Originally posted by Trocity
Why do we assume women are just weak children who can't do anything physical? What if it was a large, fat woman that you couldn't chuck off?
If you're a large fat woman and you are trying to rape a young man, then that's clearly rape.
If you're a large fat woman and you're trying to physically attack a young man, chances are, you'll still get you ass beat. I'm sure you've seen the videos of high school girls thinking it was okay to confront high school boys in fights and they get the utter living shit beat out of them: including the fat ones. It never ends well.
This disparity remains well into adulthood. While women can certainly hurt a man, the domestic abuse scenarios where than man is the aggressor, the woman ends up in a much worse physical state.
Sorry, I don't buy into the scientifically inaccurate notion that a teenage boy is defenseless and helpless against the average female aggressor.
Originally posted by Trocity
It makes me really uncomfortable that you guys are trying to make excuses for women preying on young boys.
Then be uncomfortable: your feelings don't matter because none of us are clinical psychologists or therapists. And the world will still contain an absurd amount of young men (minors) trying to bang women (adults) regardless of whether or not you like it.
Originally posted by Trocity
Why should the onus be on the boy to chuck off the woman? Why can't she just, I dunno, not rape him?
Oh, I see. You're interpreting my scenario in a specific way.
I'm talking about a physical confrontation: an actual fight. Not a rape.
Originally posted by Trocity
We have this strange view in society that young boys always want older women to bang them, and that young girls never WANT older guys to bang them.
1. Young MEN do want to bang sexually mature women. And anyone who tries to shame young MEN for being sexually attracted to adult women are retarded. This is basic biology. We are still animals. We want to f*ck the shit out of other and often.
2. Young women do want to bang adult men. This is also basic biology. But there is a significant difference between a young woman who has this desire and a young man: there's a very clear physical power dynamic that cannot be hand-waived.
Originally posted by Trocity
Boys know what they are doing and want it, but for some reason girls are always manipulated or forced. Girls hit puberty and mature faster than men, but we treat them the opposite. This is a very dangerous line of thinking.
Not true. Many teenage girls - read: underage - also try to "win" games with adult men, tricking them into sex, bragging to their friends, or feeling proud about it. They are predators, manipulative, and possibly ruining lives with their antics. Some adult men also target minors (both male and female) and trick them into sexual relationships with all sorts or predatory tactics. They are pieces of shit, too.
But there is also a large set of perfectly normal young men and women who just want to have sex with attractive people. And there is nothing wrong with that - that is normal.
However, there's a clear problem with adult men trying to bang young women regardless of what the young woman wants. As I've stated multiple times. There's a physical power dynamic that both parties would be subconsciously aware of.
Originally posted by Trocity
Look at that picture of the 14 year old boy who was preyed on by the 24 year old that I posted on the last page. You think that shrimp can chuck 20 year old girls off of him like "a sack of potatoes"? Yikes, man.
Depends on the 14 year old. I could grow a full beard by the time I was 13 and I was absurdly strong. That is normal for my family; we just matured young.
I do admit my type is not common. Not all people physically mature at the same rate.
I've seen some men who do not appear to complete puberty until their early 20s and there's nothing wrong with them. They are just "late bloomers."
Originally posted by Trocity
Weird takes here, seriously.
The fact that you want to hand waive around the physical power dynamic between men and women, boys and girls, is disturbing to me.* Almost all people are aware of this marked physical difference between human males and females. I'm not too sure what your angle is with denying this. Before I patronize you or talk down to you, I'd like to flesh out your perspective more on this - perhaps I'm being too harsh and you have a good reason for not directly addressing my point.
Let me flesh out my point a bit better so you can be more equipped to disagree/respond:
It appears you do not want to acknowledge the physical differences and the physical dangers presented to young women (or even girls for some of these situations) vs. young men. The two scenarios are NOT equal. Also, it's very important to note that humans do not magically become wise sages when they are 18. Some mature socially before 18, some never mature socially at or after 18. But you can't just tell everyone to stop having sex until they can pass a social competency/psychological fitness test (this is actually something I've half-serious suggested).
For example, it might be clinically recommended that people with severe and untreated Borderline Personality Disorder should never be allowed to enter into sexual relationships regardless of age. Watch a suggestion like that create an uprising/fury among many different groups of people.
*By the science:
We start to notice the power dynamic between human male and females around the age of 9 and it starts to go well beyond statistical significance by age 10:
This was a cross-sectional study involving 312 children (10.8 ± 0.4 years). The physical fitness assessment employed sets of aerobic fitness, strength, flexibility, speed, agility, and balance. The boys presented higher values in all selected tests, except tests of balance and flexibility, in which girls scored better.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22561975/