Originally posted by abhilegend
Like who? Banner is without a peer in the field of Gamma radiation but in other areas? Lex shits on his feats.
He's been referred to as a peer to Doom and Richards both, and has outsmarted both. He's the authority on gamma radiation, true, but in terms of science and tech as a whole, he's very much a peer to both of those guys. To that end, I don't see Lex being far smarter than Banner. Smarter, sure, but not to the lengths you're making it out to be.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's been referred to as a peer to Doom and Richards both, and has outsmarted both. He's the authority on gamma radiation, true, but in terms of science and tech as a whole, he's very much a peer to both of those guys. To that end, I don't see Lex being far smarter than Banner. Smarter, sure, but not to the lengths you're making it out to be.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So if Banner is a peer to Reed and Doom and Lex is smarter than Banner IYO, why do you keep touting that Reed and Doom are in a different category of intelligence than Lex because apparently they have better feats?
Because Reed and Doom do have better feats than Lex. Lex in turn has better feats than Banner and is, in all likelihood, smarter than him. That said, Banner's intelligent enough not to be completely out of his element when dealing with Doom and Richards as shown by direct comparisons and is also quite cunning as well (certainly more so than Reed) which is another reason and factor why Lex wouldn't shit all over him in a prep war.
Plus there's the fact that at least with Doom, he's a master in both science and magic which furthers the gap between him and Luthor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because Reed and Doom do have better feats than Lex. Lex in turn has better feats than Banner and is, in all likelihood, smarter than him. That said, Banner's intelligent enough not to be completely out of his element when dealing with Doom and Richards as shown by direct comparisons and is also quite cunning as well (certainly more so than Reed) which is another reason and factor why Lex wouldn't shit all over him in a prep war.Plus there's the fact that at least with Doom, he's a master in both science and magic which furthers the gap between him and Luthor.
You make it sound like Doom and Reed are FAR superior, but in all likely hood, Lex would definitely be a peer to both.
Originally posted by abhilegendLex is a peer to Reed and Doom, but they are still better.
So if Banner is a peer to Reed and Doom and Lex is smarter than Banner IYO, why do you keep touting that Reed and Doom are in a different category of intelligence than Lex because apparently they have better feats?
To put it in sports terms, the top 10 greatest players will be peers to each other, but #1 will be usually considered a lot better than #10.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because Reed and Doom do have better feats than Lex. Lex in turn has better feats than Banner and is, in all likelihood, smarter than him. That said, Banner's intelligent enough not to be completely out of his element when dealing with Doom and Richards as shown by direct comparisons and is also quite cunning as well (certainly more so than Reed) which is another reason and factor why Lex wouldn't shit all over him in a prep war.Plus there's the fact that at least with Doom, he's a master in both science and magic which furthers the gap between him and Luthor.
Originally posted by Mindset
Lex is a peer to Reed and Doom, but they are still better.To put it in sports terms, the top 10 greatest players will be peers to each other, but #1 will be usually considered a lot better than #10.
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Banner, Starks, Pym, T'Challa are also "rivals/peer" too of Reed/Doom, but generally Doom/Reed are portrayed to be smartest of the 6. I highly doubt there is a gap between Bruce and Lex's intelligence, especially we when know that Bruce nowadays is a little bit more then just a gamma radiation scientist.
Originally posted by Golgo13
If he did, that's pretty big. Fans always go wild over characters creating universes and Lex did. I always thought it was uber of Reed creating a pocket universe for Thing and Pre-boot Lex has matched it.
Pym(Infinte Mansion), T'challa done it before in Doomwar IIRC. Heck I know that Steel made one too, but he is not really all that high intelligences.
Originally posted by Iron-man
It really entire universe, it's just another space-time dimension. There is a difference.Pym(Infinte Mansion), T'challa done it before in Doomwar IIRC. Heck I know that Steel made one too, but he is not really all that high intelligences.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Pym just found "infinite dimension", T'challa hasn't done anything like that. Steel has created tesserects out of already existing tesserects, he hasn't created a pocket universe out of nothing.
T'challa hasn't made that, but he did made nowhere room teleporting device in Doomwar#3 IIRC.
Dimension/Universe are interchangeable words. Steel made a dimension for what it's worth.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3074654-134.jpg
It's not like Reed's pocket universes actually process all of the universe in them, it's just unknown sized dimension with a city in it.
Banner created a machine that could scan the multiverse in moments, created a time portal using a fragment of Mjolnir, downloaded his own consciousness onto his past self on the fly, out prepped Doom, Reed, Pym, T'Challa and several other of the Earth's top eggheads at once, used "Bannertech" for all kinds of crazy effects, been stated as Earth's most brilliant mind etc. He currently develops new inventions every week and is on the way to curing the Inhumans of their Terrigen-altered dna.
To be honest when it comes to science Bruce Banner has pretty much done it all. I'd say the only kind of feats he lacks are developing tech to defeat extremely powerful beings but in his defense, he has the Hulk for that.
Originally posted by Iron-man
Pym didn't create underspace, but he created Infinte Mansion which had infinite space, and could teleport anywhere in the universe.T'challa hasn't made that, but he did made nowhere room teleporting device in Doomwar#3 IIRC.
Dimension/Universe are interchangeable words. Steel made a dimension for what it's worth.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3074654-134.jpgIt's not like Reed's pocket universes actually process all of the universe in them, it's just unknown sized dimension with a city in it.
Teleporters? Lex was making them while he was a teenager.
Nah, dimensions=/=universes. Not that impressive, everybody has created some kind of dimensions. When its called a pocket universe, then its impressive.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Banner created a machine that could scan the multiverse in moments, created a time portal using a fragment of Mjolnir, downloaded his own consciousness onto his past self on the fly, out prepped Doom, Reed, Pym, T'Challa and several other of the Earth's top eggheads at once, used "Bannertech" for all kinds of crazy effects, been stated as Earth's most brilliant mind etc. He currently develops new inventions every week and is on the way to curing the Inhumans of their Terrigen-altered dna.To be honest when it comes to science Bruce Banner has pretty much done it all. I'd say the only kind of feats he lacks are developing tech to defeat extremely powerful beings but in his defense, he has the Hulk for that.
Cho, now in charge of the Olympus Group, with Hebe working as his assistant, spends half a trillion dollars in order to have Bruce Banner build a device capable of scanning the multiverse to find Hercules. However, it is determined that this will take over a billion years to work.
Not bad but Brainiac 5 did create a machine that searched countless timelines from multiverse in a matter of moments and Lex rebuked his tech as being rudimentary in Final Night.
None of other those things is particularly that impressive when you consider the context.
Originally posted by abhilegendHere comes the downplaying. You act like your opinion is factual. Bruce's feats are very impressive which is the point. You acting like they are no big deal is just downplaying.
Pym only created doorways from infinite mansion, its nothing noteworthy.Teleporters? Lex was making them while he was a teenager.
Nah, dimensions=/=universes. Not that impressive, everybody has created some kind of dimensions. When its called a pocket universe, then its impressive.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Actually the machine which was built to scan multiverse for hercules would've taken a billion years to just search a single universe.
Not bad but Brainiac 5 did create a machine that searched countless timelines from multiverse in a matter of moments and Lex rebuked his tech as being rudimentary in Final Night.
None of other those things is particularly that impressive when you consider the context.
