I'm gonna post a scan about the Worthy according to the Watcher.Its from History Of The Marvel Universe.And no its not a handbook.Like the What Ifs, Watcher is doing a breaking the 4th wall feat.
Again!I think Thanos can take some of the Worthy.But the numbers gain would eventually overwhelm him.The Worthies wins but with casualties at least.
Originally posted by leonidas
^that's..... an utterly ludicrous comparison. enchantment>adamantium?? wtf? and in the past mags HAS controlled the hammer, so there's that. i'm not going to bother commenting on anything else-deconstructing all that is more bran's thing. suffice to say most of it is wrong or an invalid way of arguing on the forum. but you've heard all that before, so, meh. believe as you will.
Kuurth's hammer was different, it was just as unstoppable as he was (at least when at FP).
Originally posted by h1a8Yes he has and you have no clue as to the instances im talking about, a Captain Universe not so long ago beat the crap out of Juggs. why is it PIS? because you say so or the fact you cling to one Juggs feat from ages and ages ago?
it hasn't been many times and most of those times are PIS. Kuurth can't be mind controlled at all.Thor's hammer is far from unstoppable as is fallen one. Kuurth hammer is, for practical purposes, unstoppable. Remember Mags can rip adamantium up yet he couldn't stop the hammer at all. That means the enchantment is stronger than adamantium itself.
Whi said he cant be mind controlled or zapped.
Youre ABC logic is terrible.
comparing a enchantment to how durable adamantium is is pure stupis
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kuurth's hammer was different, it was just as unstoppable as he was (at least when at FP).
yeah, i know. kurrth is the one who makes the difference here. hopefully though you're not tracking h1's "kurrth is a skyfather" schtick though. if you are, our e-relationship is over. 😐
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Superior numbers and weapons on the level of Mjolnir, not to mention their own plot device powers enhanced by the Serpent's enchantments.
Agree, but hard to picture what they can muster to take out pruneface.I'd bet on him outlasting them in a war of attrition.
I wouldn't. Because that would be something beyond what DP Tyrant accomplished by about 2x, even while ignoring the facts that DP Tyrant previously drained those heralds, had an army of robotic automatons to serve as fodder, and had two of those heralds fighting each other.
Originally posted by ODG
Superior numbers and weapons on the level of Mjolnir, not to mention their own plot device powers enhanced by the Serpent's enchantments.I wouldn't. Because that would be something beyond what DP Tyrant accomplished by about 2x, even while ignoring the facts that DP Tyrant previously drained those heralds, had an army of robotic automatons to serve as fodder, and had two of those heralds fighting each other.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17You could do that. I'd also direct you to Nerkkod, who gave Namor, Surfer and others a fight they remembered.
I hate u... See now you're making me want to reread Worthy stuff just to refresh my memory. The only thing I remember quite well were stuff on Nul, Angrir, and Kuurth..
Originally posted by leonidas
lolforgetting about how he stood 3 direct scream from bolt (one of them took down the illuminati) then shut him up by.....PALMING HIS HEAD?? yeah, no clear indication of power there....
He might have withstood the full of the first scream but after the machine was activated, a great deal of Black Bolt's power was drained.
Originally posted by leonidas
he bounced hulk (in mid-blitz and PLENTY po'd....) through the entire stone city, then let his generals end him. same hulk who solo'd a builder. as did thor. implications of power are transparent here, seriously.
I don't have a problem using that scene as an indication of speed or something but relative strength or something? He punched Hulk and all it accomplished was knocking him off his feet. It even looked like Hulk was smiling after the hit. I mean, I'm not denying it had to have packed a punch and clearly intended to show he was very strong but everyone already knew that.
Hulk never soloed a builder. It should be noted Thor used the return enchantment from behind to own the builder. Which is a fairly different tactic from something he used on Thanos.
Originally posted by leonidas
and thor NEVER dropped thanos for even a moment. wth? he DID catch thor's hammer then do this:
I think he's talking about this scene:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Infinity%206/infinity06k-_zps89a9765e.jpg
Originally posted by leonidas
that's thor and hyperion being blown around like leaves. and thanos had barely begun. the only thing they did was pi$$ him off. thane saved all their lives. he was never, at any point, threatened by any of them. even the lightning was made fun of, and we know what that has done to hulk..... again, clearly implied relative power levels are and were on display.
Tbf to Hyperion, he was already out of it. Thor seemed to be resisting. Obviously Thanos was very powerful and stronger then Thor (At least I hope he was because it feels like we're one story away from Beta Ray Bill palming Mjolnir or something) but things like this needs to be acknowledged or we go from one extreme to another.
And to be fair to the Avengers, one of the plot points was that they had come back from a long and difficult galactic war. It was even visualized in their ragged appearance. Just something to note.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's part of it. They're not all quite Thor level.
Doesn't mean they aren't Thor level.
The energies Angrir channeled were described as on par with Thor:
Strange pointed out that Nerkkod was channeling power unlike any they had ever faced:
Each of the individual hammers were incredibly powerful:
Sin is below Thor level for my money. Angrir, Nerkkod and so on are on the same level. Kuurth and Nul are above it.
Anyways, I have no idea how Thanos having the clear advantage over Thor in Infinity changes his odds in this thread whatsoever. He still gets completely wrecked.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He might have withstood the full of the first scream but after the machine was activated, a great deal of Black Bolt's power was drained.I don't have a problem using that scene as an indication of speed or something but relative strength or something? He punched Hulk and all it accomplished was knocking him off his feet. It even looked like Hulk was smiling after the hit. I mean, I'm not denying it had to have packed a punch and clearly intended to show he was very strong but everyone already knew that.
Hulk never soloed a builder. It should be noted Thor used the return enchantment from behind to own the builder. Which is a fairly different tactic from something he used on Thanos.
I think he's talking about this scene:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Infinity%206/infinity06k-_zps89a9765e.jpgTbf to Hyperion, he was already out of it. Thor seemed to be resisting. Obviously Thanos was very powerful and stronger then Thor (At least I hope he was because it feels like we're one story away from Beta Ray Bill palming Mjolnir or something) but things like this needs to be acknowledged or we go from one extreme to another.
And to be fair to the Avengers, one of the plot points was that they had come back from a long and difficult galactic war. It was even visualized in their ragged appearance. Just something to note.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He might have withstood the full of the first scream but after the machine was activated, a great deal of Black Bolt's power was drained.I don't have a problem using that scene as an indication of speed or something but relative strength or something? He punched Hulk and all it accomplished was knocking him off his feet. It even looked like Hulk was smiling after the hit. I mean, I'm not denying it had to have packed a punch and clearly intended to show he was very strong but everyone already knew that.
Hulk never soloed a builder. It should be noted Thor used the return enchantment from behind to own the builder. Which is a fairly different tactic from something he used on Thanos.
I think he's talking about this scene:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Infinity%206/infinity06k-_zps89a9765e.jpgTbf to Hyperion, he was already out of it. Thor seemed to be resisting. Obviously Thanos was very powerful and stronger then Thor (At least I hope he was because it feels like we're one story away from Beta Ray Bill palming Mjolnir or something) but things like this needs to be acknowledged or we go from one extreme to another.
And to be fair to the Avengers, one of the plot points was that they had come back from a long and difficult galactic war. It was even visualized in their ragged appearance. Just something to note.
3 screams is still 3 screams. maybe the last 2 were somewhat lessened, still impressive as all hell. what attack, individual or collectively, compares with even one of bb's screams?
you're right about the builder. forgot it was an aleph he one-shotted. 👆 in any event, hulk was treated like a child imo, disdainfully. he got back up but it was clear he was considered little more than a pest imo. smiling? yeah, we'll disagree there. proxima ended him very quickly. if she could, pretty sure thanos could have done the same.
not sure where in the scan i showed that you can possibly say thor was resisting.....anything. he was even without his hammer.... he was literally cast aside like a leaf.
nor am i sure what needs to be acknowledged honestly. thanos utterly tanked 2 full on lightning blasts (who else has EVER done that?), took a charged smash to the head, then proceeded to palm thor's hammer and was about to kill him and the rest of the avengers. long battles? meh, that can be said too often to really matter. thanos himself had just taken bb's screams so....yeah. imo it was clear that thanos was intended to be WELL beyond all of the avengers, tired or not. i asked this before, but for people who think the worthy win (some who think the worthy can SOLO, or that it might only take 2 or 3) where has a herald or group of heralds been shown to be even remotely threatening to thanos? that doesn't mean he can take 1000 heralds. but 7-8? i think it is certainly a debatable point at the least.
tbh, i'd say thor himself was more powerful than ANY of the worthy, aside from juggs and MAYBE nul. if thanos can treat thor like that, i've little doubt he could kill most of the worthy before the accumulation of damage via attrition takes him down. i'd go as far as to say thor could kill any 2 of them aside from hulk or juggs at the same time. attuma had a decent showing but that had the air of defender jobbing.... thanos would kill a couple at LEAST as quick as thor could. each time one fell, the odds of them winning would drop. kurrth would be last, nul would prolong things, but i don't see either one being able to put him down. i know you'll disagree, but as i said, looking at his history, i just think it's clear he's well above this tier. you don't have to be a skyfather to beat a group of heralds.
Originally posted by leonidasnul ripped through adamantium like paper and crushed his hammer. How is Thanos going to stand up to that level of power? Thor nor Thanos can't come close to doing shit like that.
3 screams is still 3 screams. maybe the last 2 were somewhat lessened, still impressive as all hell. what attack, individual or collectively, compares with even one of bb's screams?you're right about the builder. forgot it was an aleph he one-shotted. 👆 in any event, hulk was treated like a child imo, disdainfully. he got back up but it was clear he was considered little more than a pest imo. smiling? yeah, we'll disagree there. proxima ended him very quickly. if she could, pretty sure thanos could have done the same.
not sure where in the scan i showed that you can possibly say thor was resisting.....anything. he was even without his hammer.... he was literally cast aside like a leaf.
nor am i sure what needs to be acknowledged honestly. thanos utterly tanked 2 full on lightning blasts (who else has EVER done that?), took a charged smash to the head, then proceeded to palm thor's hammer and was about to kill him and the rest of the avengers. long battles? meh, that can be said too often to really matter. thanos himself had just taken bb's screams so....yeah. imo it was clear that thanos was intended to be WELL beyond all of the avengers, tired or not. i asked this before, but for people who think the worthy win (some who think the worthy can SOLO, or that it might only take 2 or 3) where has a herald or group of heralds been shown to be even remotely threatening to thanos? that doesn't mean he can take 1000 heralds. but 7-8? i think it is certainly a debatable point at the least.
tbh, i'd say thor himself was more powerful than ANY of the worthy, aside from juggs and MAYBE nul. if thanos can treat thor like that, i've little doubt he could kill most of the worthy before the accumulation of damage via attrition takes him down. i'd go as far as to say thor could kill any 2 of them aside from hulk or juggs at the same time. attuma had a decent showing but that had the air of defender jobbing.... thanos would kill a couple at LEAST as quick as thor could. each time one fell, the odds of them winning would drop. kurrth would be last, nul would prolong things, but i don't see either one being able to put him down. i know you'll disagree, but as i said, looking at his history, i just think it's clear he's well above this tier. you don't have to be a skyfather to beat a group of heralds.
What the hell is Thanos going to do to Kuurth? Kuurth can one shot him with that unstoppable hammer. Thanos fighting multiple beings guarantee he is going to get hit fast by someone. After that it is over for him.
Thanos can't beat Kuurth or nul. A better fight would be Worthy minus those two vs. Thanos.
Leo...
The Black Bolt scene was nice but lets not pretend like Thanos is the only one that withstood the scream. This same Bolt was a direct replica of the real deal, even have fts of ripping through space/time with his scream and he hit Hulk with enough force to knock a chunk out of the moon the size of Rhode Island (which is greater than the Thanos showing going off destructive power).
Lol...Hulk is clearly smiling during this scene and I honestly don't know why you are impressed with it. No one is arguing that Thanos is unable to budge Hulk or any of the Avengers.
http://imageshack.us/a/img24/8800/f6hd.jpg
Also, Hulk being taken out by a plot doesn't have a thing to do with Thanos unless you have proof that Thanos can dish out the weight of a star.
Thanos didn't ko Thor though and just like I said, that was a great durability showing for Thanos, but that's about it. Him punching Hulk and withstanding attacks from Thor doesn't mean he is beating this team...not even close.
