Originally posted by ODG
Alright, I'm just done with this thread. I just don't understand what exactly was supposed to be accomplished by proving that Hulk can feel pain in his hands if they're smashed by Mjolnir.
My fingers do hurt man..they really do..and im out..this is nonsense..
Originally posted by ODG
Fixed for accuracy.
Don't try to fix Carver's stance on the issue, the original post is in there, so no need for you to alter it.
Originally posted by ODG
Now go ahead and address what they said instead of what you want them to have said. Prove it then.You care about the proposition you forced onto the discussion. It's become rather clear that you don't care what they're actually arguing though. There's a difference. And the language barrier can only account for so much when it's been pointed out several times.
The proposition that I forced? way to spin the argument.
The proposition was given by Carver that Hulk NEVER has hurt his hands punching anything followed by Rage's that doubts grey Hulk will hurt his hands fighting Doomsday.
So don't try to blame it on me. When I am responding to those propositions.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Even if Hulk was damaging his skin on Doomsday's body, it would only piss him off and cause him to get stronger and tougher. That's without factoring in his healing factor, too.Tbh, I'm not even sure why it got brought up to begin with.
It was brought up because of Carver's claims
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThe Underpants Gnome defense. That's basically what happened here:
Even if Hulk was damaging his skin on Doomsday's body, it would only piss him off and cause him to get stronger and tougher. That's without factoring in his healing factor, too.Tbh, I'm not even sure why it got brought up to begin with.
Phase 1: Mjolnir smash hurts Hulk's hand. Phase 2: ? Phase 3: Argument won.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
It was brought up because of Carver's claims
To be fair, this is actually carver's "claims" regarding the whole "hand hurt punching" debate in the order they were posted:
Originally posted by carver9
Lol at Hulk hurting his hands punching Doomsday. Also, Hulk can solo this.
Originally posted by carver9
The character fts has been insane as of late and people just dont want to acknowledge it...especially when we have people saying Hulk will hurt his hands punching Doomsday. When has something like that EVER happen with the Hulk. Hulk isn't S********** (I'm sure he is saying that bc his character hurt his fist punching Doomsday).
The two above were prior to the "claim" that you focused on (below) as the progenitor of what you believe is carver's position.
Also, you seem to have cropped out some important sentences that would more or less clarify what seems to be carver's true intention of the statement he made (underlined):
Originally posted by carver9
That's Superman hurting his hands. Nothing like that has EVER happened with the Hulk and he has fought some of the most powerful beings on the planet. Superman and Hulk isn't interchangeable. Point to a time Hulk has hurt his hands punching anything...especially in a fight. Just like Superman blitzing a character and him not registering Superman blows. Things like that doesn't happen with the Hulk...EVER.
The fact that he (carver): 1) made prior statements that coincides with what his intentions were which are then corroborated by future statements of clarification and 2) had a statements within the paragraph itself which you used as evidence of his "false claim" that seems to contradict your interpretation of it at least in intention seems to point to ODG being correct about his assertions.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Even if Hulk was damaging his skin on Doomsday's body, it would only piss him off and cause him to get stronger and tougher. That's without factoring in his healing factor, too.Tbh, I'm not even sure why it got brought up to begin with.
http://i.imgur.com/0sS9cHL.jpg
More than Doomsday too.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
To be fair, this is actually carver's "claims" regarding the whole "hand hurt punching" debate in the order they were posted:The two above were prior to the "claim" that you focused on (below) as the progenitor of what you believe is carver's position.
Also, you seem to have cropped out some important sentences that would more or less clarify what seems to be carver's true intention of the statement he made (underlined):
The fact that he (carver): 1) made prior statements that coincides with what his intentions were which are then corroborated by future statements of clarification and 2) had a statements within the paragraph itself which you used as evidence of his "false claim" that seems to contradict your interpretation of it at least in intention seems to point to ODG being correct about his assertions.
Originally posted by carver9
That's Superman hurting his hands. Nothing like that has EVER happened with the Hulk and he has fought some of the most powerful beings on the planet. Superman and Hulk isn't interchangeable. Point to a time Hulk has hurt his hands punching anything...especially in a fight. Just like Superman blitzing a character and him not registering Superman blows. Things like that doesn't happen with the Hulk...EVER.
In other words, that Superman has hurt his hands fighting DD does not matter because nothing like that has EVER happened to the Hulk, EVER!
And that was my beef with him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thing is obviously more durable than everybody Hulk has punched.http://i.imgur.com/0sS9cHL.jpg
More than Doomsday too.
....so, you're comparing Lee/Kirby era Hulk hurting his hands on Thing to how he'd react to Doomsday as of now?
I could care less who wins between the two, but c'mon.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
....so, you're comparing Lee/Kirby era Hulk hurting his hands on Thing to how he'd react to Doomsday as of now?I could care less who wins between the two, but c'mon.
Nothing like that has EVER happened with the Hulk
Point to a time Hulk has hurt his hands punching anything...especially in a fight.
Things like that doesn't happen with the Hulk...EVER.
I didn't realize EVER means exclude a specific era and one of the most classic stories of all time.
I don't care about this fight too but ODG white knighting carter is too funny.
Originally posted by carver9
That's Superman hurting his hands (referencing the scan you posted a scan of Superman hurting his hand on DD).Nothing like that has EVER happened with the Hulk (referencing the whole hurting his hand while punching someone concept as per scan above).
and he has fought some of the most powerful beings on the planet (further elaborating that the statement has to do with fighting someone and not something).
Superman and Hulk isn't interchangeable (further elaborating that his "claim" is firmly based on the Superman-DD scan provided).
Point to a time Hulk has hurt his hands punching anything... (The statement you zeroed in which is clarified intention-wise if you check both prior statements as well as future clarificatory statements he's made).
especially in a fight (again, further clarifying that this has to do with punching someone in a fight).
Just like Superman blitzing a character and him not registering Superman blows. Things like that doesn't happen with the Hulk...EVER.
I don't know why you insist to know better what he was trying to say and then focusing on a single, poorly worded median-point statement he made and then claiming it to be the primary source of his argument as well as accusing him of backtracking even when he's attempting to clarify multiple times what he said which can be corroborated by simply reading the entire paragraph he wrote as week as prior statements he's made.
It's not as if it proves anything relating to this debate one way or another.
But hey, whatever floats your boat. 😖hrug:
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
No one is arguing Defenders loose because Hulk hurt his pinky, read since page 3 and you will see what was argued in here.
I read the whole thing, whats silly is this argument...fingers dude..cmon man you guys are better then this..I know it.
Yall know everything and your arguing about his hands now..thread over and on to the next for real.
I think ODG's beef with you (please correct me if I'm wrong ODG) is this statement you made here (underlined):
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Before I continue answering to this silly idea of Rage and Carver that Hulk's hands do not feel pain or that is impossible for hulk to feel pain while punching.I just want to double check if this is where you both stand on the issue.
I say Hulk will hurt his hands because Superman hurt his hands punching Doomsday, since I believe Superman is stronger and more durable than Hulk, I say that Hulk is more likely to hurt his hands fighting Doomsday.
You guys apparently are saying that Hulk will not hurt his hands while fighting Doomsday because apparently Carver says that Hulk somehow has never feel pain in his hands and thus it is impossible for hulk o feel pain, Rage is somewhere on the same stance.
So just to double check, Is this the stand you both are taking?
Because so far Carver has been backtracking as usual
Which would indeed be straw-manning his argument as he never made those exact claims.
And thus, no backtracking (as you claimed) happened here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thing is obviously more durable than everybody Hulk has punched.http://i.imgur.com/0sS9cHL.jpg
More than Doomsday too.
😂 😂 I concede. If it took scans of this age to prove that I made a false claim, then, I concede.
Also Nibicus and ODG, along with Jake and Rage knew exactly what I was asking for. Dont know why someone would use a single word in my post that I obviously typed bc I was in a heated debate as reference to my entire claim.
Also, Supra, I agree with you bro (talking about your PM).
