which would you eliminate from society. only pick 1

Which one would you vote to if you somehow had the chance.

Does banning murder also ban manslaughter, and killing in war, and other human on human killings? If so that would make it more interesting. If not, then I guess I'd eliminate rape.

It bans manslaughter and other forms, but not war

Forgetting practicality for a moment, probably murderers, as I class them as being the worst of the bunch.

I get that you hate gays, but putting them on this list makes you look like a ****, tbh.

Hmm, probably still rape then.

Murderers, rapists, pedophiles, and homosexuals?! One of these things is not like the other... ermm

I'd get rid of murder

Murder's the obvious choice here. Not sure what the logical argument behind the others would be. Ending lives unfairly can't be given a price, even given how horrific rape and pedophilia can be.

And yeah, even including homosexuals makes you look like a bigot. Intentional or not, gotta watch how you're perceived.

Rape far, far, far exceeds the numbers of murder. Rape can lead to murder. Murder is dealt with in an appropriate way in most places and can be much more easily investigated.

Not having rape would have far more positive effects on the world.

Homosexuals. Obviously.

I'd pick rape, because rape targets women more and that's wrong.

Men are the target of murder more than women, so it's not really a huge deal imo.

Murders. You cannot recover from death.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Rape far, far, far exceeds the numbers of murder. Rape can lead to murder. Murder is dealt with in an appropriate way in most places and can be much more easily investigated.

Not having rape would have far more positive effects on the world.

Well, the "rape leads to murder" argument is somewhat invalidated within our thought experiment here. It couldn't lead to murder if you stopped all murder.

Otherwise, I don't know enough about the numbers to debate with you. It's just...I can't disagree with most of this, but killing a person - ending their life - just seems on a different level to me. Rape is horrific; no doubt. But like, would you stop 100 rapes or 10 unjust murders? Horrible choice, I know, but I'd have to stop the murders. Even if it's dealt with more fairly by the judicial system, those 10 innocent people are still dead.

There's not a wrong answer here. I don't want to seem too vehement. That's just my take.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I'd pick rape, because rape targets women more and that's wrong.

Men are the target of murder more than women, so it's not really a huge deal imo.

I laughed. If I had a cookie to give you, you would have it.

Originally posted by Digi
Well, the "rape leads to murder" argument is somewhat invalidated within our thought experiment here. It couldn't lead to murder if you stopped all murder.

What I'm saying is that eliminating rape would also eliminate a portion of murders.

Originally posted by Digi

Otherwise, I don't know enough about the numbers to debate with you. It's just...I can't disagree with most of this, but killing a person - ending their life - just seems on a different level to me. Rape is horrific; no doubt. But like, would you stop 100 rapes or 10 unjust murders? Horrible choice, I know, but I'd have to stop the murders. Even if it's dealt with more fairly by the judicial system, those 10 innocent people are still dead.

There's not a wrong answer here. I don't want to seem too vehement. That's just my take.

It seems like a simplistic comparison though. Like I said, I am considering the ramifications within society. (take for example some places in Africa, where an estimated 1 in 3 woman will be raped in their life).

I agree with you that there's no simple answer, tbh, I mostly engaged you cause you said "Murder's the obvious choice here. Not sure what the logical argument behind the others would be." which I took as basically the opposite of what you said now 😛

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, probably still rape them.

Fixed.

I pick eliminating pedophilia. It's that kind of crap that can traumatize children to become killers, rapists, or both as they get older.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Rape far, far, far exceeds the numbers of murder.

The UN did a study apparently that shows there are 250,000 rapes recorded annually, with over 60 countries recorded.

In 2012, homicide statistics show an estimate of over 460,000 intentional murders a year, not even counting shit like Involuntary Manslaughter which, per Big C, is covered.

I'd choose murder, without a doubt.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Forgetting practicality for a moment, probably murderers, as I class them as being the worst of the bunch.

I get that you hate gays, but putting them on this list makes you look like a ****, tbh.

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He is from Russia though. That was probably a state requirement.

Anyone who votes for rape will be banned. I don't want to be removed from society.