Odin Force
Assisted Thor in denting Captain America's virtually indestructible shield.
Odin, wielding it, created a galaxy and then destroyed it.
With The Odin Force, Thor takes two nuclear warheads out of his chest without injury.
Killed Captain America whilst destroying his shield.
Kills Wolverine while destroying him and his Adamantium bones.
Thor has used the Odin Force to cure a man of his terminal cancer.
Thor has used the Odin Force to stop time itself.
Odin used it to cut out the heart of a star, with which it was used to forge and empower the legendary hammer Mjolnir.
Odin used it to bring back to life both Thor and Brunnhilde.(Valkyrie)
By channeling the Odin Force into his sacred hammer Mjolnir, Thor decapitated the nigh-invincible Destroyer Armor with one strike.
Thor used the Odin Force to not only become the supreme ruler of Earth itself, but also eliminate all of its hero's and villains that opposed him.
Odin used it to transform the cursed Nibelling rings into the gigantic Oversword of Asgard.(now known as the Odinsword)
Thor used it to destroy the Blood Axe of Skurge the Executioner, stating that only the Odin Force was capable of doing so.
Thor used the Odin Force to restore not only the floating city of Asgard on Earth, but also restored the lives of all the Asgardians who were lost after Ragnarok.
Odin used it to create and empower Stormbreaker, the hammer of Beta Ray Bill.
Odin used it to create and empower the Uru mace Thunderstrike, as a gift to Eric Masterson for all his heroic efforts in Asgard's name.
Odin used it to trap Surtur within his own body, becoming a living prison for the fire Elemental.
Odin used it to save the life of Eric Masterson by merging his life force with that of Thor's.
Power Cosmic.
Used to by Galactus to fight Scrier and the Other, and nearly collapsed reality into Oblivion.
Used to by Galactus to hold his own against the Galactus Engine singlehandedly for some time, while the other cosmic entities fled or died.
Used by Galactus to take on four mad Celestials at once, killed one of them, and helped adult Franklin kill the rest.
Galactus at full power takes Odin at full power. Marvel's top Massive Cosmic Entities outweigh Marvel's top Skyfathers.
Galactus trumps Odin on the power charts.
Thor at full power trumps Surfer at full power. The lines blur at Thor and Surfer's level.
The Godblast hits harder than Surfer's most desperate Cosmic Blast.
So...
Cosmic wins at Galactus level.
Odin Force wins at Thor level.
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Originally posted by jaxthejester
Galactus at full power takes Odin at full power. Marvel's top Massive Cosmic Entities outweigh Marvel's top Skyfathers.
Galactus trumps Odin on the power charts.Thor at full power trumps Surfer at full power. The lines blur at Thor and Surfer's level.
The Godblast hits harder than Surfer's most desperate Cosmic Blast.So...
Cosmic wins at Galactus level.
Odin Force wins at Thor level.
😎
Agree.
Galactus
Thor.
Originally posted by jaxthejesterdifference between thor and Surfer potential power. Thor is inherently elder god/god something that he clearly grows into in power. Surfer was granted his power. I'm not sure how much room for growth was in there because there are times when he's an epic boss of bosses and other times when we just see him crash and burn.
Galactus at full power takes Odin at full power. Marvel's top Massive Cosmic Entities outweigh Marvel's top Skyfathers.
Galactus trumps Odin on the power charts.Thor at full power trumps Surfer at full power. The lines blur at Thor and Surfer's level.
The Godblast hits harder than Surfer's most desperate Cosmic Blast.So...
Cosmic wins at Galactus level.
Odin Force wins at Thor level.
😎
But Surfer is also able to amp and absorb energies - all manner of cosmic energies - to unknown levels.
His powerset seems to be completely open, in that if he wanted to he could "evolve himself" to operate at any level of power he wants. Like he did when he absorbed the souls from UniLord.
What level of power must you have to be able to evolve a whole planet billions of years, without even tapping out?
Seems to me, Surfer is self-limiting. In principle he has an open powerset with a default "volume level", that he can change if he roots around in his settings.
The Power Cosmic is omniversal, iirc, it's everywhere and is used by other cosmic abstracts besides Galactus, so the scope for growth is ... Literally omniversal.
Originally posted by janus77
But Surfer is also able to amp and absorb energies - all manner of cosmic energies - to unknown levels.His powerset seems to be completely open, in that if he wanted to he could "evolve himself" to operate at any level of power he wants. Like he did when he absorbed the souls from UniLord.
What level of power must you have to be able to evolve a whole planet billions of years, without even tapping out?
Seems to me, Surfer is self-limiting. In principle he has an open powerset with a default "volume level", that he can change if he roots around in his settings.
The Power Cosmic is omniversal, iirc, it's everywhere and is used by other cosmic abstracts besides Galactus, so the scope for growth is ... Literally omniversal.
So by giving SS his power SS can overpower Galactus if he wanted too by not having to require planets to feed on, how powerful could he become?
Originally posted by Supra
How much can surfer extend or go beyond his gifted powers or is he always limited unless galactus gives/increases his cosmic power?Being Galactus and him creating heralds...seems he would not be willing to make the chance of his herald over powering him..
The most obvious example being Tyrant.
Galactus doesn't seem to impose limits, I guess he just doesn't worry as he too can grow as powerful as necessary.
Originally posted by janus77
Nope, actually quite a few of his heralds have amped themselves, one way or another, beyond the level he gave them.The most obvious example being Tyrant.
Galactus doesn't seem to impose limits, I guess he just doesn't worry as he too can grow as powerful as necessary.
So if SS Amped his power to Galactus level..would he require planets to comsume to sustain him?
Originally posted by Supra
So by giving SS his power SS can overpower Galactus if he wanted too by not having to require planets to feed on, how powerful could he become?
It's happened to Galactus before with Tyrant. And even Morg, with WoL was amped far beyond the herald Galactus made him.
I suspect Galactus has a superior connection to the Power Cosmic and has absolute command over it with respect to stripping his heralds of it, but they are free to absorb as much of it as they can handle (which isn't clearly set).
Originally posted by Supra
So if SS Amped his power to Galactus level..would he require planets to comsume to sustain him?
None of his heralds require that sort of thing, though I think they could all use it, if they wanted to - Surfer eating souls for example.