Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Dr. Strange had a telepathic battle with Moondragon when she had the mind Gem.That is a myth as well?
......Yes.
she never had the mind gem in Infinity Abyss #3 (and im pretty sure that's what you're referring to, because that's the only one).
Captain Marvel v1 #31, Thanos defeated Moondragon in telepathy, just as well. With smaller effort than Strange did:
http://i.imgur.com/Tdx8ayc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ceNccLJ.jpg
Originally posted by operator616
......Yes.she never had the mind gem in Infinity Abyss #3 (and im pretty sure that's what you're referring to, because that's the only one).
Captain Marvel v1 #31, Thanos defeated Moondragon in telepathy, just as well. With smaller effort than Strange did:
http://i.imgur.com/Tdx8ayc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ceNccLJ.jpg
wait, wait, i think i must have mixed up the battles. argh, stupid gems. can't keep track of when someone had them and when they didn't.... 🙁
^ Well, i remember very well that after Warlock & the infinity watch ended, and the whole Rune and Ultraverse affair started, which was in the mid 90s, that's where she lost the gem (to Rune). Infinity Abyss was 7 years after that, so if we consider that, it's impossible for Moondragon to have possessed the gem at that time. And it was never shown on panel anyways.
Originally posted by operator616
......Yes.she never had the mind gem in Infinity Abyss #3 (and im pretty sure that's what you're referring to, because that's the only one).
Captain Marvel v1 #31, Thanos defeated Moondragon in telepathy, just as well. With smaller effort than Strange did:
http://i.imgur.com/Tdx8ayc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ceNccLJ.jpg
Originally posted by DarkSaint85werent you the one to bring up the synchronicty wave? what can thanos do against that assuming we're calling vertigo John classic considering he's consistently been the same character aging in real time with demon blood to slow it down. But he definitely has been aging
Constantine backstabs and sacrifices Strange, gaining the power necessary to defeat Thanos.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He had the ccu in that fight, didn't he?
Yes, that doesn't mean he used it, though. It was definitely just a telepathic battle. Throughout the story, it's made pretty clear when Thanos is using the cosmic cube, and when he isn't.
If he was using the cosmic cube do you honestly think Thanos couldn't just end the battle within one second? here's the following page and Thanos made it quite clear that any thought of his, became reality:
http://i.imgur.com/7cZ2My8.jpg
im 100% sure that he wasn't utilizing the cube against Moondragon.
If anything it outright says: A mind war. That should be clear enough.
Originally posted by operator616
Yes, that doesn't mean he used it, though. It was definitely just a telepathic battle. Throughout the story, it's made pretty clear when Thanos is using the cosmic cube, and when he isn't.If he was using the cosmic cube do you honestly think Thanos couldn't just end the battle within one second? here's the following page and Thanos made it quite clear that any thought of his, became reality:
http://i.imgur.com/7cZ2My8.jpg
im 100% sure that he wasn't utilizing the cube against Moondragon.
If anything it outright says: A mind war. That should be clear enough.
Originally posted by operator616
Yes, that doesn't mean he used it, though. It was definitely just a telepathic battle. Throughout the story, it's made pretty clear when Thanos is using the cosmic cube, and when he isn't.If he was using the cosmic cube do you honestly think Thanos couldn't just end the battle within one second? here's the following page and Thanos made it quite clear that any thought of his, became reality:
http://i.imgur.com/7cZ2My8.jpg
im 100% sure that he wasn't utilizing the cube against Moondragon.
If anything it outright says: A mind war. That should be clear enough.
Cosmic Cube enhances all the powers of the beings that wield it, it doesn't have to be spelled out when someone is using it or not.
Originally posted by operator616He definitely was not using the cube there.
Yes, that doesn't mean he used it, though. It was definitely just a telepathic battle. Throughout the story, it's made pretty clear when Thanos is using the cosmic cube, and when he isn't.If he was using the cosmic cube do you honestly think Thanos couldn't just end the battle within one second? here's the following page and Thanos made it quite clear that any thought of his, became reality:
http://i.imgur.com/7cZ2My8.jpg
im 100% sure that he wasn't utilizing the cube against Moondragon.
If anything it outright says: A mind war. That should be clear enough.
Originally posted by abhilegend
But that's the thing, he was toying with the people. Here Cap flat out says so.Cosmic Cube enhances all the powers of the beings that wield it, it doesn't have to be spelled out when someone is using it or not.
That's not the case here. Tell me, what do you think the point of Moondragon assaulting him?
Before the Moondragon scene, Captain Marvel and the others attack Thanos and he loses the Cube for a while and tries to regain it:
http://i.imgur.com/PnWY6no.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AA6h02W.jpg
Directly after those scans comes Moondragon scans (which i posted), and before Thanos has the chance to ever utilize the cube, Moondragon engages him in a telepathic battle.
Just because Thanos had the cube in his hand, doesn't mean he's using it (you should know that). Like here, when Thanos had the cube in his hand, yet he lost it after he slipped:
http://i.imgur.com/FNdp6R8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Renlo8F.jpg
It's made pretty clear when Thanos is using the cube and when he doesn't. Like this for example:
http://i.imgur.com/wwuuJX6.jpg?1
Or this:
http://i.imgur.com/vY1BrBI.jpg?1
The cube glows, to indicate that it's in use.
I don't think it's even arguable, tbh.
Im curious to know though: You really do believe that Moondragon's telepathy is strong enough to resist an artifact which merged Thanos with the entire universe in an instant...?
Originally posted by operator616
That's not the case here. Tell me, what do you think the point of Moondragon assaulting him?Before the Moondragon scene, Captain Marvel and the others attack Thanos and he loses the Cube for a while and tries to regain it:
http://i.imgur.com/PnWY6no.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AA6h02W.jpgDirectly after those scans comes Moondragon scans (which i posted), and before Thanos has the chance to ever utilize the cube, Moondragon engages him in a telepathic battle.
Just because Thanos had the cube in his hand, doesn't mean he's using it (you should know that). Like here, when Thanos had the cube in his hand, yet he lost it after he slipped:
http://i.imgur.com/FNdp6R8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Renlo8F.jpgIt's made pretty clear when Thanos is using the cube and when he doesn't. Like this for example:
http://i.imgur.com/wwuuJX6.jpg?1
Or this:
http://i.imgur.com/vY1BrBI.jpg?1
The cube glows, to indicate that it's in use.
I don't think it's even arguable, tbh.
Im curious to know though: You really do believe that Moondragon's telepathy is strong enough to resist an artifact which merged Thanos with the entire universe in an instant...?
Do you see how even before he became the universe, he had the "infinite" power? I hope you do because this "cube glows so thanos was using it and shit" is pretty hilarious. For what its worth we see the cube faintly glowing here too.
This "arguing over minutia" shit is pretty annoying. Thanos had the CCU when he beat Moondragon and that should be the end of argument. Its like arguing The Hood beat Xavier on his own in TP when he had the mind gem and he didn't even knew he was using it.
^ O.....K.
Sorry to disappoint you, but this scan from the beginning of issue #33 is completely irrelevant. Because where did i ever claim that the cube's power was not infinite before Thanos' grand transformation??? Right, i didn't. I was merely saying that if Thanos held it, it doesn't mean he's using it.....which should be obvious for everyone reading the story.
Nice, so you left out the next panel where it shows that the cube is not glowing in his right hand:
http://i.imgur.com/xykiFqO.jpg?1
ey, pay attention instead of resorting to unwaranted insults.
The fact that you believe that "thanos holding the cosmic cube = thanos using the cube" is ridiculous. Because that's not the case at all.
Still waiting for this part, though:
Originally posted by operator616
Im curious to know though: You really do believe that Moondragon's telepathy is strong enough to resist an artifact which merged Thanos with the entire universe in an instant...?
Let's see you answer that.
On panel it was stated that there was a "struggle" and time was actually taken to seek anything in the subconscious that could be used for an advantage. With the cube in effect, this should've been a rape as soon as they engaged. Not really surprising Thanos can do this on his own though because she failed against Strange relatively easily + she failed against Surfer when she had the MG.
Originally posted by operator616That's not what happened. AT ALL. Thanos was merely playing with everyone there, he wasn't using his own powers though. He was using CCU as the panel shows where Moondragon is also present as captured when Thanos captured her via beating her in TP. Its totally relevant.
^ O.....K.Sorry to disappoint you, but this scan from the beginning of issue #33 is completely irrelevant. Because where did i ever claim that the cube's power was not infinite before Thanos' grand transformation??? Right, i didn't. I was merely saying that if Thanos held it, it doesn't mean he's using it.....which should be obvious for everyone reading the story.
Nice, so you left out the next panel where it shows that the cube is not glowing in his right hand:So he was using it for nothing in one panel and not using it in the next? What was he doing with it in the panel I posted though?
ey, pay attention instead of resorting to unwaranted insults.Insults? What insults?
The fact that you believe that "thanos holding the cosmic cube = thanos using the cube" is ridiculous. Because that's not the case at all.Of course its ridiculous.
Still waiting for this part, though:That's where this coms in.Let's see you answer that.
Because marvel was knocking around Thanos' actual form with CCU. Mar-vell for skyfather level!!!!
Originally posted by Sundipped
On panel it was stated that there was a "struggle" and time was actually taken to seek anything in the subconscious that could be used for an advantage. With the cube in effect, this should've been a rape as soon as they engaged. Not really surprising Thanos can do this on his own though because she failed against Strange relatively easily + she failed against Surfer when she had the MG.
^ i know Moondragon didn't have the gem vs Strange and links aren't that impressive. If anything it makes Thanos achieving victory over MD using his own power more reasonable. Surfer resisted while she was amped and Strange broke her as well.
I think we can all agree that if the cube was used, the battle wouldn't have lasted the couple panels that it did. 👆
Originally posted by abhilegendYou don't ever answer his questions directly because you know it shows your position to be utterly ridiculous. Thanos didn't use the cube against her in the mind war.
That's not what happened. AT ALL. Thanos was merely playing with everyone there, he wasn't using his own powers though. He was using CCU as the panel shows where Moondragon is also present as captured when Thanos captured her via beating her in TP. Its totally relevant.So he was using it for nothing in one panel and not using it in the next? What was he doing with it in the panel I posted though?
Insults? What insults?
Of course its ridiculous.
That's where this coms in.
Because marvel was knocking around Thanos' actual form with CCU. Mar-vell for skyfather level!!!!
🙂
Originally posted by Sundipped
^ i know Moondragon didn't have the gem vs Strange and links aren't that impressive. If anything it makes Thanos achieving victory over MD using his own power more reasonable. Surfer resisted while she was amped and Strange broke her as well.I think we can all agree that if the cube was used, the battle wouldn't have lasted the couple panels that it did. 👆
