Can the Basilisk fang destroy the Ring ?

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
One scene with the axe is your proof? Elrond and Gandalf didn't even try and they are way stronger then a Basilisk ("waiting for no there not" comeback). HArry stabbed the stupid snake in the face with a sword and it died. Talk about durability feats. Ring can tank weapons, Basilisk can't. It is also said by Elrond: The ring cannot be destroyed, Gimli, son of Gloin, by any craft that we here possess. The ring was made in the fires of Mount Doom. Only there can it be unmade. As Gandalf was among them, there is nothing in the whole Potterverse (except maybe Death) that can harm the ring.

You basically have no idea about what you're talking about. Again.

I said it can't be destroyed by any other means in the Lotr universe which has no bearing here in another fictional universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they are not. Elrond has no feats so again your ignorance is just showing. Gandalf isn't that powerful. We don't see him use really anything that powerful so to suggest he is just foolish.

You basically have no idea about what you're talking about. Again.

I said it can't be destroyed by any other means in the Lotr universe which has no bearing here in another fictional universe.

So you have no proof and only highly biased speculation. And I have credited proof, and the only arguable matches for Gandalf are Dumbledore and maybe Voldermort, who can't destroy Horcruxes or the ring.

I think that's a win. I'm leaving this thread, and those who read it will know I'm right. SO rant on.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
So you have no proof and only highly biased speculation. And I have credited proof, and the only arguable matches for Gandalf are Dumbledore and maybe Voldermort, who can't destroy Horcruxes or the ring.

I think that's a win. I'm leaving this thread, and those who read it will know I'm right. SO rant on.

Snape, McGonagall, Mad Eye, Dobby, etc. Would hand them their asses but this isn't about formidability this is about power.

You claimed Elrond without a feat to his credit. You are leaving out of cowardice.

Basilisk fang wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To try to belittle their rivalry or diminish it to a 2-1 win loss record is beyond ignorance. We don't forget the context of the matchups just to sell your trashy little points, Abhilegend.

No. If if she was overtaken she would have accepted the ring. She didn't. She passed the test. 😂

She resisted its allure. The ring failed. We see the ring on someone and he tried to give it away. 😂 we already have evidence of someone putting it on and trying to give it away. You made the claim so back your claim. I don't have to disprove your assertion. You first have to prove it. 😂

No, it proved people give it away freely or resist it altogether. Pathetic. I have other examples of people resisting it. Its fun destroying this myth of yours.

He failed only due to the fact the ring was resisted. The mere fact he tried to give it away destroys your own case. He was not threatened he tried to give it away.

No, it doesn't. That is fine for her but it doesn't override movie evidence. We go by movie feats only not the writers opinions on characters.

Movie feats only. Her opinion was in reference to the books.

No, he fled from him. He hid behind someone else as well. That is bravery according to you. Voldemort wanted a one on one fight unlike Harry. Repeating the lies or ignoring the evidence is very Abhilegend like. Harry overcame his fear of them while easily beating them. He overcame his fear throughout the progression of the movie.

In the midst of a fight Voldemort called his troops off. He literally showed him and wouldn't let anyone else interfere. Bellatrix asks permission to kill him but he denies her. That is a fact. Context, Abhilegend.

No, I do not since we see other wizards do right in front of them. The point is it is easy to do so before they get close.

I cite evidence whereas you state lies. 😂 Keep being delusional.

Gandalf used light to run from the Orc army. He tried escaping.

Sauron won't let him escape and crushes him. You ignore context and flat out lie. You are just like Abhilegend avoiding context and lashing out with misrepresentation after misrepresentation.

No,they do not. Not at all. The average mages crush the muggles. To suggest otherwise is just silly. Magic>>>normal human beings.

No, I didn't.

It takes in that which makes it stronger. It is a property of the sword. 😂

Ignorance thy name is epidural.

Being goblin made is a feat in itself. They craft greatness it's like ignoring that and the properties in an attempt to down play it, Abhilegend.

The Sog isn't the tiara. The specific trait was explained for the Sog.

Yes. The point is that she nearly fell into its influence, which thankfully didn't happen because hers was a pure soul, she didn't wield it, and she was also the possessor of Nenya at that time.

She almost fell to it, despite the ring not even being in her hands. Frodo ultimately failed to get rid of it. Point proven.

Incorrect, it showed us that destiny and fate themselves intervened to prevent Frodo from giving it up. It also shows us that the greatest of the Elves of LoTRdom can also nearly fall to the Ring's shadow under the right circumstances.

He failed because the Ring was destined to be in his possession. He was cursed with it, in a metaphorical manner of speaking.

Yes it does. She had a say in how the movies were written. She is the creator of the franchise. Her word is equitible to Word of God for the Potterverse.

Movies didn't address the point of DEs being able to cast patronuses either. Her opinion on this matter is the only piece of evidence for use to look at with full scrutiny.

Incorrect. An injured Harry, despite having all the odds against him, escaped from Voldemort. Voldemort, the cowardly baby-killer, failed to kill him even when he voluntarily surrendered in the final movie. That alone disproves your silly assertion, Wormtail. The fact that he was willing to give up his life for the sake of his friends. That's bravery right there, a concept alien to you and your similarly coward "faves". 😂

Bellatrix was at his mercy when Voldy came into finish him of in OOP. Voldy is also an insecure tyrant who kills those who oppose him. He's not this honorable sorcerer that you pretend he is. Nobody in their mind would ever take his word at face value, Wormtail.

Incorrect. Aberforth did it from a distance. Harry did it from a distance. Point proven.

Wrong. You cite your fanboy-clogged opinion as if it is evidence. 👆

Gandalf was fighting off the huge Orc army, until Sauron managed to trap him.

You claim that he ran from Orcs, Voldemort ran from a bunch of aurors. Awful.👇 Voldy also never took on entire armies by his lonesome, unlike Gandalf who did so with the Orc army in the second Hobbit film.

That's because Sauron is Sauron. You pretending as if losing to Sauron is some low showing speaks awfully about your state of mind, Wormtail.

Arianna and Potter disagree with you. Ron/Fred/George also ran away from the Durseleys like a bunch of cowards in Chamber of Secrets. Awful.

Yes you did.

Prove that it makes it immune to the venom.

Irony, trollery, stupidity are many of thine names, Wormtail.

You do realize that the property to "take in that which makes it stronger"(something which you cited multiple times in your post) is an intrinsic trait of goblin metal in general?

Going by your logic, tiarra tanks the venom as well as the sword did.😆

It is goblin-made which is what gives it the absorption ability. Tiarra is also goblin-made. Can the tiarra tank the venom as well then iyo?

Originally posted by Epicurus
No it isn't. Frazier got beaten in 2 other rematches. Point made, Wormtail.

Yes. The point is that she nearly fell into its influence, which thankfully didn't happen because hers was a pure soul, she didn't wield it, and she was also the possessor of Nenya at that time.

She almost fell to it, despite the ring not even being in her hands. Frodo ultimately failed to get rid of it. Point proven.

Incorrect, it showed us that destiny and fate themselves intervened to prevent Frodo from giving it up. It also shows us that the greatest of the Elves of LoTRdom can also nearly fall to the Ring's shadow under the right circumstances.

He failed because the Ring was destined to be in his possession. He was cursed with it, in a metaphorical manner of speaking.

Yes it does. She had a say in how the movies were written. She is the creator of the franchise. Her word is equitible to Word of God for the Potterverse.

Movies didn't address the point of DEs being able to cast patronuses either. Her opinion on this matter is the only piece of evidence for use to look at with full scrutiny.

Incorrect. An injured Harry, despite having all the odds against him, escaped from Voldemort. Voldemort, the cowardly baby-killer, failed to kill him even when he voluntarily surrendered in the final movie. That alone disproves your silly assertion, Wormtail. The fact that he was willing to give up his life for the sake of his friends. That's bravery right there, a concept alien to you and your similarly coward "faves". 😂

Bellatrix was at his mercy when Voldy came into finish him of in OOP. Voldy is also an insecure tyrant who kills those who oppose him. He's not this honorable sorcerer that you pretend he is. Nobody in their mind would ever take his word at face value, Wormtail.

Incorrect. Aberforth did it from a distance. Harry did it from a distance. Point proven.

Wrong. You cite your fanboy-clogged opinion as if it is evidence. 👆

Gandalf was fighting off the huge Orc army, until Sauron managed to trap him.

You claim that he ran from Orcs, Voldemort ran from a bunch of aurors. Awful.👇 Voldy also never took on entire armies by his lonesome, unlike Gandalf who did so with the Orc army in the second Hobbit film.

That's because Sauron is Sauron. You pretending as if losing to Sauron is some low showing speaks awfully about your state of mind, Wormtail.

Arianna and Potter disagree with you. Ron/Fred/George also ran away from the Durseleys like a bunch of cowards in Chamber of Secrets. Awful.

Yes you did.

Prove that it makes it immune to the venom.

Irony, trollery, stupidity are many of thine names, Wormtail.

You do realize that the property to "take in that which makes it stronger"(something which you cited multiple times in your post) is an intrinsic trait of goblin metal in general?

Going by your logic, tiarra tanks the venom as well as the sword did.😆

It is goblin-made which is what gives it the absorption ability. Tiarra is also goblin-made. Can the tiarra tank the venom as well then iyo?

You are ignoring their rivalry and just focusing on the outcomes. That is ignoring context, Abhilegend.

Nearly fell isn't a point. She didn't give into temptation. If you don't give it then the temptation can and has been resisted. Point me. Their was no allusion to nenya being a factor in any way so why continue to say so without proof. Oh right, your thing.

Frodo was under its influence and still tried to give it away. That destroys your earlier point. Funniest part is he didn't want it nor did she. 😂

No, it showed her resisting. Saying fate itself intervened without any proof of this being the case is stupidity. She didn't fall for it. Ring was resisted by two in one scene. Utterly trashes your ring worship.

Prove that it was his destiny to be in his possession. Sam took it off of him as did Gollum. You just make shit up and try to act like you have a point. You're getting more desperate by the post. You're a horrible debater.

Again, we don't cite comic book writers opinions if not on the page. Sure we can look at it but it isn't the ultimate say. The movies also differed so she wasn't the ultimate say so by any means of what she decides. 😂

According to the books but since she isn't the only person who decides what hits the silver screen she isn't with regards to the movies.

Harry fled. That means he is cowardly. Voldemort just came back into a normal body and despite not being used to it immediately challenged Harry. Harry fled. Due to the Horcrux and him playing dead. Another cowardly type maneuver. Harry let many die and gave into the demands of a one on one challenge. He didn't die either. Try and make sense, ok.

Harry turned quick like to attack an unsuspecting Voldemort. Voldemort then disarmed thus defeating Harry. He wanted a one on one battle. We see this at multiple points right in front of a Harry. Harry we see let others fight and die for him.

😂

I said both would from a distance as it is smart. We have seen others do it in close proximity.

No, Gandalf was fleeing from them. He wasn't fighting he temp blinded them and tried to flee. Saying he was fighting them off is lying. He fled. You lie all the time. Does this ever work, Abhilegend ?

Voldemort said he was going to leave before they came. That wasn't a fair fight. Voldemort had Dumbledore, Aurors, and Harry opposing him not some lowly grunts. Gandalf tried fleeing from lowly grunts out of cowardice with aid as well.

Being humiliated by Sauron was awesome. Saruman beat his ass as well. That is quite embarrassing to be beaten by Saruman.

They weren't competent wizards at that points. Laughs as you judge them at that age as well.

No, I didn't.

It takes in that which makes it stronger.

It is a sword is the other one something used as a weapon ? Are swords similar to tiaras in your universe ?

When do we see the tiara do so ? My logic is the sword does because we see it and it is stated. Are you this dumb ?

I know the sword can you started talking about the tiara which has no bearing on any of this, Abhilegend. This is exactly what he does is goes off on wild tangents thinking he is proving something.