Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😬Did I say Spectre being manipulated was a low feat for Spectre or otherwise demeaning to him? All I said was that Spectre being manipulated played directly into Alexander Luthor's hands for his plan to recreate the multiverse. Reading and comprehending are your friends here, bud.
The fact that Odin shook the fabric of reality while weakened should speak for itself.
Lowballing? Really? Color me shocked. Malekith trying to suffocate Odin while he's actually deep in the Odinsleep is a poor example to bring up, too, btw, but I can't say I'm surprised. Surtur is on Odin's level to begin with, so Odin struggling with him isn't a low feat at all.
What's that supposed to mean? Shocking the fabric of reality is done by everyone and their mothers. I was asking for a feat where Odin beats anybody who was shitstomping skyfathers. Just draw a comparison, Shazam performed better than an amped on universe's magic Captain Marvel while weakened. That's above skyfather grade. I get that you don't have any feat for odin on that level. I totally do.
Bringing up Spectre's low feats is valid but Odin's low feats aren't? Yeah, surtur is on his level and Spectre is above that level. Shazam downed him for a moment, that's why its above Odin's paygrade.
So we know Odin can survive in space without an issue and yet someone brings up Malekith trying to suffocate him with a pillow. MAYBE it occurring during the Odin Sleep, a hibernation like state, might in fact have something to do with it.
I just see absolutely NO REASON to bring it up aside from explicitly trying to talk shit for the sake of it. I mean, it's not like anyone would be dumb enough to think it's in anyway relevant to a fight. Unless a severely weakened and drained Odin entered the Odin Sleep and someone came up on him with a pillow. But I don't think that's very likely in a fight.
It's not everyday you seem someone failing at lowballing.
Originally posted by abhilegendThat was a fact relevant to that fight unlike your pillow smothering non combat feat.
Just like someone tried to use mordru weakening Shazam and atomic bombs to lowball spectre? Pot, kettle much rage?I'm not surprised however, you were always the biggest hypocrite, whining crybaby I've ever seen.
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In both these instances I've pointed out context. Noting that Shazam was weakened before his fight with Spectre:
Isn't lowballing. That's a fact. I noted Spectre's condition as well.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You know, Captain Marvel was beating up the Spectre with punches that were said to pack the force of a small atomic bomb. I don't really think that means anything but I'm just putting it out there before a certain someone begins to lowball. Just want to make it clear its all relative.
This was actually an attempt to prevent lowballing.
Well, whatever.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Spectre was manipulated into weakening the current age of magic and ushering in the new age of magic. Context. If Spectre didn't go apeshit, that plan would have never have panned out.You honestly think Shazam in the RoE shits on anything Odin has done? He gave a good fight and lost. And he was prepared for Spectre, too. So unless you can prove that the RoE offers more power to Shazam than all of Asgard (not even factoring in RKT) can give to Odin, I'm just going to laugh this off as nonsense. Shazam has hardly any combat feats or even space cheese feats under his own power, let alone on the scale of Odin.
I don't think anyone remotely objective would ever put the Wizard Shazam over Odin.
Well according to D.C. shazam is supposed to be 100 times more powerful in the ROE. Implied power I would think he should be well above odin but to date he has shown absolutely nothing to prove he's even in odin's league. Mordru shits on him like there's no tomorrow on top of that. Unfortunatly Shazam suffers from the same sickness that has befallen billy.
D.C. don't give to shits about him. And its sad casue he's one of my most favorite characters.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So why bring it at all? What's that supposed to mean in this discussion except you somehow demeaning the feat of Spectre killing multiversal level of magic users?What's that supposed to mean? Shocking the fabric of reality is done by everyone and their mothers. I was asking for a feat where Odin beats anybody who was shitstomping skyfathers. Just draw a comparison, Shazam performed better than an amped on universe's magic Captain Marvel while weakened. That's above skyfather grade. I get that you don't have any feat for odin on that level. I totally do.
Bringing up Spectre's low feats is valid but Odin's low feats aren't? Yeah, surtur is on his level and Spectre is above that level. Shazam downed him for a moment, that's why its above Odin's paygrade.
Shazam was replenished by mordru before his fight with the specter, both billy and shazam did well against the specter, especially billy.
I don't know how shazam being weakened has anything to do with Spectre's power level which was firmly established at that point. If anything a weakened shazam doing that well and outperforming a universally amped captain marvel is ****ing beastly showing, but somehow Rage and other marvel fanboys think it shows Spectre was that weak. They are weirdly wired or something. If a weakened Odin downs Galactus or something, we will see how that means Odin is beastly not that Galactus is weak as shit.
Originally posted by zeelNo, he was not replenished.
Shazam was replenished by mordru before his fight with the specter, both billy and shazam did well against the specter, especially billy.
Originally posted by abhilegendShazam didn't outperform an amped Billy. Reread the fight.
I don't know how shazam being weakened has anything to do with Spectre's power level which was firmly established at that point. If anything a weakened shazam doing that well and outperforming a universally amped captain marvel is ****ing beastly showing, but somehow Rage and other marvel fanboys think it shows Spectre was that weak. They are weirdly wired or something. If a weakened Odin downs Galactus or something, we will see how that means Odin is beastly not that Galactus is weak as shit.