g Tanking a heavy weight boxers punch then taking a school kids hits)

Edit: Btw they say that the Twibeasts weren't phased by the bombs.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Can you elaborate on this (which I assume is the same as the 'If I can tank a punch..' lines)?

Because the point itself is sound, but not the scale of the damage itself. (E.g Tanking a heavy weight boxers punch then taking a school kids hits)

Edit: Btw they say that the Twibeasts weren't phased by the bombs.

Entirely different and we aren't looking at the angle of the punch, skill of the puncher, level of awareness in defense, etc.

...Okay, then elaborate the point.

Originally posted by BloodRain
...Okay, then elaborate the point.
That the two situations aren't exactly the same so trying to equate all these things on a generalized basis is ignorant.

When has anyone stated that attacks far weaker than what they've taken would do absolutely nothing? Don't recall anyone saying things like 'impervious' as a pro argument..

We all know it would, just to a minor extent.

Originally posted by BloodRain
When has anyone stated that attacks far weaker than what they've taken would do absolutely nothing? Don't recall anyone saying things like 'impervious' as a pro argument..

We all know it would, just to a minor extent.

No, it isn't. Its bad form and one scene can be misinterpreted into something entirely different. That's the Zelda fanbase in a nutshell.

Okay your replies are getting a tad.. off. What is "No, it isn't" in response to?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Okay your replies are getting a tad.. off. What is "No, it isn't" in response to?
I am saying we have to,look at all showings not just a few while ignoring the rest.

Okay, what are all the showings that contrast the bomb? Putting out there that the bomb part came from a cutscene, one of the highest canon statuses.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Okay, what are all the showings that contrast the bomb? Putting out there that the bomb part came from a cutscene, one of the highest canon statuses.
Wolf bite.

Triforce.