Older Women Seducing Underage Boys

Originally posted by Trocity
This is a lot to reply to so I probably will tomorrow. A lot of it I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Young men WANT to bang older women. Young women WANT to bang older men. But there is a physical power dynamic between the two that makes it different.

Yup, you've got it.

Also, I can think of arguments against my position, as well.

I wouldn't necessarily say "older" both young men and women (minors). More like they want to bang attractive people and men are most attractive, according to data we've collected (and verified over multiple studies), at 32. So, yeah, you could make an argument with the research that it's natural for young women (minors) to want to get with post college age men. But that might be biology looking for a hunter and gatherer who has resources and peak health - not a modern day situation.

Men are far easier to predict: we find 22-25 year old women most attractive at almost all ages and that's hilarious to me. Prime-baby-making. Men are rather simplistic. 🙂

"Me see hot woman. ugh, baby make. WEEE!" <- every caveman brain haerm

Originally posted by Trocity
But the salient point is both young people want it and the older person is taking advantage of this. The man doesn't need to use his physical superiority to force the young girl who already wants to have sex to have sex with him.

But that's not how power dynamics work. Talk to young women and women about their dating experiences and having to deal with anger from men. You might change your mind. Saying "no" isn't as easy as a decision for young women as it is for young men from a physical security (external locus of control) perspective.

Originally posted by Trocity
It's bad for older women to prey on young boys just as it is for older men to prey on young women.

This is obvious and no one disagrees with this point. We are not talking about the same thing.

Originally posted by Trocity
Also I dunno why you felt the need to say something like "Then be uncomfortable. Your feelings don't matter because none of us are clinical psychologists or therapists" lmao wtf. Are you just trying to be a prick or?

We are both in the same boat because I used 'us' in that. So if I put us both in the same boat, you can probably be sure I wasn't being a prick.

If I explain it to you, then it could seem like I'm patronizing you. But I'll explain it anyway because you took the wrong interpretation away:

This is an uncomfortable topic and professionals who do this for living are far better equipped to discuss this topic. We are not and probably should not be comfortable with this topic as we are laymen. If we were comfortable with the topic, we'd either be mental health professionals or creeps.

Other than the misunderstanding about "uncomfortable", this was an enjoyable conversation. 👆

Originally posted by dadudemon
Saying "no" isn't as easy as a decision for young women as it is for young men from a physical security (external locus of control) perspective.

Have you ever said 'no' to a woman? Some of them can become incredulous, I know men do the same thing but that side of it is well known, never really seen anyone talk about how some women can't handle being turned down for sex. And I'm talking about women who would consider themselves feminist and liberal throwing out comments like; 'I can't believe I had to ask you twice to come back to my place!' or a rage filled 'What are you, some kind of ***?' Then they get even madder when you point out their hypocrisy so in all honesty you're better off just having sex with them. 😱

Originally posted by samhain
Have you ever said 'no' to a woman?

Yes. Multiple times.

And it didn't go over well 2 times. 3 if you count a messaging conversation where I turned down a very large gal for misrepresenting herself as fit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes. Multiple times.

And it didn't go over well 2 times. 3 if you count a messaging conversation where I turned down a very large gal for misrepresenting herself as fit.

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If you are arguing why some adults should be able to **** some children, then you are losing.

Very bizarre case - the sons of Finnish-Canadian fashion magnate Peter Nygard are attempting to sue their father in court, claiming he sent his girlfriend (apparently a sex worker) to rape them while in their teens! 😱

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/sons-accuse-fashion-boss-nygard-041501093.html

Originally posted by roughrider
Very bizarre case - the sons of Finnish-Canadian fashion magnate Peter Nygard are attempting to sue their father in court, claiming he sent his girlfriend (apparently a sex worker) to rape them while in their teens! 😱

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/sons-accuse-fashion-boss-nygard-041501093.html

I've heard about this. This is a "thing" among the wealthy. They'd hire an expensive escort to help their sons lose their virginity.

It's an idea rooted in machismo culture. Kind of lame. It's the "become a man" bullshit. Why can't they do it like the Jews and just hold a bar mitzvah or something? Wait, cost...maybe that's why. lol Cheap rich bastards...

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've heard about this. This is a "thing" among the wealthy. They'd hire an expensive escort to help their sons lose their virginity.

It's an idea rooted in machismo culture. Kind of lame. It's the "become a man" bullshit. Why can't they do it like the Jews and just hold a bar mitzvah or something? Wait, cost...maybe that's why. lol Cheap rich bastards...

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It's more common than I thought, then.

Once again, Whirly's depth of knowledge from stuff happening all over the world, is impressive. I learned something new.

Originally posted by dadudemon
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It's more common than I thought, then.

Once again, Whirly's depth of knowledge from stuff happening all over the world, is impressive. I learned something new.

If they get heard in court, are they actually going to get on the stand and say "The sex was bad, your honour" ? 🙄

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Happens in third world countries and places like KSA with the maids all the time.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Hmm, maybe that's why Jim Davidson moved to Dubai.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
HHa, did he really. Dubai is built on the bones of dead Indians.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Yeah he did. Then he came back to England to make a few stand up and I think that's when he made his adult pantos, which, I'll be honest. They're pretty decent.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Never really a fan not even in his late 70's, early eighties heyday. One or two jokes are funny, but up the elephant and round the castle, chalky etc... long past the sell by.

I'd still say a joke of his I liked. "The people in Dubai don't understand the flinstones.The people in Abu Dabi do."

Originally posted by roughrider
If they get heard in court, are they actually going to get on the stand and say "The sex was bad, your honour" ? 🙄

If the charge is being bad at sex then maybe.

When it comes to adult females and teen males I think it's less about them being physically vulnerable and more about being emotionally vulnerable.

In the right setting yes a woman could physically rape a dude. I've heard of cases where the guy was drunk and was able to be raped.

The Creepy Female Teacher Epidemic

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The hypocrisy is unreal.

Nice.