Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There's no maybe. It was flat out said that activating the Bomb reduced Black Bolt's power levels to less then half of what they were. That is why the later screams were so pathetic in comparison to the first and were actively getting weaker. And the bomb was activated by the first scream and it actively converted sound into light power so even the power of the first one is questionable.
the later ones were weakened. speculation that the first was. imo it wasn't at all. and it really didn't do anything to thanos anyway except drop the city on him. that single attack far and away was more damage than any of the worthy threw out--individually or collectively.
Iyo maybe, but this is completely subjective and the bottom line is, that Thanos punch did nothing but knock Hulk off of his feet. As a matter of fact, he smiled. There's better evidence suggesting Groot is above Thanos physicallyWhat's there to disagree? Do you not know what a smile is?
looking at the scan again, i guess he could be smiling. not exactly clear imo, but whatever. groot got one-shot ko'd by thanos in gotg....so.....
Proxima trapped him under the weight of a Star and reverted him to Banner. If Thanos can do that, sure he could defeat him similarly, but I don't think he can.
thanos>>>>proxima is what i'm saying. i've absolutlely no doubt thanos would kill hulk. but you're right, it's opinion. just not sure how anyone could question that at all.
It looked like Thor was trying to hold his ground but this is subjective so agree to disagree.
holding his ground? we'll def disagree. it is at least equally plausible that the shot from thanos ko'd him. it def made him drop the hammer. caught up as he was in that growing blast it certainly looked like he was about to be as dead as the rest of them to me. that was after ONE shot. he took thor's lightning, charged strike, palmed the hammer and ko'd or nearly ko'd him to the point of defenseless. that is pure domination, and showed he was WELL beyond thor. the durability of the other worthy were questionable aside from juggs and nul. attuma had a hand chopped off. IM sliced up gargoyle. thing was killed without effort by thor. none of them have even CLOSE to the durability feats thor has. thanos could def take those guys out early.
I can think of some characters who have tanked lightning blasts from Thor. They like all things fluctuate.
odg brought up IM who absorbed it, and juggs who is....juggs. radioactive man did, but i've not seen the scan and i doubt he laughed it off and called for another....
It is worth noting however as one point was the Avengers being pushed to the brink and just not being able to cope with everything happening all at once. I'm not saying one particular battle weakened them or something (At least I don't think so). I'm saying that the culmination of their activities should be noted.
and i don't think it matters at all. thor's been in FAR greater and longer battles. hype is hype. hulk never tires. and cap? meaningless.....
You really can't think of any instance when a Herald or a group of Heralds was problematic for Thanos?
recently? nope. aside from the avengers arc where he was hurt/injured from the cube. you have one?
He had a nice durability showing with the lightning but even that isn't anything above his older showings. I have no idea what about his strength or his output in that comic makes you think he could easily kill the Worthy or something when Hulk and Thor were unhurt by his punches more or less.
the way he dealt with thor for starters. the way he one shot black dwarf for another. i have no clue how you can look at the ONE time he punched thor in that fight and say thor was "unhurt". seriously? as i said, it could easily be argued he was ko'd depending on how you want to view the art.
How is Thanos going to go about easily killing the Worthy? What about Infinity in anyway suggests that he can go about easily killing Heralds when that's exactly what he DIDN'T do? I don't even understand how this reasoning makes sense. Not to mention the Worthy have ridiculous healing factors.
you seem to believe they were invincible or something, or that they were equals of thor. they weren't. not imo. most certainly by feats they weren't. what attacks did you see that would take out thanos?
And how the hell is Thor going to kill a couple of the Worthy members either? He'd get instantly wrecked by this team.
by the whole team? of course he couldn't beat them all. who said that? lightning strikes would def kill a couple if he really wanted to though. omniblasts could buy him time. bfr could buy time for him to do more, maybe kill another with more lightning or a return hammer attack. and NONE of that would be outlier material for thor. i'd say he could kill any 2 at a time so long as they weren't hulk or juggs. and i'd love to see what the lightning would do to hulk since we saw what it did to him easily in the past.
You seem to be taking an extreme outlier (vs. Angrir/Nul) and applying it at as the norm or something and then taking it to a whole new degree with him facing this team. Worse, you seem to be applying Thor's high end showing retroactively to Thanos as a norm which doesn't make sense because Thor, specifically Mjolnir, can accomplish things in a certain way that Thanos cannot. [/B]
and you seem to be equating the worthy with thor when in reality they were not. and thor has repeatedly been shown to be far below thanos. none of the worthy have close to the feats of power with the hammer or the durability feats he has. thanos durability to just too great. i mean seriously--i know i don't have to go through and list his durability feats. he utterly tanks high herald attacks unnoticed. i'm not even calling on his tp (no reason he couldn't try and tp control one to help him attack the others) or his force fields. bfr would be an option as well to buy time. that's all of he doesn't just want to brawl it out. they would need to collectively pound him for a LONG time but if he is capable of taking thor out of the fight with one punch, stopping thrown hammers with a gesture, handling lightning and energy blasts on the level of odin and omega, he could def take out the worthy. hulk and juggs would be the issues here, but i have little doubt thanos could and would kill the rest.
i cannot believe i'm defending thanos of all characters here, but people seem to think of thanos as just a durable high herald type or something. he is far stronger than high herald, has far greater energy output and of course his durability is off the charts. when he first resurrected he wiped out an entire WORLD, primed with faith energies of the uct. if you know about the cardinals, you know that faith energy was pretty uber. he wiped out the whole planet effortlessly. he's matched power with the inbetweener and he seems to be more powerful now. i am likewise amazed that someone could think he could NOT make this a fight. going by just worthy feats, leaving all things thor aside, THAT stance seems to be the one that doesn't make sense imo.
pretty sure this will just degenerate into a thanos/thor discussion, or an imo/iyo circle, so i leave the last word to you knowing that it's not all that likely either of us will be changing our stance.