Can the Basilisk fang destroy the Ring ?

Started by siriuswriter16 pages

"Avada Kedavra" never actually destroyed a Horcrux. There was Basilisk venom, Fiendfyre, Gryffindor's Sword... and the twin cores of Voldemort's and Harry's wands fighting each other.

The ring was made with the lava in Mount Doom. Therefore it would make sense that only the lava in Mount Doom could unmake it. Also, the scene where Gollum dives in after the ring is in slow motion, it doesn't really take THAT LONG for Gollum to sink. Neither did it take long for the Ring - it goes in, tries to fight the lava [the lava starts to harden around the Ring, getting darker] and then the Ring sinks.

Are there basilisks in LotR? Not in the movies.
Basilisk fang does not equal doom for the Ring.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What other lava pits are in Middle Earth ? Same thing. Magical lava which can't kill Gollum immediately aka weak ass lava.

Yes, I have.

You concede when you walk away. Resisting a dwarf axe isn't impressive.

Are you saying there are no sources of extreme heat as hot as Mt. Doom's lava on middle earth? If you are saying that, you're wrong. If the ring could be destroyed using heat, there would be no need to journey to Mt. Doom. And why the hell would Sauron entrust such vast power in a ring if it could be destroyed that easily?

Once again, the heat of the lava in Mt. Doom is irrelevant. As aforementioned, the ring was destroyed in Mt. Doom because of its magic, NOT heat.

And no, you have completely ignored my previous argument. Probably because you can't think of a response?

Originally posted by siriuswriter
"Avada Kedavra" never actually destroyed a Horcrux. There was Basilisk venom, Fiendfyre, Gryffindor's Sword... and the twin cores of Voldemort's and Harry's wands fighting each other.

The ring was made with the lava in Mount Doom. Therefore it would make sense that only the lava in Mount Doom could unmake it. Also, the scene where Gollum dives in after the ring is in slow motion, it doesn't really take THAT LONG for Gollum to sink. Neither did it take long for the Ring - it goes in, tries to fight the lava [the lava starts to harden around the Ring, getting darker] and then the Ring sinks.

Are there basilisks in LotR? Not in the movies.
Basilisk fang does not equal doom for the Ring.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
When did Fiendfyre destroy one ?

Avada Kedavra is an exception due to the circumstances.

When Crabbe killed himself with it, IIRC. The Ravenclaw artifact that was turned into a Horcrux, I think. Did that happen in the movies?

I know it did in the books, at least.

Yup. When they went into the Room of Requirement, and saw Draco hanging out there with his minions. Crabbe cast it to be a big, bad Death Eater but was unfortunately too stupid to realize that Fiendfyre kills.

1) " The POINT of the LotR trilogy is that it is NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to destroy the One Ring. Please, don't think that just because it took up "only" three movies that destroying the ring was easy. It took a combination of all the right people [and some wrong ones] to make sure that not only would the ring be destroyed, but that the world would be ready to pick itself back up again AFTER the ring was destroyed.

Sauron also made sure that all the OTHER rings he made would fall to him by a) making sure that the groups he would give it to had flaws and b) NOT making them in Mount Doom, which means that all the other rings were LESSER. All of them falling just gave him more power.
And because Mordor was SO easy to get to, fighting all the evil not just physically but fighting the very way the ring made you feel. Had it not been for Sam and, in the end, Gollum, the ring wouldn't even have been destroyed.

2) It doesn't matter about "other lava." Where something is made, it must be unmade. That happens to be a rule in Harry Potter too, when Voldy cursed Harry, it backfired, and so Voldy wants to kill Harry so it will UN-backfire.

Mount Doom is the ONLY PLACE that the Ring can be destroyed

The fang wasn't even sharp enough to pierce all the way through a ****ing book, how is it going to get through a Ring that shattered an axehead?

Originally posted by Firefly218
Are you saying there are no sources of extreme heat as hot as Mt. Doom's lava on middle earth? If you are saying that, you're wrong. If the ring could be destroyed using heat, there would be no need to journey to Mt. Doom. And why the hell would Sauron entrust such vast power in a ring if it could be destroyed that easily?

Once again, the heat of the lava in Mt. Doom is irrelevant. As aforementioned, the ring was destroyed in Mt. Doom because of its magic, NOT heat.

And no, you have completely ignored my previous argument. Probably because you can't think of a response?

Heat plus magic which considering the length of time it took to kill Gollum isn't that impressive.

I didn't say it could be destroyed easily in the Lotr universe but comparing it to the potter universe it just doesn't stack up.

What have I ignored ?

Originally posted by The Scenario
When Crabbe killed himself with it, IIRC. The Ravenclaw artifact that was turned into a Horcrux, I think. Did that happen in the movies?

I know it did in the books, at least.

It was destroyed prior to the Fiendfyre touching it. The Fiendfyre comes in contact with the soul escaping the. Horcrux.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was destroyed prior to the Fiendfyre touching it. The Fiendfyre comes in contact with the soul escaping the. Horcrux.

What destroyed the Horcrux in the movie?

Originally posted by The Scenario
What destroyed the Horcrux in the movie?
Basilisk fang.

Alrighty, I'll try this your way. Just for fun.

So here's what I've gathered from this thread: Horcruxes have been destroyed by fangs, swords, and fire.

The One Ring has resisted axes and fire, and was destroyed by lava.

Swords roughly = axes and lava > fire. So it seems the One Ring is the superior artifact since it has resisted things that destroy Horcruxes.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Alrighty, I'll try this your way. Just for fun.

So here's what I've gathered from this thread: Horcruxes have been destroyed by fangs, swords, and fire.

The One Ring has resisted axes and fire, and was destroyed by lava.

Swords roughly = axes and lava > fire. So it seems the One Ring is the superior artifact since it has resisted things that destroy Horcruxes.

Horcruxes were never destroyed by fire.

Ring resisted axe and fire.

Fire never destroyed the Horcrux. I just corrected your ignorance.

The same magical lava which destroyed the ring couldn't even instantly kill an anorexic hobbit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Horcruxes were never destroyed by fire.

Ring resisted axe and fire.

Fire never destroyed the Horcrux. I just corrected your ignorance.

The same magical lava which destroyed the ring couldn't even instantly kill an anorexic hobbit. [/B]

The soul is part of the Horcrux, and the books make it clear that Fiendfyre destroys them perfectly well.

So we're left with Horcruxes being destroyed by swords, while the One Ring resists axes. That's the better feat, so I'll say the Ring can take the fangg much better than a Horcrux could.

Originally posted by The Scenario
The soul is part of the Horcrux, and the books make it clear that Fiendfyre destroys them perfectly well.

So we're left with Horcruxes being destroyed by swords, while the One Ring resists axes. That's the better feat, so I'll say the Ring can take the fangg much better than a Horcrux could.

The movie is entirely different and the fire didn't destroy it. The fang did. This is the movie forum not the book forum.

The magical sword destroyed it whereas the regular axe resisted.

Magic matters, sport.

Funny how it doesn't matter when Dorf isn't in the thread.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Magic matters, sport.

Funny how it doesn't matter when Dorf isn't in the thread.

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I did say I was doing this your way.

How strong is the sword of Gryffindor, then?

Originally posted by The Scenario
I did say I was doing this your way.

How strong is the sword of Gryffindor, then?

Very powerful indeed.

This isn't my way. I ignore no context.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Very powerful indeed.

This isn't my way. I ignore no context.

I dunno, you didn't seem to think magic mattered when it came to Ganondorf, so...

So what has it destroyed besides a few snakes?

Originally posted by The Scenario
I dunno, you didn't seem to think magic mattered when it came to Ganondorf, so...

So what has it destroyed besides a few snakes?

When did I say magic didn't matter there.

It destroyed Horcruxes. The same Horcrux known as Nagini resisted fire as well.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
The Horcruxes have power as well. The ring has the last portion of life in Sauron as well. With both destroyed neither can return to the physical world.

I already discussed the similarities in the previous post. Just because the name is different the application is generally the same, sport.

We see it take a portion of time to kill him just like it took time to destroy the ring. If it can't kill Gollum immediately it is pathetic.

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What power? Harry resisted the diary's influence. Ginny resisted it as well. Ron overcame the slytherin heirloom's effects.

No, you didn't. These objects have separate functions. The Horcruxes are meant to act as Voldemort's conduits to immortality, while the Ring is supposed to help Sauron in his domination of Middle Earth.

No, we don't. The gollum drowned and got killed. On-screen:
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