Lotr (movie universe) vs. Twilight Princess

Started by quanchi11235 pages

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Gannondorf creates force fields around everyone's castles, raises the dead, turns bandits to his side, persuades some orcs to come to his side. Makes a punk out of the Witch King by touching his face. Makes Minus Tiruth crumble. Takes on Beast Form and Wrecks the Balrog. Ganondorf was made for Lotr universe.
And yet a few sages beat him. Then a 17 year old with a few weeks experience crushed him in combat.

😆 😂

Sauron wrecks him. Personally.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No limits fallacy. Nothing to support it. A simple wolf can do so.

What part of it is a no limits fallacy?

The part where Shadow Beasts are canonically immune to bomb blasts capable of shattering boulders?

Or the part where Shadow Beasts turn everyone they kill into another Shadow Beast?

Perhaps it's the part where Shadow Beasts have the ability to revive their dead with a scream?

Honestly, Lord of the Rings is unprepared to deal with a apocalypse on the scale the Shadow Beasts will bring.

Originally posted by The Scenario
What part of it is a no limits fallacy?

The part where Shadow Beasts are canonically immune to bomb blasts capable of shattering boulders?

Or the part where Shadow Beasts turn everyone they kill into another Shadow Beast?

Perhaps it's the part where Shadow Beasts have the ability to revive their dead with a scream?

Honestly, Lord of the Rings is unprepared to deal with a apocalypse on the scale the Shadow Beasts will bring.

That doesn't mean anything. Taking a punch doesn't mean I am impervious to punches.

They can't kill the ghosts. 😂

Ghost army kills them altogether.

Lol. Link solos them. This army is pathetic. You were arguing invisibility solos when clearly you don't have a clue about anything Lotr related.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't mean anything. Taking a punch doesn't mean I am impervious to punches.

They can't kill the ghosts. 😂

Ghost army kills them altogether.

Lol. Link solos them. This army is pathetic. You were arguing invisibility solos when clearly you don't have a clue about anything Lotr related.


They can kill ghosts. I've said this. They kill the villages in kakariko when they turn into phantoms when twilight falls. Plus Twili beasts and the Wolf form are of the same calibur. And the wolf kills 60 ghosts in that game. They will rip the souls out of them.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
They can kill ghosts. I've said this. They kill the villages in kakariko when they turn into phantoms when twilight falls. Plus Twili beasts and the Wolf form are of the same calibur. And the wolf kills 60 ghosts in that game. They will rip the souls out of them.
Not the ghosts. Not as formidable as these ghosts nor as quickly. Over tens of thousands of warriors, Smaug, Balrog, trolls, eagles, spiders, all overwhelm Hyrule.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not the ghosts. Not as formidable as these ghosts nor as quickly. Over tens of thousands of warriors, Smaug, Balrog, trolls, eagles, spiders, all overwhelm Hyrule.

Even if they take Hyrule (considering its TP hyrule they probably could, the soldiers are crap. It comes down to Link taking the Ring to Mordor (or helping Frodo take it). He is incorruptible, has 20 lives and weilds the Master Sword, the Bane of 'ALL' Evil. The Ring would just sit there and shut up in fear of it. As soon as Link destroys it, Sauron gone and his army diminishes into rabble. Link saves Middle Earth and Hyrule!

Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't mean anything. Taking a punch doesn't mean I am impervious to punches.

They can't kill the ghosts. 😂

Ghost army kills them altogether.

Lol. Link solos them. This army is pathetic. You were arguing invisibility solos when clearly you don't have a clue about anything Lotr related.

Taking a bomb means you're impervious to punches, though. Plus, not only can Shadow Beasts kill ghosts, the ghosts can't hurt them back because their durability. Shadow Beast apocalypse overwhelms Middle Earth.

Quote where I said invisibility solos.

Its a beautiful thing.

A cloud of smoke erupting with TwiBeasts charging, tanking the vast majority of attacks thrown their way. And after slaying so many foes they zombie up and become TwiBeasts themselves.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Over tens of thousands of warriors,

Twilight field renders them helpless or turns them into Shadow Beasts.

Smaug,

Link, Ganondorf, Zant or Midna can kill him.

Balrog,

Link, Ganondorf, Zant or Midna can kill it.


trolls, eagles, spiders,.

Twilight field transforms into twili under Ganondorf and Zant's control.

gg, LotR.

Whoops, I forgot Zelda.

I think she'd probably just go full Bard on Smaug anyway.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Even if they take Hyrule (considering its TP hyrule they probably could, the soldiers are crap. It comes down to Link taking the Ring to Mordor (or helping Frodo take it). He is incorruptible, has 20 lives and weilds the Master Sword, the Bane of 'ALL' Evil. The Ring would just sit there and shut up in fear of it. As soon as Link destroys it, Sauron gone and his army diminishes into rabble. Link saves Middle Earth and Hyrule!
Sauron has the ring on. There is also the legions of good guys not just the side of Mordor. I have left out two powerhouses as well as the ghost army.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Taking a bomb means you're impervious to punches, though. Plus, not only can Shadow Beasts kill ghosts, the ghosts can't hurt them back because their durability. Shadow Beast apocalypse overwhelms Middle Earth.

Quote where I said invisibility solos.

No, it doesn't. It's like saying I survived this bomb so knives can't cut me. They have crap durability due to biting crushing them.

You acted like its some awesome power which would be something middle Earth couldn't account for.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Twilight field renders them helpless or turns them into Shadow Beasts.

Link, Ganondorf, Zant or Midna can kill him.

Link, Ganondorf, Zant or Midna can kill it.

Twilight field transforms into twili under Ganondorf and Zant's control.

gg, LotR.

No, it doesn't since their light cannot be stolen. Same old silliness.

No,they can't. No, they can't.

No, it doesn't. Light is all that is required on,y if it is taken can this occur. They don't have light which can be stolen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't. It's like saying I survived this bomb so knives can't cut me. They have crap durability due to biting crushing them.

It's more like saying "This bomb that exploded on my face didn't hurt me at all, so normal human pinches won't hurt me either."

Wolf Link has Triforce power backing him, as shown when he first transformed and hurt a Shadow Beast without even touching it.


You acted like its some awesome power which would be something middle Earth couldn't account for.

I asked if they had a direct counter for it, and pointed out that people feared the power. Nothing more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't since their light cannot be stolen. Same old silliness.

No,they can't. No, they can't.

No, it doesn't. Light is all that is required on,y if it is taken can this occur. They don't have light which can be stolen.

Light doesn't need to be stolen, you would know this if you played Twilight Princess.

Twilight destroys any numerical advantage LotR had, and Shadow Beasts clean up the mess.

Originally posted by The Scenario
It's more like saying "This bomb that exploded on my face didn't hurt me at all, so normal human pinches won't hurt me either."

Wolf Link has Triforce power backing him, as shown when he first transformed and hurt a Shadow Beast without even touching it.

I asked if they had a direct counter for it, and pointed out that people feared the power. Nothing more.

Light doesn't need to be stolen, you would know this if you played Twilight Princess.

Twilight destroys any numerical advantage LotR had, and Shadow Beasts clean up the mess.

It is like saying a punch didn't hurt me so choking me won't kill me kind of nonsense.

Prove the Triforce makes Link stronger. It is a Triforce of courage not power.

It was one invisible foe try and be serious.

They stole the light from the light spirits and after it is returned they can't return Hyrule into a land minus the light. I did play the game. It was laughably bad. You need to watch these movies and quit debating out of bias. You don't even know what the competition is which is the definition of ignorance and bias.

It is like saying a punch didn't hurt me so choking me won't kill me kind of nonsense.

Lolwat?

If you throw a grenade and it explodes in someones face, who then brushes the dirt off his face, what will happen when you punch him in the face?

They stole the light from the light spirits and after it is returned they can't return Hyrule into a land minus the light.

If you played the game you'd know that the scene following that gif is where Zant blankets Hyrule in Twilight. Meaning the Twibeasts came before that.

Geez, even in game the Twibeasts appear outside of Twilight covered areas..

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is like saying a punch didn't hurt me so choking me won't kill me kind of nonsense.

No, it's literally saying that if a bomb can't hurt a Shadow Beast then neither will a sword wielded by a human without super strength. It has nothing to do with any indirect method of murder.


Prove the Triforce makes Link stronger. It is a Triforce of courage not power.

Before I do this, allow to reiterate that my claim is Link's Triforce piece lets him hurt Shadow Beasts. I said nothing about making Link stronger. In any case, here is proof that the Triforce of Courage can hurt evil creatures:


It was one invisible foe try and be serious.

I never said he could solo, please stop putting words in my mouth.


They stole the light from the light spirits and after it is returned they can't return Hyrule into a land minus the light. I did play the game. It was laughably bad. You need to watch these movies and quit debating out of bias. You don't even know what the competition is which is the definition of ignorance and bias.

Your post is confusing primarily because you seem to be switching the subject mid sentence. You seem to be referring to two different groups as "they" and I have no idea who the second group is. Presumably the Hylians, but then I don't where turnin Hyrule 'into a land' comes from.

Anyway, the game outright shows that the Light Spirits are guardians and not some kind of world pillars. Taking the light away allows removes their protection, but it's also clearly shown that light and twilight can exist at the same time. As BR says, in that very scene we see Shadow Beasts active in the light world before the light is taken. It outright proves that taking the light is helpful, but not required for twilight to exist.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Lolwat?

If you throw a grenade and it explodes in someones face, who then brushes the dirt off his face, what will happen when you punch him in the face?

If you played the game you'd know that the scene following that gif is where Zant blankets Hyrule in Twilight. Meaning the Twibeasts came before that.

Geez, even in game the Twibeasts appear outside of Twilight covered areas..

That is only comparing force. That isn't the only way it's done. Bombs are more powerful than wolf bites.

Due to the light being stolen. Twibeasts can exist before but they can't blanket Hyrule until the light is stolen.

I never said they couldn't. Try and pay attention. 😂

Originally posted by The Scenario
No, it's literally saying that if a bomb can't hurt a Shadow Beast then neither will a sword wielded by a human without super strength. It has nothing to do with any indirect method of murder.

Before I do this, allow to reiterate that my claim is Link's Triforce piece lets him hurt Shadow Beasts. I said nothing about making Link stronger. In any case, here is proof that the Triforce of Courage can hurt evil creatures:

I never said he could solo, please stop putting words in my mouth.

Your post is confusing primarily because you seem to be switching the subject mid sentence. You seem to be referring to two different groups as "they" and I have no idea who the second group is. Presumably the Hylians, but then I don't where turnin Hyrule 'into a land' comes from.

Anyway, the game outright shows that the Light Spirits are guardians and not some kind of world pillars. Taking the light away allows removes their protection, but it's also clearly shown that light and twilight can exist at the same time. As BR says, in that very scene we see Shadow Beasts active in the light world before the light is taken. It outright proves that taking the light is helpful, but not required for twilight to exist.

False. As wolf teeth can but lack the destructive power of a bomb. Quit picking and choosing and being silly.

No, it doesn't it is just something which gives him added protection as the hero of destiny. It doesn't make him stronger.

You already conceded the point.

It is necessary to blanket the land in twilight which has been my point the entire time.