Originally posted by janus77
The planets thing is specific to Galactus. It's his function, the hunger is merely a mechanism for it.None of his heralds require that sort of thing, though I think they could all use it, if they wanted to - Surfer eating souls for example.
Does there power flow from his, like are they connected through the power cosmic or if he dies so does there power?
Originally posted by Supra
Ok so if SS Amped to say "Close to Galactus Cosmic Awarness" how long could he sustain it?
The closest he's come to that kind of power is when he got the Quantum Bands and called himself The Keeper. Though when Galactus got tired of him, he slapped him down quite embarrassingly easily.
I don't think Surfer would have a problem retaining the powers, if he got them. It'd be like High Evolutionary, he evolves his physiology to be able to absorb more power. It just sticks.
Originally posted by Supra
Does there power flow from his, like are they connected through the power cosmic or if he dies so does there power?
The Power Cosmic is just the basic foundational energies of the omniverse. It flows through Galactus and his heralds, he is not the source of it.
Not sure if their access to the PC would be affected by his death, don't think so.
Originally posted by Supra
Ok so theoretically if he wanted to or any of the heralds wanted too..They too could be the most powerful being in the universe?
As long as Galactus and the other cosmics are around, I don't think any herald is truly going to be competing for "the most powerful being in the universe".
They'd definitely be way more powerful than cheap pantheon gods and such though.
Originally posted by Supra
So a herald at that lvl could wreck Odin?
Herald is more of an overall power-level bracket. Which is why you have high heralds that can breakout of that bracket into the next one (or further up).
Hulk, Surfer, Thor, Sentry and maybe one or two others, can transcend the herald level at times.
Thor basically does so whenever Odin's dead.
Surfer, whenever the writer allows it.
Hulk ... whenever he really wants to.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Surfer can surpass the power of the Godblast, if he get a external force of energy, like he did against Aegis and Tenebrous.But this thread is about their pure energy attacks. Absorving energy means that is not pure energy. It is his energy + energy from another source.
From Galactus? Yep. Instant-death, imo.
Though he'd return, by absorbing ambient gamma - like Maestro - as he has a consciousness that extends beyond his physical form.
If Galactus wanted to perma-kill Hulk, I think he could do so easily too.
Different weight class.
Give it time though, with the recent statement of Master Order that it took the majority of his energies to restrain (a fairly calm) Hulk, I think that's a hint at a huge amp in Hulk's "base level".
Originally posted by janus77
From Galactus? Yep. Instant-death, imo.Though he'd return, by absorbing ambient gamma - like Maestro - as he has a consciousness that extends beyond his physical form.
If Galactus wanted to perma-kill Hulk, I think he could do so easily too.
Different weight class.
Give it time though, with the recent statement of Master Order that it took the majority of his energies to restrain (a fairly calm) Hulk, I think that's a hint at a huge amp in Hulk's "base level".
Man thats sick..So the only one that can really challenge G is Abraxas?
Problem with this argument is that if this is the case than technically anyone can become nigh omnipotent with the right tech. If molecular manips/gene manipulation is all it takes and for you to alter yourself to greater power then why hasn't high evolutionary evolved himself into Future Franklin Richards power. There isn't even any real research that needs to be done he just needs a gene template. Or Silver Surfer could do the same any time he's had a disagreement with his bosses policy. Cosmic Awareness copy Franklin's genetic structure or Legion or Mad Jim Jaspers or if he really wanted to go all out copy Protégé from earth 691. I'd like to think that there is some kind of cosmic restriction against nonsense like that.
Originally posted by Supra
Man thats sick..So the only one that can really challenge G is Abraxas?
Marvel cosmology is ... "constantly evolving" according to writer whim, amnesia, oversight and or "shits 'n giggles".
Originally posted by Uriel005
Problem with this argument is that if this is the case than technically anyone can become nigh omnipotent with the right tech. If molecular manips/gene manipulation is all it takes and for you to alter yourself to greater power then why hasn't high evolutionary evolved himself into Future Franklin Richards power. There isn't even any real research that needs to be done he just needs a gene template. Or Silver Surfer could do the same any time he's had a disagreement with his bosses policy. Cosmic Awareness copy Franklin's genetic structure or Legion or Mad Jim Jaspers or if he really wanted to go all out copy Protégé from earth 691. I'd like to think that there is some kind of cosmic restriction against nonsense like that.
If we take Galactus at his word, then Surfer's channelling of The Crunch Energies was a feat beyond Galactus' himself ... But even if not, it clearly represents an ability to deal with energies beyond the scope that Proemial Gods could cope with - gods who themselves challenged Galactus.
The simple and obvious truth is that Surfer is writer/editor limited.
That The High Evolutionary only becomes as powerful as his story demands, having gone from a regular genius-level human to somewhere in the trans category.
That Thanos, who himself has augmented his body beyond his Eternal physiology, has not become a peer of Galactus by augmentation alone, just because that isn't a story Marvel wish to tell.
We can prove that Surfer can absorb energies sufficient to kick an _amped_ Watcher's arse. That he can absorb biological and spiritual energies (souls), and amp from them significantly.
We also know that Korvac basically made himself Skyfather+ just simply by absorbing the Power Cosmic and the knowledge of Galactus' ship.
So that kind of amp is definitely possible, in comics.
Originally posted by Suprakinda in marvel the quasi-pseudo science power cosmic is the supreme driving force with cosmic beings at the top of the hierarchy. In DC Magic is the supreme force based on interpretation that a judeo-christian monotheistic deity is the generally accepted figurehead at the top of the hierarchy in DC given how demons and angels often interact as a magic based power. That said Magic in both Marvel and DC shouldn't really be called magic because things defined as magical or mystical are by inherent virtue something that shouldn't be explained by science but the very nature of the practice of magic in both universes tend to have very structured and ordered results with very little in the way of turning your mega-doomsday spell into a ball of randomness shooting rainbows and ponies everywhere unless the caster does something/someone interferes in the magic.
So Power Cosmic is the singular most powerful energy source in the universe creating and sustaining all life? Basically thats what the gods use to create ad destroy?