Originally posted by Epicurus
Proof? Because unless you think that Superman doesn't have a soul, this is retarded to say the least.Read previous para. The Rider isn't just limited to the stare though, he can also bfr Kal into Hell like he did to Rourke in the second movie.
His Hellfire is actually probably his best option by far but I don't think he's gonna be able to land a hit. And as far as that goes we aren't sure how badly it hurts MoS Superman. It could be a lot or a little.
EDIT: I also don't really remember that scene. I only watched the movie once and it was back when it first came to DvD.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
the bad acting for one 😛 😄 😆
Bad Acting or bad WRITING and LAZY directing? 🙄 either way, Cavills ghost roll in MOS makes cage look like a child suffering from down syndrome trying to be an actor 😂 Cages' missed cues in both movies almost makes me feel justified in judging those movies as harshly as I did.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Bad Acting or bad WRITING and LAZY directing? 🙄 either way, Cavills ghost roll in MOS makes cage look like a child suffering from down syndrome trying to be an actor 😂 Cages' missed cues in both movies almost makes me feel justified in judging those movies as harshly as I did.
im glad marvel has the rights to ghost rider again
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
His Hellfire is actually probably his best option by far but I don't think he's gonna be able to land a hit. And as far as that goes we aren't sure how badly it hurts MoS Superman. It could be a lot or a little.EDIT: I also don't really remember that scene. I only watched the movie once and it was back when it first came to DvD.
He used his chain to hurl Rourke back into the pit of Hell.
Originally posted by Impediment
The Penance Stare inflicts unto the receiver all of the pain and suffering they caused to other people, thus destroying their soul.When has Supes caused anyone suffering or pain?
Also, I'd like to point out that the Rider not burning the souls of innocents is him choosing not to, aka CIS. The Stare's only explicit limitation so far has been shown to be soullessness.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Didn't lift a finger to save his foster dad, killed Zod, caused the deaths of untold millions during his grand battle with the rogue kryptonians etc. I mean yeah, all those were situations he was forced into, but being the kind of person that he is, he would still feel nascent guilt over all that stuff. Guilt which the Rider can prey upon. In particular the Pa Kent and Zod scenes are what'll make him vulnerable here.Also, I'd like to point out that the Rider not burning the souls of innocents is him choosing not to, aka CIS. The Stare's only explicit limitation so far has been shown to be soullessness.
Come on, Superman didn't kill millions in the fight. What are you smoking? The city was evacuated.
And what proof do you have that the PS would work on Superman? He's an alien, maybe he doesn't have a soul, maybe it wouldn't affect him. If Blackheart is any indication you don't need a soul to exist and function.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Come on, Superman didn't kill millions in the fight. What are you smoking? The city was evacuated.And what proof do you have that the PS would work on Superman? He's an alien, maybe he doesn't have a soul, maybe it wouldn't affect him. If Blackheart is any indication you don't need a soul to exist and function.
This is neutral battleground, so we don't just randomly assume that he doesn't have a soul(lol at that) or that it wouldn't work on him. Blackheart is a supernatural demonic entity who was explicitly stated to NOT have a soul. Was any such thing ever mentioned for Superman? No.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I don't recall any scene where there was mass evacuation of NYC's population. If you know of such an instance, then refer to me when does such a scene occur.This is neutral battleground, so we don't just randomly assume that he doesn't have a soul(lol at that) or that it wouldn't work on him. Blackheart is a supernatural demonic entity who was explicitly stated to NOT have a soul. Was any such thing ever mentioned for Superman? No.
All the buildings they fought in were empty.
Has the PS ever been used on someone who's not evil? Anyway Superman is too fast to be caught by the PS even if it does work on him. A single uppercut and Ghost Rider will be in orbit.
Originally posted by Epicurus
^Maybe because Superman has literally no way of neutralizing the Rider, while all the Rider has to do is look him in the eyes and deep-fry his soul?
You may have a point to some degree. I don't know if Ghost Rider can die. I do know that Blaze can die though. IT really doesn't matter though because Ghost Rider has no ability what so ever that can harm, Superman. Superman can just hover above Ghost Rider, watching him try whip him with his chains while blasting him with heat vision. Or...,Superman could just simply fly away, thus winning by default because he controls the battle if Ghost Rider has no way to even physically touch him. As already mentioned, the Penance stare wouldn't work.
Originally posted by Epicurus
I asked for proof that Superman would tank his PS. Not what his best options are or are not. If you can't provide evidence, then just say so.He used his chain to hurl Rourke back into the pit of Hell.
lol Its pretty dumb to think it will hurt him. The PS takes all the pain, terror, and evil you have caused to burn your soul. What has Superman even done? lmao at the thought of it hurting him.