Sauron vs. Ganondorf (Twilight Princess)

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is a gameplay mechanic. Much slower attacks beat him. 😂

Which slower attacks would these be?

Based off what ? You're saying if you hand the master sword to Bulbin it won't hurt Dorf ? Utterly preposterous. We don't see anyone lack the strength to hurt Dorf in the game either. More baseless claims. Sauron has greater strength than Dorf, Link, and Bulbin. He also has the powers to hold Dorf still whether he is in animal form or not.

What? No, the Master Sword can hurt Ganondorf no matter who wields it. King Bulblin just can't hurt Ganondorf with his axe, is what I'm saying. We clearly see Midna lack the strength to hurt Ganon despite destroying a castle sized barrier. And unless Sauro can hold someone who's intangible, Ganondorf can escape easily.

It is speculation either way from any perspective. We know it doesn't kill him Thats also but we've seen another form defeated just not killed.

We've seen other forms killed and he revives. We actually see Midna attack him. Based on that, Sauron can't hurt him.

Tk, weakness wound, superior strength. Sauron stomps.

Ganondorf has TK as well, he's many times stronger than Sauron, and immune to Sauron's attacks. I don't see how you think Sauron could possibly win.

Can someone ploz show me Sauron's superior strength? Should be worth the gander.

I've avoided this thread because I haven't seen enough on-screen Sauron. But because this ALL-VS, I can implement book Sauron. They literally have almost the exact same powers... I guess what tips the scales is the Triforce of Power. So... yeah Gannon Wins.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Which slower attacks would these be?

What? No, the Master Sword can hurt Ganondorf no matter who wields it. King Bulblin just can't hurt Ganondorf with his axe, is what I'm saying. We clearly see Midna lack the strength to hurt Ganon despite destroying a castle sized barrier. And unless Sauro can hold someone who's intangible, Ganondorf can escape easily.

We've seen other forms killed and he revives. We actually see Midna attack him. Based on that, Sauron can't hurt him.

Ganondorf has TK as well, he's many times stronger than Sauron, and immune to Sauron's attacks. I don't see how you think Sauron could possibly win.

Bulbin can hurt him just not defeat him. Surviving an attack doesn't mean you're impervious. Back your claim.

He can die. We have seen Sauron show the abilities to pack greater power and abilities than Link who killed him.

Sauron has shown greater tk feats so he wins this little tk showdown hands down.

Dorf is not stronger since he is weaker than Link. Sauron swings his mace and Dorf dies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Swords. Arrows are much faster than swords.

And Ganondorf dodges arrows and blocks swords unless Link does something fancy.

Bulbin can hurt him just not defeat him. Surviving an attack doesn't mean you're impervious. Back your claim.

He shrugged off the attack and showed no signs of injury, able to fight at full strength. The claim has been backed.

He can die. We have seen Sauron show the abilities to pack greater power and abilities than Link who killed him.

Sauron does not show greater power than the Master Sword.

Sauron has shown greater tk feats so he wins this little tk showdown hands down.

Dorf is not stronger since he is weaker than Link. Sauron swings his mace and Dorf dies.

Both Ganondorf and Link are stronger than Sauron. Sauron's mace breaks, and Ganon steps on him.

Originally posted by The Scenario
And Ganondorf dodges arrows and blocks swords unless Link does something fancy.

He shrugged off the attack and showed no signs of injury, able to fight at full strength. The claim has been backed.

Sauron does not show greater power than the Master Sword.

Both Ganondorf and Link are stronger than Sauron. Sauron's mace breaks, and Ganon steps on him.

Yes, he does. We see him crush foes and send them flying backwards whereas we see other swords block the master sword and show nowhere near the power Sauron wields.

Here you go making things up again. Sauron kills him. We see pointy physical objects cut and kill him. Quit just making things up.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Can someone ploz show me Sauron's superior strength? Should be worth the gander.

Originally posted by BloodRain

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qj139dE7tFI

2:45-3:20

"Wheeeee"

Q1: What makes you so sure that smacking 10 people away is so much greater than smacking a car sized boar?

Q2: Is the Extended cut of the trilogy worth watching?

Originally posted by BloodRain
"Wheeeee"

Q1: What makes you so sure that smacking 10 people away is so much greater than smacking a car sized boar?

Q2: Is the Extended cut of the trilogy worth watching?

If you aren't objective enough to acknowledge this you can see why I don't post any videos for you. Its a waste of time. You just cite nonsense and downplay.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Link can't do so when someone is resisting him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Dorf can't either with a sword.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron swings his mace and foes with shields go flying back thirty feet just in the general vicinity.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you aren't objective enough to acknowledge this you can see why I don't post any videos for you. Its a waste of time. You just cite nonsense and downplay.

Lol why are you so agitated and defensive?

I only asked you your opinion and why you think its a greater feat, as I assume you do.

Seriously, chill..

Originally posted by BloodRain
What does that have to do with what I said?

What does that have to do with what I said?

I just pointed that out..

Lol why are you so agitated and defensive?

I only asked you your opinion and why you think its a greater feat, as I assume you do.

Seriously, chill..

If you can't see the difference between massacring armored foes by just striking in their general vicinity to someone who can be parried throughout the game and who cannot exert this much strength in combat then you aren't being honest.

Yeah, see, I don't see the part where I mentioned Link or Ganondorf in my post.

Lol, if you read my post, which its getting clear you failed to, you would know that not once did I say anything about Link. I asked why you're so certain that knocking 10 guys at once is far and away above knocking a car sized boar around. Thats it. No secret message between the lines here..

Originally posted by BloodRain
Yeah, see, I don't see the part where I mentioned Link or Ganondorf in my post.

Lol, if you read my post, which its getting clear you failed to, you would know that not once did I say anything about Link. I asked why you're so certain that knocking 10 guys at once is far and away above knocking a car sized boar around. Thats it. No secret message between the lines here..

That is the problem with picking and choosing. Bulbin obviously by direct comparison of weapons alone was much weaker than Sauron. It is a direct comparison.

So you're choosing to outright ignore a feat that happens literally a second earlier? 😐

Anyhow, whether or not you accept it or not, I'm still asking why you think Sauron's feat is superior.

Originally posted by BloodRain
So you're choosing to outright ignore a feat that happens literally a second earlier? 😐

Anyhow, whether or not you accept it or not, I'm still asking why you think Sauron's feat is superior.

A direct comparison to which Sauron is undoubtedly superior to Bulbin.

We don't see Sauron interact with a boar. We do see them both strike foes with big weapons.

Okay so it counts, so what makes Sauron's feat superior in that sense?

Originally posted by BloodRain
Okay so it counts, so what makes Sauron's feat superior in that sense?

What about the fact that a horse weighs over 10 men, and the boar is clearly larger than a horse?

How much greater is the distance difference to the weight difference?

Originally posted by quanchi112

If you aren't objective enough to acknowledge this

Its funny because you said it.