Power Cosmic vs. Odin Force

Started by Warlord9 pages

could be a variation in the black holes force or the subect's durability. The latter is much more common in comics. However the godblast has been portrayed consistently at top level energy blasts in Marvel

Originally posted by abhilegend
You mean the silver light which was never confirmed to be alternate silver surfer who stayed back in the unilord universe? I know all about your wild theories which you brought up the last time we "discussed" it. It was laughable then and its laughable now. But pray tell us of how a silver light means it was silver surfer merged with another silver surfer, yet never showing double the power of silver surfer. Please do, I want a good laugh.

So pray tell what it supposed to be? The silver comet that came out the Unilord rift at the end of the Unilord arc. The same findings that Both Quasar and BRB felt at the beginning of that arc. the Silver Comet that was looking and merge when it found 616 Surfer and get this at THE END OF THE UNILORD STORY. why would this be included if it's not supposed to be in the story?

Nothing to do with the "subject's durability" as Surfer has casually moved through blackholes too. And Thanos has tanked all sorts of forces in the past (and since).

It's just that not all blackholes are the same 'strength', some, like the one Surfer created, are very dangerous to even the trans-level figures.

Originally posted by janus77
Nothing to do with the "subject's durability" as Surfer has casually moved through blackholes too. And Thanos has tanked all sorts of forces in the past (and since).

It's just that not all blackholes are the same 'strength', some, like the one Surfer created, are very dangerous to even the trans-level figures.

now you are acting like the same forces haven't harm people who have shown resistance to them before in comics, but whatever

Originally posted by Warlord
Ambient: cool the first scan is great, if it is indeed applicable to 616 surfer.
For the second one, while impressive, I am not sure creating a black hole measures better than the godblast.

Still thanks for the first scan, wasn't aware of it

My pleasure.

Damn Blackberry phone.

Originally posted by Warlord
now you are acting like the same forces haven't harm people who have shown resistance to them before in comics, but whatever

No I'm not, I'm just acknowledging that Marvel have depicted blackholes of variable strength.

Read Planet Hulk, it even says that the blackhole to Sakaar is particularly strong - just one example of this variable power.

Not too sure on black hole comparable to GB, it's destructive powers varies and without someone actually being affected by it, we can only speculate. Thought Thanos did seem to be scared with The one Surfer created but is it enough to put his life in danger?

Originally posted by Ambient
Not too sure on black hole comparable to GB, it's destructive powers varies and without someone actually being affected by it, we can only speculate. Thought Thanos did seem to be scared with The one Surfer created but is it enough to put his life in danger?
that's what I'm saying...not easilly compared blast to blast...the first scan though...

Originally posted by Ambient
So pray tell what it supposed to be? The silver comet that came out the Unilord rift at the end of the Unilord arc. The same findings that Both Quasar and BRB felt at the beginning of that arc. the Silver Comet that was looking and merge when it found 616 Surfer and get this at [B]THE END OF THE UNILORD STORY. why would this be included if it's not supposed to be in the story? [/B]
Who knows? The arc is just a hot mess. What we do know is that the alternate silver surfer was back in his universe to see the life grow in his universe.

http://imgur.com/irMBFGL

After he dispersed all the souls in infinite timelines and whatnot.

http://imgur.com/A4531JZ

So any power up he received was gone.

Then the silver light was again received by surfer which were stated to be the same distress call BRB and Quasar felt at the start of the arc and surfer was muttering 101.

http://imgur.com/RokXt8o
http://imgur.com/btAZswh
http://imgur.com/wKhPyaO
http://imgur.com/AvMdOrZ

Also you're the guy who is claiming that another silver surfer was merged with 616 surfer without any kind of proof, power increase, memory insurgence or shit like that. All you've is that it was a silver light and it was included in the end of the arc. We see that it was nothing but another 101 distress call in the next issue. There is not even an implication that another surfer was merged with this one.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who knows? The arc is just a hot mess. What we do know is that the alternate silver surfer was back in his universe to see the life grow in his universe.

http://imgur.com/irMBFGL

After he dispersed all the souls in infinite timelines and whatnot.

http://imgur.com/A4531JZ

So any power up he received was gone.

Then the silver light was again received by surfer which were stated to be the same distress call BRB and Quasar felt at the start of the arc and surfer was muttering 101.

http://imgur.com/RokXt8o
http://imgur.com/btAZswh
http://imgur.com/wKhPyaO
http://imgur.com/AvMdOrZ

Also you're the guy who is claiming that another silver surfer was merged with 616 surfer without any kind of proof, power increase, memory insurgence or shit like that. All you've is that it was a [b]silver light and it was included in the end of the arc. We see that it was nothing but another 101 distress call in the next issue. There is not even an implication that another surfer was merged with this one. [/B]


Yes! We got all that.

U know when u flip to the next art to see what's happened next that's called another page, it might have some numbers in there like 22, 23, 24 and etc - etc. so after looking at the page that you kindly showed us via scan, you flip to the next page and What in there entails us is that the narrator specifically says that's another story to be told, "the Surfers universe." Then it brings us back to the current where the rift opened in 616 universe, the same rift that the unilord Surfer traverse then we flip to the next page, where a silver comet came out
Of the rift as if looking for something then to the next page, and it found 616 Surfer and according to both Bill and Quasar the comet/ ball of silver fire to be exact was not going fast and could be avoided easy by 616 Surfer but he was in a trance and muttering binary # code then impact/ merged they thought Surfer got annihilated but was unharmed. This story correlates with 616 universe wither u like it or not.

Only the energy he release but the upgrade was his permanently, he configured himself for the upgrade to absorb those energies.

Lol another distress call.. Now your just reaching.

Originally posted by Ambient
Yes! We got all that.
Not you apparently.

U know when u flip to the next art to see what's happened next that's called another page, it might have some numbers in there like 22, 23, 24 and etc - etc. so after looking at the page that you kindly showed us via scan, you flip to the next page and What in there entails us is that the narrator specifically says that's another story to be told, "the Surfers universe." Then it brings us back to the current where the rift opened in 616 universe, the same rift that the unilord Surfer traverse then we flip to the next page, where a silver comet came out
No need to be a dick bro.

Nothing of that sort was said about surfer's universe or another story. This is new even for you, making your own comics.

Of the rift as if looking for something then to the next page, and it found 616 Surfer and according to both Bill and Quasar the comet/ ball of silver fire to be exact was not going fast and could be avoided easy by 616 Surfer but he was in a trance and muttering binary # code then impact/ merged they thought Surfer got annihilated but was unharmed.
No, the light merged with him and then the muttering came. Surfer was shown without any trans before that.

This story correlates with 616 universe wither u like it or not.
It never implies any kind of merger.

Only the energy he release but the upgrade was his permanently, he configured himself for the upgrade to absorb those energies.
Means very little. Surfer re-configuring doesn't means he was altered.

Lol another distress call.. Now your just reaching.
Irony meter exploded. You're the guy telling us that surfer has twice the power he once had and he never showed it once after it? Amazing reach there bro.

Can Odin use power cosmic on any level?

Good question. By proxy, I'm sure he can. Like Doom and others, devices can be made to utilise the Power Cosmic.

The only overlap between Odin Force and Power Cosmic, that I recall was when Surfer synthesised the Odin Force to recreate BRB's mallet for him.

Originally posted by janus77
Good question. By proxy, I'm sure he can. Like Doom and others, devices can be made to utilise the Power Cosmic.

The only overlap between Odin Force and Power Cosmic, that I recall was when Surfer synthesised the Odin Force to recreate BRB's mallet for him.

Can odin amp with cosmic? I knew it Surfer can create the hammer!!

Originally posted by abhilegend
No need to be a dick bro.

Nothing of that sort was said about surfer's universe or another story. This is new even for you, making your own comics.
No, the light merged with him and then the muttering came. Surfer was shown without any trans before that.


My recollection of it was a bit vague but you help a bit with the scan. Right there it say's when Surfer ask about his Universe at previous page. He State's "My Universe." and then the next page the narrator say's, "It will remain to be an answered for now." Same thing. This is what im referring to when you speak about the unilord Universe which becomes the Silver Surfer Universe. It remains to be told and then it brings us to the continuity when and after the rift.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, the light merged with him and then the muttering came. Surfer was shown without any trans before that.

It never implies any kind of merger.

Means very little. Surfer re-configuring doesn't means he was altered.


No! Bill states when Surfer was at trance, he was muttering binary code. But really it makes no diff. what of importance is that the Silver light came for Surfer from the Unilord rift which correlate to my point, came and made contact/merge.

Its very clear to me. Everything about this arc is mergence; from Grandpractioneer fey, the 9 silver Surfer, The blackbody Surfer to the Unilords defeat by his hands. All of this is merging, heck the souls gathered by the blackbodies purpose was for merging. So when the Silver Comet hit 616 Surfer, trust me that was a merging.

He reconfigured his form to merge with the guardian blockbody; to be able to accept the energy the blockbody consumed. You can look at it what you like, but the point is, it made him much more than he was therefore an upgrade to his form.

Irony meter exploded. You're the guy telling us that surfer has twice the power he once had and he never showed it once after it? Amazing reach there bro.

Dude! Where did i say he was twice as powerful. But if you want example of what made him diff. prior to that upgrade: How about; the ability to merge with body of planetary mass, higher energy projection, higher energy absorption capacity.

I think the problem here is simple, accepting this feat as canon to Surfer would make the gap between your boy, Supes farther and farther. And you just can't have that can you. Lol'ed

Originally posted by Supra
Can odin amp with cosmic? I knew it Surfer can create the hammer!!

Yeah! Mystic energy greatly amps with PC and vice versa.

EX.
Thanos
Morg with Wol

Originally posted by Supra
Can odin amp with cosmic? I knew it Surfer can create the hammer!!

Here's the actual scene.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-06.jpg

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-07.jpg.html

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-08.jpg.html

And an explanation of what happened:

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-10.jpg.html

All seeing all father didn't see it coming. :-p

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Here's the actual scene.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-06.jpg

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-07.jpg.html

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-08.jpg.html

And an explanation of what happened:

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-10.jpg.html

All seeing all father didn't see it coming. :-p

Dude I would really love to read those but the text is so small is there any way to blow them up?

There's actually a "zoom in" command at the bottom right of each panel. It's a magnifying glass with a "+" on it. Tho I'm not sure if it's really available on everyone's screen.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Here's the actual scene.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-06.jpg

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-07.jpg.html

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-08.jpg.html

And an explanation of what happened:

http://s22.photobucket.com/user/surfistaprateado/media/CosmicPowersUnlimited05-10.jpg.html

All seeing all father didn't see it coming. :-p

Heck no, so the stormbreaker is now more powerful then before and BRB will be more powerful now?

Also Odin did not seem to happy!!

Im so happy to read these scans!!

To me this proves SS is more powerful then the All Father

Originally posted by Supra
Heck no, so the stormbreaker is now more powerful then before and BRB will be more powerful now?

Also Odin did not seem to happy!!

Im so happy to read these scans!!

To me this proves SS is more powerful then the All Father


Stormbreaker is actually back to normal form, don't know how this came about, I guess that's another story to be told.

Odin didn't like how Surfer went about the manipulation of Bills biology and form but that's about it. If Odin wanted to, he could probably farther enhance bill outside Surfer scope.

No! Surfer is not at the level of All Father Odin, not even close.