Thanos VS THE WORTHY

Started by ODG11 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Hulk is clearly smiling during this scene and I honestly don't know why you are impressed with it. No one is arguing that Thanos is unable to budge Hulk or any of the Avengers.

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/8800/f6hd.jpg

Hulk wore a sh1t-eating grin. It's really clear.
Originally posted by leonidas
nor am i sure what needs to be acknowledged honestly. thanos utterly tanked 2 full on lightning blasts (who else has EVER done that?)
Was it the number of lightning strikes that impressed you or the no-selling of the lighting that impressed you? Because foes like Radioactive Man, Iron Man, Juggernaut have tanked Thor's full-on lightning blasts before.

^ Maybe he was impressed with Thanos tanking 2 blasts with the intensity upped in the second one but still to no avail.

Originally posted by carver9
So you call that being stomped? Surprise attacks? Who is your favorite character Bently? Is it Kang.?

So your point is that Angrir was surprised by Thor? That's a weak cop out if I've ever heard one, if Thor used a move and Angrir couldn't properly defend even if Thor was standing right in front of him, then it just goes to prove how inferior and much less durable Angrir was to begin with.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sin is below Thor level for my money. Angrir, Nerkkod and so on are on the same level. Kuurth and Nul are above it.
greetings, brother rage

Originally posted by ODG
You could do that. I'd also direct you to Nerkkod, who gave Namor, Surfer and others a fight they remembered.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Doesn't mean they aren't Thor level.

The energies Angrir channeled were described as on par with Thor:

Strange pointed out that Nerkkod was channeling power unlike any they had ever faced:

Each of the individual hammers were incredibly powerful:

Sin is below Thor level for my money. Angrir, Nerkkod and so on are on the same level. Kuurth and Nul are above it.

Anyways, I have no idea how Thanos having the clear advantage over Thor in Infinity changes his odds in this thread whatsoever. He still gets completely wrecked.


Yeah so looked over Fear Itself.

Sin - did nothing worth notable
Skirn- look above
Greithoth - could be dangerous with absorbing powers, but Absorbing Man's dunce level intellect will be his downfall.
Nerkkod - seemed powerful at first, but he got his hand chopped off by a meta(granted he did regenerate it when he retrieved his hammer, but it lowers his stock).
Mokk - got his head sliced open by Tony (lowers his stock)
Angrir - showed well against Rulk (Rulk at the time was everyone's punching bag) and we all know what Thor did to him

Only two that would make this a close match is Nul and Kuurth. More so with Kuurth. Even then they haven't shown anything that can put Thanos away given what his shields are capable of and his historically retarded capacity to take punishment.

Don't get me wrong, the Worthy are legit heralds, but what have they really shown that can effectively take out Thanos?

Thanos on the other hand has feats of utterly embarrassing heralds through sheer muscle or outright power. It doesn't help that a few of the Worthy has had some less than impressive durability showings.

Didnt Kuurth without Cyttorak got his ass kicked by an enhanced Wolverine?

Originally posted by ODG
Hulk wore a sh1t-eating grin. It's really clear. Was it the number of lightning strikes that impressed you or the no-selling of the lighting that impressed you? Because foes like Radioactive Man, Iron Man, Juggernaut have tanked Thor's full-on lightning blasts before.

IM absorbed it so that is different (or he did once, always funny his old armor does things his new one can't....) juggs is juggs. didn't know about RM though. but yeah, it was that there were 2, and that he asked for more. never saw that happen before. the power of the lightning does fluctuate from time to time, but in general it is usually pretty dern uber.

Originally posted by Estacado
Didnt Kuurth without Cyttorak got his ass kicked by an enhanced Wolverine?

Without Cytorrak Kuurth would be below Angrir level awesr

Greithoth doesn't suffer from Creel's idiocy.

Originally posted by KingD19
Greithoth doesn't suffer from Creel's idiocy.

Well during Avengers Academy, Creel's personality did start superceding the Greithoth personality.

Skirn even had to play shrink to make him refocus at one point.

We don't know what the enhancment did to Wolvy or what levels it put him at. Bad examples. Even while deoowered, he was still above Colossonaut, an elite. He was cracking his bones with 'get off me' punches.

Originally posted by Bentley
Without Cytorrak Kuurth would be below Angrir level awesr

So you have proof that Angrir can break someone like Colossonaut bones with punches?

Originally posted by Bentley
So your point is that Angrir was surprised by Thor? That's a weak cop out if I've ever heard one, if Thor used a move and Angrir couldn't properly defend even if Thor was standing right in front of him, then it just goes to prove how inferior and much less durable Angrir was to begin with.

Not saying that wasn't a beastly showing for Thor bc he performed something I can't see any Herald doing but, are you really going to tell me Angrir seen this coming? If yes, let me know what brought you to this conclusion. If no, what would you call that attack?

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4580/thorvshulkandthing3.jpg
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I could see Thanos beating any two, but all of them is just too much at this moment.
That might change if Thanos unamped kicks the shit out of the Annihilators, but right now it's just a numbers game.

Thanos is more of a one on one, two on one guy.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I could see Thanos beating any two, but all of them is just too much at this moment.
That might change if Thanos unamped kicks the shit out of the Annihilators, but right now it's just a numbers game.

Thanos is more of a one on one, two on one guy.


Aww come one. He deserves a little more credit than that.
I don't mind if anyone thinks he'd lose to this group, but I think he can take down much more than one or two at time.

Like I said, Nul and especially Kuurth make it close, but I'd bet on purple.

Originally posted by carver9
So you have proof that Angrir can break someone like Colossonaut bones with punches?

Regular Ben Grimm can beat Colossus conclusively, so I don't see why Angrir would be inferior to Kuurth without Cytorrak backing. Angrir certainly has much Superior feats.

Originally posted by carver9
Not saying that wasn't a beastly showing for Thor bc he performed something I can't see any Herald doing but, are you really going to tell me Angrir seen this coming? If yes, let me know what brought you to this conclusion. If no, what would you call that attack?

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4580/thorvshulkandthing3.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2695/thorvshulkandthing4.jpg

I can see several Heralds destroying Angrir easily, heck, I see Terrax humilliating the guy. Why? Because the only thing Angrir achieved is dropping Rulk, which is something that a "lesser" herald (Wonderman) has done without any trouble.

Originally posted by Bentley
Regular Ben Grimm can beat Colossus conclusively, so I don't see why Angrir would be inferior to Kuurth without Cytorrak backing. Angrir certainly has much Superior feats.

I can see several Heralds destroying Angrir easily, heck, I see Terrax humilliating the guy. Why? Because the only thing Angrir achieved is dropping Rulk, which is something that a "lesser" herald (Wonderman) has done without any trouble.

Angrir and Nul was stated as being the most powerful of the group and the others were team busters, easily. With that said, I don't agree with you.

Originally posted by Bentley
Regular Ben Grimm can beat Colossus conclusively, so I don't see why Angrir would be inferior to Kuurth without Cytorrak backing. Angrir certainly has much Superior feats.

While I think Ben should win, it would not by any means be conclusive and there physical stats are more or less equal.

Why would Kuurth be inferior to Angrir? He was noticeably more powerful then Colossus Juggernaut and was doing the kind of damage to a high end strongman that Thanos would envy.

Originally posted by Bentley
I can see several Heralds destroying Angrir easily, heck, I see Terrax humilliating the guy. Why? Because the only thing Angrir achieved is dropping Rulk, which is something that a "lesser" herald (Wonderman) has done without any trouble.

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Angrir absolutely decimated Rulk in close combat. During the same storyline that Bendis made it clear he was easily an elite strong man on the same level as Hulk and Thor. Fyi, at the end of the story arc where Wonder Man takes him out and proves to be stronger, we see Rulk and Thor arm wrestling equally. Not that this is worth anything on it's own, but with the other evidence such as during the Infinity Gems scene, it makes things evident.

Now, I'm sure certain people would love to spin it in a way that better represents their favorite but the truth is, Wonder Man was being portrayed as someone straight up above Herald level in that scene and would have probably overpowered either Thor or Hulk just as badly in that same situation. It is what it is.

Wonderman was doing some crazy crap during that scene. I think he showed teleportation as well.

Originally posted by leonidas
3 screams is still 3 screams. maybe the last 2 were somewhat lessened, still impressive as all hell. what attack, individual or collectively, compares with even one of bb's screams?

There's no maybe. It was flat out said that activating the Bomb reduced Black Bolt's power levels to less then half of what they were. That is why the later screams were so pathetic in comparison to the first and were actively getting weaker. And the bomb was activated by the first scream and it actively converted sound into light power so even the power of the first one is questionable.

Originally posted by leonidas
you're right about the builder. forgot it was an aleph he one-shotted. 👆 in any event, hulk was treated like a child imo, disdainfully. he got back up but it was clear he was considered little more than a pest imo. smiling? yeah, we'll disagree there. proxima ended him very quickly. if she could, pretty sure thanos could have done the same.

Iyo maybe, but this is completely subjective and the bottom line is, that Thanos punch did nothing but knock Hulk off of his feet. As a matter of fact, he smiled. There's better evidence suggesting Groot is above Thanos physically

What's there to disagree? Do you not know what a smile is?

Proxima trapped him under the weight of a Star and reverted him to Banner. If Thanos can do that, sure he could defeat him similarly, but I don't think he can.

Originally posted by leonidas
ot sure where in the scan i showed that you can possibly say thor was resisting.....anything. he was even without his hammer.... he was literally cast aside like a leaf.

It looked like Thor was trying to hold his ground but this is subjective so agree to disagree.

Originally posted by leonidas
nor am i sure what needs to be acknowledged honestly. thanos utterly tanked 2 full on lightning blasts (who else has EVER done that?), took a charged smash to the head, then proceeded to palm thor's hammer and was about to kill him and the rest of the avengers. long battles? meh, that can be said too often to really matter. thanos himself had just taken bb's screams so....yeah. imo it was clear that thanos was intended to be WELL beyond all of the avengers, tired or not. i asked this before, but for people who think the worthy win (some who think the worthy can SOLO, or that it might only take 2 or 3) where has a herald or group of heralds been shown to be even remotely threatening to thanos? that doesn't mean he can take 1000 heralds. but 7-8? i think it is certainly a debatable point at the least.

I can think of some characters who have tanked lightning blasts from Thor. They like all things fluctuate.

It is worth noting however as one point was the Avengers being pushed to the brink and just not being able to cope with everything happening all at once. I'm not saying one particular battle weakened them or something (At least I don't think so). I'm saying that the culmination of their activities should be noted.

You really can't think of any instance when a Herald or a group of Heralds was problematic for Thanos?

Originally posted by leonidas
tbh, i'd say thor himself was more powerful than ANY of the worthy, aside from juggs and MAYBE nul. if thanos can treat thor like that, i've little doubt he could kill most of the worthy before the accumulation of damage via attrition takes him down. i'd go as far as to say thor could kill any 2 of them aside from hulk or juggs at the same time. attuma had a decent showing but that had the air of defender jobbing.... thanos would kill a couple at LEAST as quick as thor could. each time one fell, the odds of them winning would drop. kurrth would be last, nul would prolong things, but i don't see either one being able to put him down. i know you'll disagree, but as i said, looking at his history, i just think it's clear he's well above this tier. you don't have to be a skyfather to beat a group of heralds.

He had a nice durability showing with the lightning but even that isn't anything above his older showings. I have no idea what about his strength or his output in that comic makes you think he could easily kill the Worthy or something when Hulk and Thor were unhurt by his punches more or less.

How is Thanos going to go about easily killing the Worthy? What about Infinity in anyway suggests that he can go about easily killing Heralds when that's exactly what he DIDN'T do? I don't even understand how this reasoning makes sense. Not to mention the Worthy have ridiculous healing factors.

And how the hell is Thor going to kill a couple of the Worthy members either? He'd get instantly wrecked by this team. You seem to be taking an extreme outlier (vs. Angrir/Nul) and applying it at as the norm or something and then taking it to a whole new degree with him facing this team. Worse, you seem to be applying Thor's high end showing retroactively to Thanos as a norm which doesn't make sense because Thor, specifically Mjolnir, can accomplish things in a certain way that Thanos cannot.