Thanos vs Classic Strange/Constantine

Started by Sundipped4 pages

^Yeah he pretty much played with everybody. Marvel was only really evading a Thanos who got the cube knocked out his hand but as it turns out, it was almost as if he had the cube when he inevitably wound up one shotting Marvel but that's something Thanos is fully capable of on his own.

Originally posted by Sundipped
^Yeah he pretty much played with everybody. Marvel was only really evading a Thanos who got the cube knocked out his hand but as it turns out, it was almost as if he had the cube when he inevitably wound up one shotting Marvel but that's something Thanos is fully capable of on his own.

The thing is Thanos isn't strong enough to toy with moonie in psi as Starlin himself wrote her as being better in TP than Thanos later. Thanos was using CCU for that.

Also Thanos had drained the CCU at that point in himself. Knocking it out of his hands didn't decrease his powers.

Thanos never used the cube to fight MD in the mental battle, it's made pretty clear by what MD say that he power is nothing to Thanos but mentally she can match him.

It's been made clear several time Thanos TP is stronger for instance during Imperative when she needs two other to handle him or in Annihilation when she TP blasts him and doesn't even phase him, he'll he just sighs and makes a smart ass remark

Pretty sure he didn't use the cube.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The thing is Thanos isn't strong enough to toy with moonie in psi as Starlin himself wrote her as being better in TP than Thanos later. Thanos was using CCU for that.

Also Thanos had drained the CCU at that point in himself. Knocking it out of his hands didn't decrease his powers.

MD only provided a link. Thanos tried to pry info out of Galactus on the mental plane after he was contacted but failed because Galactus is no slouch in that department himself.

Well you heard Marvel state that he was toying with them (Drax included) so that explains why he wasn't instantly obliterated.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Thanos never used the cube to fight MD in the mental battle, it's made pretty clear by what MD say that he power is nothing to Thanos but mentally she can match him.

It's been made clear several time Thanos TP is stronger for instance during Imperative when she needs two other to handle him or in Annihilation when she TP blasts him and doesn't even phase him, he'll he just sighs and makes a smart ass remark


That makes his psi shields stronger than she could pierce. She IS a better telepath than him though.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Pretty sure he didn't use the cube.

Of course he did. It was plainly stated here.

You can see moondragon as one of the captives he used his infinite power to capture.

Originally posted by Sundipped
MD only provided a link. Thanos tried to pry info out of Galactus on the mental plane after he was contacted but failed because Galactus is no slouch in that department himself.

Well you heard Marvel state that he was toying with them (Drax included) so that explains why he wasn't instantly obliterated.


And why didn't Thanos contacted Galactus on his own if he's a better TP than moonie?

The same with moondragon. Thanos with CCU shouldn't struggle with moondragon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That makes his psi shields stronger than she could pierce. She IS a better telepath than him though.
Of course he did. It was plainly stated here.

You can see moondragon as one of the captives he used his infinite power to capture.

And why didn't Thanos contacted Galactus on his own if he's a better TP than moonie?

The same with moondragon. Thanos with CCU shouldn't struggle with moondragon.

he was weakend during imperative and she still needed help and she still was t powerful enough to penetrate his mind during annihilation as he had to let her into his mind .

The scan you posted was after the mind battle when he had already won and had her under his control.

He used MD to create the mental plaine him a g Galactus met on, so he could focus all mental power on Galactus that's why only he appeared infront on Galactus

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he was weakend during imperative and she still needed help and she still was t powerful enough to penetrate his mind during annihilation as he had to let her into his mind .

The scan you posted was after the mind battle when he had already won and had her under his control.

He used MD to create the mental plaine him a g Galactus met on, so he could focus all mental power on Galactus that's why only he appeared infront on Galactus


She stated his psi-shields were strong. It wasn't a battle between two telepaths. Starlin wrote Thanos' mind being impenetrable to moondragon with mind gem in Infinity Watch too. Doesn't mean he is a better telepath than Moondragon with mind gem. He isn't a better telepath than Xavier whose aid he needed against Goddess.

That's not what happened. Thanos had the CCU against her and that's what was shown in the retelling.

I would like to see the scan where it was stated that he used Moondragon just to conserve his telepathy against Galactus. Its not in the comic I have.

This feat is not usable for Thanos. Not in the slightest.

Originally posted by Uriel005
werent you the one to bring up the synchronicty wave? what can thanos do against that assuming we're calling vertigo John classic considering he's consistently been the same character aging in real time with demon blood to slow it down. But he definitely has been aging

I did, and there's not much he can do, but John would still have to do a bit of legwork. My theory was one that fits the characters and would fit a Constantine story.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was because Thanos was playing as Mar-Vell revealed later. Thanos with CCU vs Captain Mar-Vell shouldn't last one panel. It occurred for several pages.

Well that's because Mar- Vell is a sky father. 😱

Con Jon tricks Strange into being right where he needs him to be Thanos's patsy.
He cons Thanos into using Strange as a conduit to steal vast magic power in a way that he has set up to betray death and lose Thanos her blessing.
Just when he senses Thanos no longer has Death protection he sticks him in the back with the blade he used to kill FoF in Greece, result is he ends up with the power of BOTH Strange and Thanos and Deaths blessing.

He walks off lighting another camel and gives the corps of all fallen behind him the finger.

That sounds like a usual Constantine plot line.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what happened. AT ALL. Thanos was merely playing with everyone there, he wasn't using his own powers though. He was using CCU as the panel shows where Moondragon is also present as captured when Thanos captured her via beating her in TP. Its totally relevant.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That makes his psi shields stronger than she could pierce. She IS a better telepath than him though.
Of course he did. It was plainly stated here.

http://i.imgur.com/vex8zY5.jpg

You can see moondragon as one of the captives he used his infinite power to capture.

What?

I already told you that that was a different case. In issue #31, Thanos loses the cube temporarily and tries to get it back, only to engage Moondy in a mind war. What the hell does that have to do with Thanos playing everyone after he merged with the universe?

Your scan shows Moondragon restrained with the others through the cosmic cube, which is true; because one page after Thanos' TP battle with Moondragon, he restrained her and the others through the cube:

http://i.imgur.com/hksjMav.jpg?1

Pay attention to the left side of the scan where we (partially) see Moondragon getting restrained by Thanos with the cube. And that's what your scan from issue 33 shows. Nothing contradictory at all.

So again: Your scan is totally, completely, and utterly irrelevant.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So he was using it for nothing in one panel and not using it in the next? What was he doing with it in the panel I posted though?

He was about to use it. When Moondragon engaged him in a mind war, he was unable to use it until he frees his mind. Clear and simple.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Insults? What insults?

Maybe not insults, but the hostility is definitely there.....for some reason.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's where this coms in.

http://imgur.com/93Y3iAa

Because marvel was knocking around Thanos' actual form with CCU. Mar-vell for skyfather level!!!!

He did no such thing. Not sure where you're getting this idea from.

And how exactly does that answer my question? Don't avoid it, id like to hear you answer that. Because when you do, you'll realize how ridiculous it is (Thanos barely beating Moondragon in a telepathic battle enhanced by the cube, same cube, which merged him with the universe in an instant.........).

Basically there's no narration/statement/ anything saying that the cube enhanced Thanos, which makes sense considering that Moondragon barely holding her own against Thanos with the cube, isn't believable. So not only do you not have evidence to support your stance, but your argument doesn't make sense, to begin with.

Im done arguing about this topic, believe what you want.

Originally posted by Sundipped

I think we can all agree that if the cube was used, the battle wouldn't have lasted the couple panels that it did.

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Cant believe some people can't see the obvious.

Originally posted by operator616
[B]What?

I already told you that that was a different case.

In what sense?
In issue #31, Thanos loses the cube temporarily and tries to get it back, only to engage Moondy in a mind war. What the hell does that have to do with Thanos playing everyone after he merged with the universe?
Thanos got the cube back one panel before Moonie engaged him. I don't have to tell you how CCU works, do I? It grants people their wishes.

Your scan shows Moondragon restrained with the others through the cosmic cube, which is true; because one page after Thanos' TP battle with Moondragon, he restrained her and the others through the cube:

http://i.imgur.com/hksjMav.jpg?1

Heaven forbid someone thinks that he was using CCU in their Psi battle too. Starlin never wrote Thanos being a better psi than Moonie without CCU. That fact alone throws doubt over that feat.

Pay attention to the left side of the scan where we (partially) see Moondragon getting restrained by Thanos with the cube. And that's what your scan from issue 33 shows. Nothing contradictory at all.
So, what was the glow in that panel before moonie engaged him doing?

So again: Your scan is totally, completely, and utterly irrelevant.
Heh.

He was about to use it. When Moondragon engaged him in a mind war, he was unable to use it until he frees his mind. Clear and simple.
Unable to? Where the **** was that stated?

Maybe not insults, but the hostility is definitely there.....for some reason.
Meh, that's how I sound most of the times. No hard feelings there bro.

He did no such thing. Not sure where you're getting this idea from.
From Starlin's own works? Why did Thanos needed Xavier, Moondragon and ****ing Sleepwalker to battle Goddess when he is above Moondragon already before he got an amp?

And how exactly does that answer my question? Don't avoid it, id like to hear you answer that. Because when you do, you'll realize how ridiculous it is (Thanos barely beating Moondragon in a telepathic battle enhanced by the cube, same cube, which merged him with the universe in an instant.........).
He was playing with her obviously. Its no more ridiculous than IG Thanos getting his shit kicked in by Earth's heroes or getting his head blown off by Quasar. There was no narration there either.

Basically there's no narration/statement/ anything saying that the cube enhanced Thanos, which makes sense considering that Moondragon barely holding her own against Thanos with the cube, isn't believable. So not only do you not have evidence to support your stance, but your argument doesn't make sense, to begin with.
And neither was there a narration/statement/anything saying that Thanos wasn't using the cube there either. Anyway that's an ambiguous feat and you denying the obvious doesn't makes this non-ambiguous. If you like I can ask a mod about it.

Im done arguing about this topic, believe what you want.
The next time you bring up a feat from IG, I would ask where was the narration stating he was using IG. This entire discussion is laughable. No offense.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She stated his psi-shields were strong. It wasn't a battle between two telepaths. Starlin wrote Thanos' mind being impenetrable to moondragon with mind gem in Infinity Watch too. Doesn't mean he is a better telepath than Moondragon with mind gem. He isn't a better telepath than Xavier whose aid he needed against Goddess.

That's not what happened. Thanos had the CCU against her and that's what was shown in the retelling.

I would like to see the scan where it was stated that he used Moondragon just to conserve his telepathy against Galactus. Its not in the comic I have.

This feat is not usable for Thanos. Not in the slightest.

She and the other two were in his mind in Imperative he forced them out.
Starlin never wrote that, Warlock made a rule when he was god that the gems couldnt be used on other Infinity Watch members thats why she couldnt see in. Thanos has telepathic feats to match Xavier, Charles has been TP punked by the likes of Apocalypse.

Yeah he had the cube but never used it or the battle would of been over instantly just like how easliy he captured kronos. Operator already put you straight on this

Are you kidding? Thanos even explains to Galactus all he has to do is blink and and he will meet on a pre arranged mental plaine.

Why do you honestly think only Thanos is seen before Galactus and trying overtake his mind, and Thanos is the only one that feels the effect of the mind battle.

It is you just do want Thanos to have any type of feats period.

Well, besides the current argument... lol at people thinking Strange could beat Thanos.

Constantine... I don't even know anymore.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Well, besides the current argument... lol at people thinking Strange could beat Thanos.

Constantine... I don't even know anymore.

He's always been a walking plot device, with an actual walking plot device power - now he's interacting with the greater DC universe, that's all.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
She and the other two were in his mind in Imperative he forced them out.
Starlin never wrote that, Warlock made a rule when he was god that the gems couldnt be used on other Infinity Watch members thats why she couldnt see in. Thanos has telepathic feats to match Xavier, Charles has been TP punked by the likes of Apocalypse.

Yeah he had the cube but never used it or the battle would of been over instantly just like how easliy he captured kronos. Operator already put you straight on this

Are you kidding? Thanos even explains to Galactus all he has to do is blink and and he will meet on a pre arranged mental plaine.

Why do you honestly think only Thanos is seen before Galactus and trying overtake his mind, and Thanos is the only one that feels the effect of the mind battle.

It is you just do want Thanos to have any type of feats period.


So? People force telepaths out of their minds everytime in comics. Do you think Thanos is a better TP than moondragon with mind gem? When she asked why she couldn't see in his mind, his answer wasn't that he was a member of Watch. It was "I'm thanos". Warlock had Thanos as a contingency, he was never an official member. Also Apoc was amped on the energy of The Twelve. Did you somehow forgot that?

That's not a viable explanation here. Thanos vs Mar-vell should've ended in one panel, it didn't.

And that was done via moondragon's TP. Why use her when Thanos is a better TP? Why use Xavier, Moondragon and ****ing sleepwalker against Goddess?

Because Thanos used Moondragon to contact Galactus, that's where her job ended.

You are confusing me with h1.

Thanos did imply that Moondragon would destroy his mind if she wanted to when he let her read his mind during Annihilation.

At the cost of one of his own limbs, he could trap the Spectre.

Imagine what he could do if he sacrificed a magic user such as Strange?

With thanks to Galan.

http://imgur.com/qzATchC

Originally posted by leonidas
i thought most of the strange myths had been suitably busted. several times. alas.....

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It's not that he couldn't hang with Thanos for a while, properly prepped and artifact-carrying. But yeah, he's in trouble in a drawn out fight.