Defenders vs HP Doomsday

Started by jaxthejester15 pages
Originally posted by carver9
It was more.people than that. That was the beginning squad.

I know bud.

But if you put out too much Hulk goodness all at once, the Thanos and Superfans on this site really wig out.

It's better to introduce them to Gamma Rage in small doses, lol.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yeah a [b]holding back team of avengers vs bath hulk [/B]

bath hulk? 😕

Originally posted by jaxthejester
bath hulk? 😕

nutrient bath hulk

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
nutrient bath hulk

Ah, gotcha.

At first, I thought you pictured Hulk facing them after being forced to take a "traditional" bath.

Savage Hulk: Why you clean Hulk? Hulk like dirty! Smash!!!

😂

Originally posted by jaxthejester
Ah, gotcha.

At first, I thought you pictured Hulk facing them after being forced to take a "traditional" bath.

[B]Savage Hulk: Why you clean Hulk? Hulk like dirty! Smash!!!

😂 [/B]

😆 Hulk has to be clean 😛

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yeah a [b]holding back team of avengers vs bath hulk [/B]

Lets not pretend like the JLA wasn't holding back against Doomsday. That why Superman was able to kill him off by himself.

I would also like to add that Supes was the most powerful member of the JLA that DD beat, and in that particular story he was portrayed as being so slow that it took him and DD a couple of issues to cross the country to Metropolis and so weak that he was KO'd along with Maxima by the exploding gas station. Other than those two there was Guy Gardener who was portrayed so poorly that his ring tapped out on power at the same time that chick Fire did, and Martian Manhunter who actually got taken out by being thrown into a large fire. And that's ignoring the fact that Mr "never holds back" DD couldn't manage to kill Blue Beetle with a sustained beating, Booster Gold(who was by his own admission, less useful than Pee Wee Herman without his suit charged) with a sustained beating that ended with Boosters head getting slammed in a car door by Doomsday, or an off panel solo beating of Ice that ended with her getting thrown through a wall of a house. In other words, you could totally put Hulk in the story and have him duplicate DD's performance if the JLA were portrayed at that level of power/ability.

Team wrecks him

Originally posted by Naija boy
Team wrecks him
I don't think so. They have to overcome his durability which is very hard considering his feats against superior energy projection. Second, they have to deal with him healing instantly. No progress gets made if he heals completely. Third, they have to deal with his speed, which buys him time to heal. Fourth, the have to deal with his adapting on the fly powers. He becomes more resistant against their attacks as the battle goes on. Finally, they have to deal with his incredible strength combined with his bony protrusions. He can literally one shot kill some members on the team by sending a claw through their brain, or stabbing them in a vital area with his knee bone or elbow bone.

Originally posted by carver9
I would also like to add that Supes was the most powerful member of the JLA that DD beat, and in that particular story he was portrayed as being so slow that it took him and DD a couple of issues to cross the country to Metropolis and so weak that he was KO'd along with Maxima by the exploding gas station. Other than those two there was Guy Gardener who was portrayed so poorly that his ring tapped out on power at the same time that chick Fire did, and Martian Manhunter who actually got taken out by being thrown into a large fire. And that's ignoring the fact that Mr "never holds back" DD couldn't manage to kill Blue Beetle with a sustained beating, Booster Gold(who was by his own admission, less useful than Pee Wee Herman without his suit charged) with a sustained beating that ended with Boosters head getting slammed in a car door by Doomsday, or an off panel solo beating of Ice that ended with her getting thrown through a wall of a house. In other words, you could totally put Hulk in the story and have him duplicate DD's performance if the JLA were portrayed at that level of power/ability.

You do know it was retcon right? There fight actually shook the Earth i believe.

Originally posted by SquallX
You do know it was retcon right? There fight actually shook the Earth i believe.

What was retconned?

Originally posted by carver9
I would also like to add that Supes was the most powerful member of the JLA that DD beat, and in that particular story he was portrayed as being so slow that it took him and DD a couple of issues to cross the country to Metropolis and so weak that he was KO'd along with Maxima by the exploding gas station. Other than those two there was Guy Gardener who was portrayed so poorly that his ring tapped out on power at the same time that chick Fire did, and Martian Manhunter who actually got taken out by being thrown into a large fire. And that's ignoring the fact that Mr "never holds back" DD couldn't manage to kill Blue Beetle with a sustained beating, Booster Gold(who was by his own admission, less useful than Pee Wee Herman without his suit charged) with a sustained beating that ended with Boosters head getting slammed in a car door by Doomsday, or an off panel solo beating of Ice that ended with her getting thrown through a wall of a house. In other words, you could totally put Hulk in the story and have him duplicate DD's performance if the JLA were portrayed at that level of power/ability.

facepalm

Superman and Doomsday's punches destroyed windows from Metropolis to Gotham.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/striking/DayOfDoom02a.jpg

Doomsday was hitting so hard while getting free that he was causing seismic activities all over the country.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/WeakenedDoomsdayGettingFree.jpg

Their final blows rocked entire earth to its core.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/ShakingPlanetCore.jpg

The same superman by the same writer aka Dan Jurgens survived the molten core of Almerac which is several times bigger than earth and then pulled one of its continental plates to restore its orbit, the other two were pulled by Maxima and Bloodwynd. All while nearly depowered. Just four issues earlier from DOS.

Not to mention using this kind of reasoning is ****ing stupid. WBH himself attacked Miek and couldn't kill him while he was wrecking eastern seaboard in WWH 5 and when he was empowered by several gamma bombs his attacks didn't cause anything at all.

Hulk would get KTFO by a combined blast by Superman, Martian Manhunter, Guy Gardner, Fire and Booster. Any single top tier would, Guy alone was oneshotting Captain Atom, Wonder Woman and Maxima with sinestro ring.

Let it go, Abhi. Just accept that a weaker version of Supes shook the Earth to its core. Had it been a different writer, DC Earth would have been...broken.

Nothing ABHI said changed any of my points. Everything that I typed was shown on panel.

Also, when did WBH punch Miek? Scans.

He never did. He was Bruce, punched the sh1t out of Miek, then went World Breaker.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Let it go, Abhi. Just accept that a weaker version of Supes shook the Earth to its core. Had it been a different writer, DC Earth would have been...broken.

Of course.
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing ABHI said changed any of my points. Everything that I typed was shown on panel.

Also, when did WBH punch Miek? Scans.


Of course. You know it was death of superman, not death of Superman, Guy Gardner, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle, right? Characters survive these kinds of attacks all the time. Batman survived a bloodlusted superman attacking him and HVing him. Its called character shield.

Read WWH 5 when Miek stabbed Rick Jones.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course.
Of course. You know it was death of superman, not death of Superman, Guy Gardner, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle, right? Characters survive these kinds of attacks all the time. Batman survived a bloodlusted superman attacking him and HVing him. Its called character shield.

Read WWH 5 when Miek stabbed Rick Jones.

The team jobbed and they didn't appear to be as powerful as they should be. If they were operating near those levels they were at in DOS while fighting Hulk, yes, he would make it a fight.

Also, show me World breaker Hulk.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh028.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh029.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh030.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh031.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh032.jpg

Once youre done showing me that, I want you to show me where Hulk didn't harm him. Every punch WORLD WAR HULK landed on Miek knocked chunks out of him. If this was anyone else, they would have died...Miek physique kept him alive.

Originally posted by carver9
The team jobbed and they didn't appear to be as powerful as they should be. If they were operating near those levels they were at in DOS while fighting Hulk, yes, he would make it a fight.

Also, show me World breaker Hulk.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh028.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh029.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh030.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh031.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh032.jpg

Once youre done showing me that, I want you to show me where Hulk didn't harm him. Every punch WORLD WAR HULK landed on Miek knocked chunks out of him. If this was anyone else, they would have died...Miek physique kept him alive.


If it was a pre-established character, you could've made a case about jobbing. It wasn't, it was a new character taking their full powered blasts without even blinking.

Miek is not even a class 10 character. He is a brood the likes of which get slaughtered by X-men like nothing. But he took more punches from Hulk than anybody else in WWH. That's called character shield bro. Arguing that doomsday didn't kill Guy, Booster or Beetle due to lack of strength is ****ing retarded. He killed superman in the same series FFS.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He never did. He was Bruce, punched the sh1t out of Miek, then went World Breaker.

He was angrier than ever after Miek stabbed Rick even though he wasn't world breaker yet. But that's not the point, Hulk at a calm state nearly crushed Hercules' skull with three punches but Miek, a Brood survived several attacks from him?

Also, Miek's no Brood.