Professor X mind attack!

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Originally posted by abhilegend

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/spectreearth.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/spectreearth1.jpg

Those scans from Countdown are also just a brief retelling of a Pre-Crisis JLA story, which is where it originally happened.

Another Pre Crisis instance i recall where Spectre performed a similar feat, would be in All-Star Squadron (pulling apart 2 universes), on top of that in that same story, the voice said that Spectre's aura was powerful enough to upset the multiversal cosmic balance or something similar.

Originally posted by operator616
Those scans from Countdown are also just a brief retelling of a Pre-Crisis JLA story, which is where it originally happened.

Another Pre Crisis instance i recall where Spectre performed a similar feat, would be in All-Star Squadron (pulling apart 2 universes), on top of that in that same story, the voice said that Spectre's aura was powerful enough to upset the multiversal cosmic balance or something similar.


Can you post those scans?

Originally posted by operator616
Those scans from Countdown are also just a brief retelling of a Pre-Crisis JLA story, which is where it originally happened.

Another Pre Crisis instance i recall where Spectre performed a similar feat, would be in All-Star Squadron (pulling apart 2 universes), on top of that in that same story, the voice said that Spectre's aura was powerful enough to upset the multiversal cosmic balance or something similar.

The All Star Squadron one wasn't so much holding two universes apart as two Earths. Spectre had sensed the presence of Earth X because uncle Sam opened a vortex to it taking heroes (like Hourman and red bee from memory) to help fight the axis. Once spectre pierced the veil his aura of power made each earth feel it's natural position to be in the place of the other. Both Earth x and Earth 2 were trying to occupy the same place in time/space as I recall. I'll try and find the scans as well as the one from Millennium, which was really nothing more than a panel where BW told the assembled he'd scanned Earth fro Manhunters and found none (because all were in the earth core base)

Originally posted by Epicurus
Except when that particular showing is the more recent feat. Think.
Galactus was on the outskirts of Zenn-La's solar system at the time and 50 years ago, which hints at that being right after he acquired Surfer, which means he was hungry.
Also hinted at him fighting The Other and Scrier at the same time when he wasn't hungry... but we ignore that in favor of the context pointing to his hunger.
Funny I seen the Godblast brought up too considering that story as well.

And some other points I noticed that have funny context (there's probably more, but I don't care to re-read those quotes)... Galactus was hungry in his second fight with Ego. In fact, that's the whole reason he found Ego. And he left because they were too evenly matched.

And Mephisto easily beat Surfer while holding back in the same story he fought Galactus. Which means he wasn't operating at "stalemating Surfer" levels. Crazy thought huh?

Originally posted by Iron-man
I know that Spectre wins, but you act like Spectre is levels beyond Galactus TP.
He is.
I doubt it, even if Spectre was it's not Superman resisted Spectre's telepathy. He was just able to resistance Spectre's subconscious going out of whack, which isn't TP resistance.
What? Superman destroyed the astral being who was mindraping spectre, it wasn't spectre's subconscious going whack or something.

The fact that MM in one showing could beaten by Spectre, yet in soul wars MM was able to connect Spectre's mind should send red flags that Spectre's mind at the time wasn't at his peak.
Hal was a total n00b when J'onn pulled his mind to the astral plane. This story JLA/Spectre: Soul War happened several years after that where Hal had mastered his powers.

Good on ahead. Stop pretending Superman overcoming Spectre subconscious when it's obvious that Spectre at that story wasn't at it's prime should be considered a feat of Telepathy resistance.
LOL, STFU. First read the story and then talk about it. It was Trans who was mindraping spectre, not spectre's subconsciousness and spectre was at prime of his powers.

But also we know that Galactus made a illusion that lasted for a long time, and nobody would know about it.
So? Everybody thought Zenn-La was still there so they didn't suspect it was an illusion. Otherwise even Genis as Legacy saw through the illusion.

But we know that Galactus was too distracted by Thor and Iron man to fight Dr.Strange at the time. We know that Galactus was at one of the weakest points.
Doesn't means his low showings are going to get annulled.
Even if you do bring up that, we know that Tiamut was trying to get in Galactus in a differen story but needed Galactus to fall to do that.
Non Canon.

As completely immune to it, I doubt that given how characters like Eclipso seem to have controlled him a little bit. Seeing how The Trans were damaging Spectre's mind, I can't imagine it's
That's because Superman once gave his body's control to eclipso and once it tricked him. Otherwise Superman has overpowered Eclipso's control too.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Willpower/ManOfSteelAnnual01a.jpg

Superman's resistance to psi is absolutely ridiculous at his best.

You know there isn't much a huge gap between Galactus and Odin. It's not like Odin is miles weaker then Spectre is at his normal levels
Of course he is. Spectre crushes beings like Odin at his prime. He is one of the most powerful abstracts in DCU. To think a marvel skyfather is near him in power is just marvel cock stroking.

By all means forget that Odin was the dude that could fix Warrior Madness in Thor, when Moondragon/Thanos couldn't.
So? Thor killed his own mad self in astral plane. Odin didn't. When Odin or Galactus collects every thought of humanity through several timelines and feed it to someone, call me.

Originally posted by Iron-man
By all means forget that Odin was the dude that could fix Warrior Madness in Thor, when Moondragon/Thanos couldn't.

Thanos, Dr. Strange, the Silver Surfer, Drax, Adam Warlock, Moondragon, and Maxam had to combine their wills for one sudden attack to just barely break free:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill4.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill5.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill6.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill9.jpg

And it was made clear that Odin didn't cure Thor from the Warrior Madness because it could have done damage to his mind:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill11.jpg

Oh yeah, he also easily pierced the barrier into Thor's mind twice when Moondragon had a hell of a time:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill2.jpg

And Thor only let Moondragon in through to his mind:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorInsaneWill5.jpg.html

Originally posted by Epicurus
Try rectifying Warrior's madness level of tp. Lol, when has Loki ever stalemated Odin telepathically?

Yeah, I know.....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Yeah, I know.....

Odin sucks. How could he stalemate Loki for a second? The feat where Spectre did that one thing with pure power shows his TP is crazily above Odin/Galactus. And Superman is way more powerful!!! Which means Superman >>> Spectre >>> Odin/Galactus. Haters beware.

Although I find it funny that judging from the quotes I read anyway, that Abhi is defending SPECTRE while pointing out everyone else's "low feats" and completely ignoring context.

Spectre.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Odin sucks. How could he stalemate Loki for a second? The feat where Spectre did that one thing with pure power shows his TP is crazily above Odin/Galactus. And Superman is way more powerful!!! Which means Superman >>> Spectre >>> Odin/Galactus. Haters beware.

Although I find it funny that judging from the quotes I read anyway, that Abhi is defending SPECTRE while pointing out everyone else's "low feats" and completely ignoring context.

Spectre.

He never ignores the context of his own scans. Ever.

😂

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Odin sucks. How could he stalemate Loki for a second? The feat where Spectre did that one thing with pure power shows his TP is crazily above Odin/Galactus. And Superman is way more powerful!!! Which means Superman >>> Spectre >>> Odin/Galactus. Haters beware.

Although I find it funny that judging from the quotes I read anyway, that Abhi is defending SPECTRE while pointing out everyone else's "low feats" and completely ignoring context.

Spectre.

Yea. Ironic since Spectre in particular has had so many low showings.

I don't know how this conversation started but using him as some kind of measuring stick? That is in itself an act of futility and just a waste of time.

Odin alone can go from dismissing him to getting beat up.

lol Spectre.

LOL @ Odin dismissing Spectre. Yeah, you've heard it first. Even the weakest version of Spectre in Crispus Allen would curbstomp Odin.

Also 😂 @ comparing psi-resistance to being more powerful. WM Thor>>>>>>>Thanos in power then, right bran? Oh I forgot, you have me on ignore but taking potshots at me from there. Fun, isn't it?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol Spectre.

Better yet, Odin can dismiss Spectre because "LOL universal energies" but random new gods creating universes on panel or Darkseid creating several realities don't mean anything because "LOL, SUPERMAN".

Originally posted by abhilegend
Better yet, Odin can dismiss Spectre because "LOL universal energies" but random new gods creating universes on panel or Darkseid creating several realities don't mean anything because "LOL, SUPERMAN".

WTF are you talking about?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF are you talking about?
😂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea. Ironic since Spectre in particular has had so many low showings.

I don't know how this conversation started but using him as some kind of measuring stick? That is in itself an act of futility and just a waste of time.

Odin alone can go from dismissing him to getting beat up.

Because Superman resisted something that conquered Spectre. So therefore Spectre has to be put into the light that he is way above Galactus/Odin in TP and in power, so you can roundabout say that Superman is also more powerful in TP. Even though we forgot to use Spectre's TP feats to come to such a conclusion.

But yeah... MM you know
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3075515-spec1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3075513-spec2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3075514-spec3.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2647101-1.png
http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2647102-2.png

Though that last one ended "well" for the JLA I guess...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF are you talking about?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea. Ironic since Spectre in particular has had so many low showings.

I don't know how this conversation started but using him as some kind of measuring stick? That is in itself an act of futility and just a waste of time.

Odin alone can go from dismissing him to getting beat up.

Dismissing spectre in all his glory.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF are you talking about?

His love of Superman.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because Superman resisted something that conquered Spectre. So therefore Spectre has to be put into the light that he is way above Galactus/Odin in TP and in power, so you can roundabout say that Superman is also more powerful in TP. Even though we forgot to use Spectre's TP feats to come to such a conclusion.

But yeah... MM you know
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3075515-spec1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3075513-spec2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3075514-spec3.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2647101-1.png
http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/2647102-2.png

Though that last one ended "well" for the JLA I guess...

👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
Can you post those scans?

Here's the showing from JLA #47:

http://i.imgur.com/NgyCjb5.jpg

And the one from All-Star Squadron #34:

http://i.imgur.com/cs7AWjE.jpg?1

in Issue #33, the voice mentions that the Spectre's aura is powerful enough to upset the multiversal cosmic balance:

http://i.imgur.com/KHKK5Xb.jpg?1

Originally posted by beatboks
The All Star Squadron one wasn't so much holding two universes apart as two Earths. Spectre had sensed the presence of Earth X because uncle Sam opened a vortex to it taking heroes (like Hourman and red bee from memory) to help fight the axis. Once spectre pierced the veil his aura of power made each earth feel it's natural position to be in the place of the other. Both Earth x and Earth 2 were trying to occupy the same place in time/space as I recall.

When you're holding the barriers between the 2 universes apart, you're holding the entire two universes apart.