Defenders vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by carver9
So you have scans of someone within the class 10 range surviving holes being punched in them. Your boy can't even survive having holes punched through his body...Miek did though. I dont get where you are going with this. Hulk fist and ft did a lot of damage to Miek...damage that would have killed anyone else without the possession of an insane healing factor.

BTW a more powerful Miek was beaten by Amadeus Cho in Chaos War. He fell to death from a mountain in Savage Land.

😂

@ABHI..

Yeah, it's enough...means the attack was extremely powerful but it doesn't mean they were trying to kill him...except Booster Gold of course. Superman started going all out during the end of the battle...he knew he had too bc if not, all of his friends would have been at risk, including the planet.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I do. Miek did while his race was killed by random Sakaarins. What a feeb that hulk is!!!

BTW a more powerful Miek was beaten by Amadeus Cho in Chaos War. He fell to death from a mountain in Savage Land.

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I never said Miek couldn't die. I'm asking you to show me someone surviving holes punched through his body. What's so difficult about this ABHI. You claimed that Hulk punches were weak sauce when he fought Miek but as shown on panel, Hulk ripped his body apart. Now the only thing you have to show me is someone surviving anything resembling that (Booster Gold would be a good choice since the comparison of this scene you're trying to use is in comparison to the Booster Gold and Doomsday scene). I'll be waiting.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That's nice an everything but DD's skin did not even got damaged by an explosion that open a hole in space.

Originally posted by carver9
@ABHI..

Yeah, it's enough...means the attack was extremely powerful but it doesn't mean they were trying to kill him...except Booster Gold of course. Superman started going all out during the end of the battle...he knew he had too bc if not, all of his friends would have been at risk, including the planet.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said Miek couldn't die. I'm asking you to show me someone surviving holes punched through his body. What's so difficult about this ABHI. You claimed that Hulk punches were weak sauce when he fought Miek but as shown on panel, Hulk ripped his body apart. Now the only thing you have to show me is someone surviving anything resembling that (Booster Gold would be a good choice since the comparison of this scene you're trying to use is in comparison to the Booster Gold and Doomsday scene). I'll be waiting.

Booster has survived falling from a mountain which killed Miek. That feeble hulk.

What are you trying to prove here anyway?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
The level of your ignorance is incredible, by the time DOS happened Flash was at best portrayed often at supersonic speeds, but you would not know that, because you have not read any of those comics, so Doomsday was portrayed to be fast enough to fight vs Superman and being compared by others as faster than the Flash, being KO'ed by a gas station is due to being in the middle of a fight vs Doomsday which by itself should be enough to one shot a lot of members of the league, add the gas station explosio and then you have a reason to get battle damage enough, to get KO, is not only a gas station, you are ignoring the CONTEXT that they are fighting Doomsday, but ignoring CONTEXT is something you do quite often.

I will get you that, Guy gardner was poorly displayed, pretty much like what marvel does when THOR or Sentry faces the HULK, if you accept this as true, then you should drop the double standards and concede that Thor and Sentry and a lot of top tiers are dumbed down when facing the Hulk. But Guy Gardner actually said that he was caught by surprise by Doomsday's speed

LOL, "large fire" more likely and explosion of a refinery and he was covered in flamable oil , so 😂 and yes, MMH should have been taken out by that, but actually Jurgens brought him back to the fight shortly after he survived that Explosion and was covered by burning flamable oil

lol so you are pointing out that Jurgens let Beetle live? because the steel pipe was getting bend, but the skull of beetle was not crushed. yeah I agree Jurgerns saved beetle just like he saved the rest of the league from death, after all this arc was titled DOS not "Death of the JLA" after all Gardner was already out of the fight and Doomsday just conveniently got distracted by fire so He did not killed Garner. Yeah Jurgens actually "amped" bettle beyond steel density in order for him to survive Doomsday

Again so Jurgens amped Booster gold to survive the beating as his skull was stronger than a three and his windpipe can survive a door slammed on his neck, that or the door and the three were made out of foam. Also Jurgens has stated the he defeats CHUMPS out of panel, just like King Thor defeated Hulk and Thing, because they are not worth panel time. 😉

Translation, "In other words, I don't have anything the [b]equivalent of Hulk defeating an avengers team with one hand tied behind his back, so let me try to lowball the team and add some ol' wish full thinking for the Hulk"

and way to try to divert attention, so where is the evidence of Hulk performing the equvalent of DD's feat?, not the same because that will be impossible, but a similar/equivalent feat [/B]

And it begins.

This isn't about Portrayals during that era, we are talking about portrayals during the Death of Superman story line. No matter how weak you THINK Superman was during that issue, a gas station should not have koed him. Hell, Banner before even going Hulk mode survived a Nuke point blank.

http://comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=comicbattles-2011053002271777&att=deadpool037a.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=comicbattles-2011053002271777&att=deadpool037b.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=comicbattles-2011053002271777&att=deadpool037c.jpg&fullsize=yes

So theres no need to ignore context when we have a gas station knocking out a character that is usually portrayed higher than that. Just admit it, everyone in that saga wasn't operating at peak performance unless you think Banner>>>>>>Superman.

What does Thor and Sentry have to do with our debate. YOU thinking they job to the Hulk does not make it true. Thor himself thinks the opposite.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8383/thorvshulkandthing6.jpg

Again (you may truly possess more raw strength than any living being)...

http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/1.jpg.html
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg

LOL... Glad you brought up Sentry... I will save the best about that topic for last but lets just discuss the topic you've mentioned in this thread. You saying that Sentry holds back against Hulk as well.

Not by Sentry admission...

"Yes, God I do...you're the only one I can hit like THIS.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh010.jpg.html

Thats not it; we also have this. "Does it always feel this good, to let go".

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bigbran1/media/wwh020.jpg.html

Well, that throws your argument out of the window concerning Thor and Sentry.

Lets move on.

Hulk was one shotting people that is more durable than Booster Gold.

First hit on Zom Strange daze him.

http://s39.photobucket.com/user/marvelkris/media/Scans/AA-WWH03-014.jpg.html

The rest of the hits...about the same amount of hits Booster Gold received, took Zom completely out of the fight.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/AA-WWH03-015.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/AA-WWH03-016.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/AA-WWH03-017.jpg

I can post others if you want but whats the point, we already know he one shot koed people like Ares, She Hulk, and Doc Sampson, beings that has taken licks from top tiers.

Back on topic...if its a team battle you want. Here we have Hulk taking on (literally taking on fist to fist and blast to fist, not just one maneuver) the Avengers.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers37316.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers38.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers39.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers40.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers41.jpg

By the time the battle was getting nice and ready, he was nearly taking on every hero on the planet. Forgot to add...he/Hulk was weakened.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers45.jpg.html
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsAvengers48.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
So it was and wasn't in the same sentence? He said "all of our powers', Guy, Booster and Fire were literally without power after that blast. How else someone goes all out?
Hulk's blows only caused holes in his body but he was alive. Sakaarians killed miek's whole race. Who is superior? The one who was unable to kill or the one who killed? Or are you saying that only Miek had healing factor and none of the other insects had HF?

Booster has survived falling from a mountain which killed Miek. That feeble hulk.

What are you trying to prove here anyway?

HHHMMM, good point. He said all of your powers combined, kind of like it being stated on panel that Sentry used the power of a million exploding suns?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh016.jpg

With that said, WWH showing piss all over Doomsday withstanding a concentrated blast from Superman and others.

Post the mountain scene and then post some scans of Booster surviving holes being punched through his body. It doesn't matter if Miek survived a fall or not, what he did temporarily survive it having holes punched and kicked clean through his body, something Booster Gold would have never survived.

You're the one trolling my friend. Always providing low showing to help your argument when everything you are bringing up contradicts your topic.

Originally posted by carver9
HHHMMM, good point. He said all of your powers combined, kind of like it being stated on panel that Sentry used the power of a million exploding suns?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh016.jpg

With that said, WWH showing piss all over Doomsday withstanding a concentrated blast from Superman and others.

Post the mountain scene and then post some scans of Booster surviving holes being punched through his body. It doesn't matter if Miek survived a fall or not, what he did temporarily survive it having holes punched and kicked clean through his body, something Booster Gold would have never survived.

You're the one trolling my friend. Always providing low showing to help your argument when everything you are bringing up contradicts your topic.

Sentry saying something about his power doesn't makes it true. J'onn saying that we're attacking him with full power does.

So where is Hulk no selling the likes of Superman, Martian Manhunter, Guy Gardner, Fire and Booster Gold? He couldn't even no sell a punch from Thing without gushing blood.

Hahahaha, you're the one who is lowballing and trolling and you're accusing me of doing so? Again what does Doomsday not killing Booster, Guy and Beetle means here? Even PC Validus punched Karate Kid and he lived, same with Mangog and random asgardians and heck even Omega kicked Karate Kid and he lived. All of those guys are weaker than Hulk too I guess.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Sentry saying something about his power doesn't makes it true. J'onn saying that we're attacking him with full power does.

So where is Hulk no selling the likes of Superman, Martian Manhunter, Guy Gardner, Fire and Booster Gold? He couldn't even no sell a punch from Thing without gushing blood.

Hahahaha, you're the one who is lowballing and trolling and you're accusing me of doing so? Again what does Doomsday not killing Booster, Guy and Beetle means here? Even PC Validus punched Karate Kid and he lived, same with Mangog and random asgardians and heck even Omega kicked Karate Kid and he lived. All of those guys are weaker than Hulk too I guess.

😂

So we accept Booster Gold saying that they dont need to hold back but we ignore what Pak was clearly trying to present in the comic. You're a freaking hypocrite and it's irritating.

carver dident the hulk beat the entire avengers including thor once?
I swear I saw that but don't remember where

Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
carver dident the hulk beat the entire avengers including thor once?
I swear I saw that but don't remember where

Naah, he doesn't have a win against them. They usually use some type of gas or injections to calm him down.

well that PIS is BS

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he doesn't have a win against them. They usually use some type of gas or injections to calm him down.

A huge lulz @ you calling anybody a hypocrite.

Originally posted by abhilegend
We've J'onn saying that too. But don't worry, Hulk nowadays only gets KTFO by residual energy on Thor's body.

A huge lulz @ you calling anybody a hypocrite.

I agree, Hulk gets taken out by residual magic blasts from a skyfather level weapon whereas Superman gets ripped to shred by magical teeth (lol).

Jonn didn't say a thing about using full power...that isn't even in character for him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
We've J'onn saying that too. But don't worry, Hulk nowadays only gets KTFO by residual energy on Thor's body.

A huge lulz @ you calling anybody a hypocrite.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, Hulk gets taken out by residual magic blasts from a skyfather level weapon whereas Superman gets ripped to shred by magical teeth (lol).

Jonn didn't say a thing about using full power...that isn't even in character for him.

Of course it was. Your denial wouldn't change anything.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman is weak to magic. Hulk isn't, also 😂 @ skyfather level weapon. Thor's residual lightning isn't skyfather level just because it dropped hulk.

Of course it was. Your denial wouldn't change anything.

Lol...it's been stated on panel that Hulk is vulnerable to magic, might not be on Supermans level but it's there and even with this vulnerability, he still wont get taken out by magical birds, cards, and magical teeth (lol).

Jonn didn't say a thing about going all out, neither did Superman. It was booster gold my friend.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...it's been stated on panel that Hulk is vulnerable to magic, might not be on Supermans level but it's there and even with this vulnerability, he still wont get taken out by magical birds, cards, and magical teeth (lol).

Jonn didn't say a thing about going all out, neither did Superman. It was booster gold my friend.

"All of our powers combined." Seems pretty clear that J'onn was going all out. Guy's ring was totally drained after that, that's the definition of going all out. Booster saying go all out doesn't contradicts anything, it serves to reinforce the notion that they were not holding back. Superman said "pour on" too.

Lets put it like this ABHI, how about we both stop bringing up low fts. You tend to do this when you are backed in a corner. Why would you even bring up the Thor showing when our topic had nothing to do with that? Dont even answer the question, lets get back on topic.

I'm not providing you a scan of it being stated Hulk is vulnerable to magic because showing you anything when debating with or against you is pointless. Goes completely over your head. Just know that it was stated a couple of yrs back.

LOL... ABHI, no one in that scan minus cocky Booster said anything about going all out.

Originally posted by carver9
Lets put it like this ABHI, how about we both stop bringing up low fts. You tend to do this when you are backed in a corner. Why would you even bring up the Thor showing when our topic had nothing to do with that? Dont even answer the question, lets get back on topic.

I'm not providing you a scan of it being stated Hulk is vulnerable to magic because showing you anything when debating with or against you is pointless. Goes completely over your head. Just know that it was stated a couple of yrs back.

LOL... ABHI, no one in that scan minus cocky Booster said anything about going all out.

So basically you've nothing but your usual "LOL, debunked" shit. You are a ****ing clown at this point.

How was Guy Gardner's ring drained completely then? Superman saying "pour on" doesn't means anything, right? This is how powerful Guy with sinestro ring was.

Oneshots Captain Atom and Bloodwynd.

Oneshots Wonder Woman and Maxima.

But Doomsday no selling Guy's whole ringpower is nothing, right carter?