Defenders vs HP Doomsday

Started by Rao Kal El15 pages
Originally posted by carver9
I would also like to add that Supes was the most powerful member of the JLA that DD beat, and in that particular story he was portrayed as being so slow that it took him and DD a couple of issues to cross the country to Metropolis and so weak that he was KO'd along with Maxima by the exploding gas station.

The level of your ignorance is incredible, by the time DOS happened Flash was at best portrayed often at supersonic speeds, but you would not know that, because you have not read any of those comics, so Doomsday was portrayed to be fast enough to fight vs Superman and being compared by others as faster than the Flash, being KO'ed by a gas station is due to being in the middle of a fight vs Doomsday which by itself should be enough to one shot a lot of members of the league, add the gas station explosio and then you have a reason to get battle damage enough, to get KO, is not only a gas station, you are ignoring the CONTEXT that they are fighting Doomsday, but ignoring CONTEXT is something you do quite often.

Originally posted by carver9
Other than those two there was Guy Gardener who was portrayed so poorly that his ring tapped out on power at the same time that chick Fire did,

I will get you that, Guy gardner was poorly displayed, pretty much like what marvel does when THOR or Sentry faces the HULK, if you accept this as true, then you should drop the double standards and concede that Thor and Sentry and a lot of top tiers are dumbed down when facing the Hulk. But Guy Gardner actually said that he was caught by surprise by Doomsday's speed

Originally posted by carver9
and Martian Manhunter who actually got taken out by being thrown into a large fire.

LOL, "large fire" more likely and explosion of a refinery and he was covered in flamable oil , so 😂 and yes, MMH should have been taken out by that, but actually Jurgens brought him back to the fight shortly after he survived that Explosion and was covered by burning flamable oil

Originally posted by carver9
And that's ignoring the fact that Mr "never holds back" DD couldn't manage to kill Blue Beetle with a sustained beating,

lol so you are pointing out that Jurgens let Beetle live? because the steel pipe was getting bend, but the skull of beetle was not crushed. yeah I agree Jurgerns saved beetle just like he saved the rest of the league from death, after all this arc was titled DOS not "Death of the JLA" after all Gardner was already out of the fight and Doomsday just conveniently got distracted by fire so He did not killed Garner. Yeah Jurgens actually "amped" bettle beyond steel density in order for him to survive Doomsday

Originally posted by carver9
Booster Gold(who was by his own admission, less useful than Pee Wee Herman without his suit charged) with a sustained beating that ended with Boosters head getting slammed in a car door by Doomsday, or an off panel solo beating of Ice that ended with her getting thrown through a wall of a house.

Again so Jurgens amped Booster gold to survive the beating as his skull was stronger than a three and his windpipe can survive a door slammed on his neck, that or the door and the three were made out of foam. Also Jurgens has stated the he defeats CHUMPS out of panel, just like King Thor defeated Hulk and Thing, because they are not worth panel time. 😉

Originally posted by carver9
In other words, you could totally put Hulk in the story and have him duplicate DD's performance if the JLA were portrayed at that level of power/ability.

Translation, "In other words, I don't have anything the equivalent of Hulk defeating an avengers team with one hand tied behind his back, so let me try to lowball the team and add some ol' wish full thinking for the Hulk"

and way to try to divert attention, so where is the evidence of Hulk performing the equvalent of DD's feat?, not the same because that will be impossible, but a similar/equivalent feat

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, Miek's no Brood.

Miek's a brood.

uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
If it was a pre-established character, you could've made a case about jobbing. It wasn't, it was a new character taking their full powered blasts without even blinking.

Miek is not even a class 10 character. He is a brood the likes of which get slaughtered by X-men like nothing. But he took more punches from Hulk than anybody else in WWH. That's called character shield bro. Arguing that doomsday didn't kill Guy, Booster or Beetle due to lack of strength is ****ing retarded. He killed superman in the same series FFS.

It isn't adding up though but whatever...I'm not going to continue with that topic, don't want a mod coming in here warning the both of us.

I will talk about the Hulk and Miek comment though. Do you not see the damage Hulks fist did to Miek. He was literally punching chunks out of him...blood was every where. It doesn't matter if he was a class 10 or not (even though he was)...anyone else put in that spot would have died. Hell, Miek died from those hits. Miek physique kept him alive...he is a freaking roach. You using that scene as an argument isn't helping you bro. Try something else.

@Rao...

Why is your post so long? I will reply to all of that later.

Originally posted by carver9
Lets not pretend like the JLA wasn't holding back against Doomsday. That why Superman was able to kill him off by himself.

Superman probably at the start, that, or he just showed his dynamic strength to keep up with DD's dynamic strength, 😉

but the rest?

Originally posted by carver9
@Rao...

Why is your post so long? I will reply to all of that later.

Np, I understand that you have other things to do, just like the rest of us.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Superman probably at the start, that or he just showed his dynamic strength to keep up with DD's dynamic strength, 😉

but the rest?

Don't get why you posted that when you know Hulk has survived worse.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Np, I understand that you have other things to do, just like the rest of us.

Im just at work right now. I will be off in an hour though which would give me some time to rip your post apart. Be scared my friend.

Originally posted by carver9
Im just at work right now. I will be off in an hour though which would give me some time to rip your post apart. Be scared my friend.

😂 scared of you, don't make me laugh.

You should be thankful that at some points I have a lot of work and it does not allows me to go through all my collection of Hulk comics just to expose all your lies.

But hopefully you will show the scan equivalent of DD defeating a the JLA team with one hand and surviving that all out blast.

Otherwise We will get into the regular merry go round, you like to play in.

Originally posted by carver9
It isn't adding up though but whatever...I'm not going to continue with that topic, don't want a mod coming in here warning the both of us.

I will talk about the Hulk and Miek comment though. Do you not see the damage Hulks fist did to Miek. He was literally punching chunks out of him...blood was every where. It doesn't matter if he was a class 10 or not (even though he was)...anyone else put in that spot would have died. Hell, Miek died from those hits. Miek physique kept him alive...he is a freaking roach. You using that scene as an argument isn't helping you bro. Try something else.


So beating a brood with almost a dozen punches means he can kill anybody? Should I post Rogue oneshot killing Broods with ms marvel's strength and prove she is stronger than WWH?

mmm

Originally posted by carver9
Don't get why you posted that when you know Hulk has survived worse.

Are you playing around? You said the JLA was holding back, that scan proves you wrong.

Or you already forgot you said this?

Originally posted by carver9
Lets not pretend like the JLA wasn't holding back against Doomsday. That why Superman was able to kill him off by himself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So beating a brood with almost a dozen punches means he can kill anybody? Should I post Rogue oneshot killing Broods with ms marvel's strength and prove she is stronger than WWH?

mmm

He isn't a brood and I want you to post someone within the class 10 range surviving holes being punched through their body on multiples of occasions.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Are you playing around? You said the JLA was holding back, that scan proves you wrong.

Or you already forgot you said this?

Where is it stated they were going all out? All of them.

*continues to secretly post feats*

Originally posted by carver9
Where is it stated they were going all out? All of them.

"hit him with all we got"

Do you want me explain the sentence?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
"hit him with all we got"

Do you want me explain the sentence?

Booster Gold said that (and we all know how cocky he is). I will respond in an hour with posts and scans my friend.

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
*continues to secretly post feats*

That's nice an everything but DD's skin did not even got damaged by an explosion that open a hole in space.

Originally posted by carver9
He isn't a brood and I want you to post someone within the class 10 range surviving holes being punched through their body on multiples of occasions.

😂

Oh yeah, I mistook No Name with Miek. He was an insectoid whose race was slaughtered by Sakaar's general populace. Guess they are more powerful than Hulk too.

mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Oh yeah, I mistook No Name with Miek. He was an insectoid whose race was slaughtered by Sakaar's general populace. Guess they are more powerful than Hulk too.

mmm

So you have scans of someone within the class 10 range surviving holes being punched in them. Your boy can't even survive having holes punched through his body...Miek did though. I dont get where you are going with this. Hulk fist and ft did a lot of damage to Miek...damage that would have killed anyone else without the possession of an insane healing factor.

Originally posted by carver9
Where is it stated they were going all out? All of them.

"All of our powers combined" as stated by Bloodwynd in the previous page.

But that's not enough, it is?