Marvel to take over SW comics in 2015

As I said, amazon reviews hardly mean all that much. They're user reviews that lack the professionalism of critic reviews, not to mention the standard for universal measurement and comparison. When a critic reviews a book, they do so using the same standards they apply with any book (in theory at least; in the case of Wonder Woman it would usually be held to a higher standard than KotOR in any event) whereas when a user reviews a book they have no such obligation and the score they give is usually arbitrary and imprecise. They are also an aggregate of a small sample size, that typically draws in the more extreme views on the products. As I said, it's a minority, but a vocal minority that seem to have issues with the new Wonder Woman, and they are a prime example of the type of people that would write reviews on the amazon website (you'll also get fanboys posting reviews as well of course, which is why there are so many 5 star reviews for the book as well). Either way, hardly the best measure of critical success you could have picked.

As for the other two, now you're just choosing to post random reviews. I can do the same:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2012/08/15/wonder-woman-12-review

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/21/wonder-woman-23-review-2

From IGN no less, a far more reputable critic.

Here's a few reviews for some of the series I mentioned as being mediocre earlier:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/09/05/the-star-wars-1-review
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/10/03/the-star-wars-2-review
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2010/07/09/star-wars-the-old-republic-1-review

Such consistency.

BTW I can give you plenty examples of good SW stories. Try the KotOR games for starters. I don't hate the comic series, I just don't find it at all spectacular.

If DC, and their better talent, actually cared about Star Wars, I'm sure they would produce some great books around the franchise, but as I said, most top talent aren't really all that interested in writing Star Wars.

And say what you want about DC, but no other company produces as many excellent series as they do, never mind consistency, especially if you include Vertigo. I mean, currently they are releasing all of the following:

1. Batman
2. Wonder Woman
3. Green Arrow
4. Animal Man
5. Swamp Thing
6. Astro City
7. Coffin Hill
8. Fables
9. Fairest
10. 100 Bullets: Brother Lono
11. Trillium
12. The Sandman: Overture
13. The Unwritten
14. The Wake

No other company comes close to releasing that quantity of truly excellent titles.

As for the other two, now you're just choosing to post random reviews. I can do the same:

Sure, meaning it has... mixed reviews.

Here's a few reviews for some of the series I mentioned as being mediocre earlier:

And yea, though that one has the excuse of being based directly on an early draft.

The original material, though? KotoR, Legacy, Knight Errant Dark Times, etc.? Strong adventure stories that get the style very well.

If DC, and their better talent, actually cared about Star Wars, I'm sure they would produce some great books around the franchise,

Presumably DC cares about the rest of their books, yet they got a lot of flops.

Also, if we count Eisner award nominations from last year, Dark Horse got 7. DC got 3.

but as I said, most top talent aren't really all that interested in writing Star Wars.

I do think you underestimate the draw of something as big as SW... but anyway, that goes back to what I was saying. DC wouldn't put on anyone better than DH uses, and probably worse.

And say what you want about DC, but no other company produces as many excellent series as they do, never mind consistency, especially if you include Vertigo.

"Never mind consistency" indeed, especially if you talk the main line, which drops your list down to... 5 books. One of which, as covered, is controversial and has a good number of detractors.

And all from a company with something like 5 times the output of anyone except for Marvel.

Image has Walking Dead, Saga, Chew, Jupiter's Legacy, Invincible, and a pretty big wrack of comics I admittedly haven't checked.

Dark Horse has Hellboy, BRPD, Abe Sapien, Umbrella Academy, Usagi Yojimbo, SW LegacyII, Empowered, Blade of the Immortal.

Marvel, Hawkeye, Scarlet Spider, Daredevil, FF, Ultimate Spider-man, All-New X-men, Invincible Hulk, Young Avengers, Captain Marvel, X-men Legacy, Wolverine and the X-men, Superior Foes of Spider-Man... probably a lot more not off the top of my head, I don't really follow the avengers stuff admittedly.

Vertigo is admittedly very good, but they've (1) got a different editorial staff, (2) largely do creator owned projects, and (3) work in an entirely different genre. Star Wars is pulp SF adventure, I don't think even well-done pulp SF adventure is something you'd list as 'great' judging by your lists.

Oh yea, and DC's no-marriage/no good relationships rule would be no Mara Jade stories, no Han/Leia stuff, no Zayne/Jarael.... ^^

The Dark Horse nominations were for the most part incredibly random. Best Archival Collection/Project? LOL.

Also it's well known that the industry awards like to give as much attention to the non-Big Two stuff as possible, the only reason the (massively overrated) Hawkeye's getting so much love is because of how it resembles an indie comic. And getting best writer for that was laughable, the only noteworthy thing about that book is clearly the art.

And for what it's worth, the nominations that DC did get (namely the cover art ones) were far more relevant than those that Dark Horse were given.

"Never mind consistency" indeed, especially if you talk the main line, which drops your list down to... 5 books. One of which, as covered, is controversial and has a good number of detractors.

And that was because I was listing the books that are truly great (I could have also listed stuff like Batman and..., Justice League, Superman Unchained and The Movement etc. all of which are excellent). If I were to do the same with Marvel, I'd literally only be able to post a single book: Daredevil. The difference between my lists and yours is that I genuinely included the best of the best; I mean X-Men Legacy? That book's an absolute joke, that's practically ruined a character for me, filled with painfully bad art and terrible attempts at humour. That you would compare it to the ones I brought up is absolutely ridiculous. Likewise, Wolverine and the X-Men was another huge disappointment, being such a big fan of previous young x-men style series, only to find that it's been relegated to a laughably bad comedy series with ridiculous storylines.

I noticed you also included series that aren't current, such as Umbrella Academy.

And no, you don't get to dismiss Wonder Woman for the reasons you've brought up, it's nowhere near as controversial as you'd have people believe, and you didn't have a single valid complaint about the series.

Vertigo is admittedly very good, but they've (1) got a different editorial staff, (2) largely do creator owned projects, and (3) work in an entirely different genre.

No, it's still DC, and I still has access to the same talent the company as a whole attracts. You seem to give far too little credit to the talent, and btw any genres they do cover is also handled by The New 52 somewhere or another (primarily the dark line of the New 52). The talent is still the same for the most part, such as Snyder, Lemire and Azzarello all producing great work for both Vertigo and The New 52, and of course people like Mike Carey, Kurt Busiek, Neil Gaiman (!) doing just Vertigo stuff, and Geoff Johns and Charles Soule just doing New 52 stuff. The difference is that Vertigo only do a handful of series and as such are more particular with who gets to work on their books, whereas the NEW 52 can't help but take on B Grade and C Grade writers as well simply because they produce so many books.

And all from a company with something like 5 times the output of anyone except for Marvel.

This is also not true, it doesn't even have double the output of Image or Dark Horse.