DP Tyrant vs Arena Monarch

Originally posted by zopzop

And a Batkick made Spectre cry out in pain and he even drew blood.

But we saw both attacks were ultimately meaningless.

Wrong.

Tyrant's body was decimated from UN strikes when Morg was wielding the Nullifier. Then the Nullifier started overloading and Morg cut off his arm and made a run for it.

The Nullifier exploded and everyone in the surrounding area was presumed dead. It was later revealed that Galactus teleported himself and his heralds to safety in another dimension right before the Nullifer went off, where he stayed to heal up after his fight with Tyrant.

EDIT -
Also the reason the Nullifier explosion was "only" solar system wide was because Galactus locked down his worldship to contain the blast lest it wreck havoc on the rest of the universe. [/B]

So? The robot of Tyrant made Morg stay with the UN and Tyrant was still killed by a solar system busting blast. How did Morg end up dead in Annihilation BTW?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre later clarified it was due to him lowering his defenses to let Batman vent some frustrations. I don't know what that's supposed to mean, a normal human has split Spectre's head open with a bat. He's made out of ectoplasma, its not the most durable thing in the world and its entirely meaningless to harm the body of spectre.

So? The robot of Tyrant made Morg stay with the UN and Tyrant was still killed by a solar system busting blast. How did Morg end up dead in Annihilation BTW?

The reason why Tyrant couldn't flee like Galactus is because Morg wrecked his body with the Nullifier. He was dissolved down to just a piece of his upper body.

Morg ended up dead in Annihilation because Annihilus' scientists killed him while trying to dissect him to discover the secret of the Power Cosmic (or something like that).

Originally posted by zopzop

The point is, stupid sh|t happens in comics all the time. Like Spider-man owning Firelord or Hulk.

Wrong. Morg cut off his hand/arm and made a run for it right before the blast went off. And it was only because of Galactus' quick thinking that the nullification blast was contained to "only" a solar system.

The reason why Tyrant couldn't flee like Galactus is because Morg wrecked his body with the Nullifier. He was dissolved down to just a piece of his upper body.

Morg ended up dead in Annihilation because Annihilus' scientists killed him while trying to dissect him to discover the secret of the Power Cosmic (or something like that). [/B]

It was just a force blast which killed Tyrant BTW. Surfer survived its concussive force with just being knocked out.

http://imgur.com/WChSvIz
http://imgur.com/2A4P4Q8
http://imgur.com/qfumN8j
http://imgur.com/ELbFYV0

Tyrant was killed by a solar system level blast. Undeniable Fact.

And Annihilus' scientist found Morg inside a tomb already dead. They couldn't extract PC from his body because of that.

Since when did getting hit by the UN in any shape, form, or fashion become a low showing? Too much emphasis is placed on what would happen if Tyrant forcibly breaches the armor and I don't see why because that =s a automatic loss for Monarch anyway.

Too bad Monarch doesn't have razor sharp or piercing type weapons like Ganymede or Terrax. As it stands, blunt force and energy projection that was barely fazing a trans level being with a fading amp isn't going to cut it....no pun intended.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Since when did getting hit by the UN in any shape, form, or fashion become a low showing? Too much emphasis is placed on what would happen if Tyrant forcibly breaches the armor and I don't see why because that =s a automatic loss for Monarch anyway.

Too bad Monarch doesn't have razor sharp or piercing type weapons like Ganymede or Terrax. As it stands, blunt force and energy projection that was barely fazing a trans level being with a fading amp isn't going to cut it....no pun intended.

Also Tyrant was killed by a solar system level attack. IF Tyrant can breach Monarch's armor he would score a draw. Funny thing is, Monarch was literally toying with a trans level character in SMP. Tyrant fought with a team consisting of Terrax, Jack of Hearts, Ganeymede and Legacy for pages and had to attack several times t just down Terrax and Jack Of Hearts. Monarch would laugh at that team.

Also crylaugh @ piercing weapons. Ganeymede's staff is now a piercing weapon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the blast hit surfer too and he wasn't atomized? Morg wasn't atomized either as shown later in Annihilation? Only Tyrant was totally atomized.

Also Tyrant was killed by a solar system level attack. IF Tyrant can breach Monarch's armor he would score a draw. Funny thing is, Monarch was literally toying with a trans level character in SMP. Tyrant fought with a team consisting of Terrax, Jack of Hearts, Ganeymede and Legacy for pages and had to attack several times t just down Terrax and Jack Of Hearts. Monarch would laugh at that team.

Also crylaugh @ piercing weapons. Ganeymede's staff is now a piercing weapon.

Once the armor is breached he loses. A monitor easily tanked the attack as did his shields.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the blast hit surfer too and he wasn't atomized? Morg wasn't atomized either as shown later in Annihilation? Only Tyrant was totally atomized.

Also Tyrant was killed by a solar system level attack. IF Tyrant can breach Monarch's armor he would score a draw. Funny thing is, Monarch was literally toying with a trans level character in SMP. Tyrant fought with a team consisting of Terrax, Jack of Hearts, Ganeymede and Legacy for pages and had to attack several times t just down Terrax and Jack Of Hearts. Monarch would laugh at that team.

Also crylaugh @ piercing weapons. Ganeymede's staff is now a piercing weapon.

So WTH are you saying? That Surfer or Morg can tank UN energies if directly hit?
Not that Monarch toying with Prime shit again. 😐 A trans with a amp knows he faces certain death against Tyrant. A trans with no amps is proven to be a Monarch buster. 😂 The best Monarch can hope for is for Tyrant to breach so he can at least earn a stalemate.

Whatever Ganymede's staff is....Monarch is phucked because he ain't got it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You can throw all the stuff you know about lower tier heroes beating a herald or what not but it wouldn't mean shit. Terrax or Ganeymede didn't knock out Tyrant, they made him feel pain which characters do all the time in comics to upper tier characters. Quit bitching.

It was just a force blast which killed Tyrant BTW. Surfer survived its concussive force with just being knocked out.

http://imgur.com/WChSvIz
http://imgur.com/2A4P4Q8
http://imgur.com/qfumN8j
http://imgur.com/ELbFYV0

Tyrant was killed by a solar system level blast. Undeniable Fact.

And Annihilus' scientist found Morg inside a tomb already dead. They couldn't extract PC from his body because of that.

Tyrant's body was destroyed by the Nullifier's blasts prior to the Nullifier overloading. That's why he couldn't tp himself to safety like Galactus did with his heralds.

Surfer wasn't anywhere near the nullification aura yet he was still knocked for a loop by the concussive force from the aftermath of the blast. It's not like he survived nullification.

And I could have sworn Annihilus' forced capture Morg and he died during experimentation. Can anyone confirm this?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre later clarified it was due to him lowering his defenses to let Batman vent some frustrations. I don't know what that's supposed to mean, a normal human has split Spectre's head open with a bat.

Originally posted by Sundipped
So WTH are you saying? That Surfer or Morg can tank UN energies if directly hit?
Not that Monarch toying with Prime shit again. 😐 A trans with a amp knows he faces certain death against Tyrant. A trans with no amps is proven to be a Monarch buster. 😂 The best Monarch can hope for is for Tyrant to breach so he can at least earn a stalemate.

Whatever Ganymede's staff is....Monarch is phucked because he ain't got it.

Why not? Monarch wasn't paying much attention to SMP, he beat the guardian amp out of him while merely toying with him. Thanos with some portion of morg's power=SBP with Guardian amp? Monarch can't beat Tyrant because he doesn't have Ganeymede's useless staff which surfer was able to endure without much trouble or Terrax's axe? Hahaha. You done clowning yet?

Originally posted by zopzop
What are you talking about?

Tyrant's body was destroyed by the Nullifier's blasts prior to the Nullifier overloading. That's why he couldn't tp himself to safety like Galactus did with his heralds.

Surfer wasn't anywhere near the nullification aura yet he was still knocked for a loop by the concussive force from the aftermath of the blast. It's not like he survived nullification.

And I could have sworn Annihilus' forced capture Morg and he died during experimentation. Can anyone confirm this?

Now you're flat out lying.

Surfer wasn't at ground zero but he was hit by the very same energy blast which killed Tyrant albeit buffeted.

Originally posted by Galan007
It strikes me as odd that none of Arenarch's other durability feats are being considered... That only a single 'low' showing is being cherry-picked over everything else. One thing is for sure: the 'critical mass' ring attack must have been insanely powerful, given the plethora of other attacks from very powerful beings Arenarch tanked w/o so much as a scratch to show for it.

It also strikes me as odd that the inconsistency of said 'low' showing is being overlooked. Arenarch purposefully removed his faceplate later on in the story, as well as in an entirely different series. Without incident.

But hey, whatever it takes to give Tyrant the win, I guess. 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend

How the hell getting your legs atomized stops someone from teleporting?

Now you're flat out lying.

Surfer wasn't at ground zero but he was hit by the very same energy blast which killed Tyrant albeit buffeted.

I'm starting to realize that was one poorly written arc mmm

Lets see this

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I am willing to get this debate moded and who ever loses leaves KMC banned in shame forever with a note in the closed profile that says "banned for being a b1tch and a troll", are you game?

Your response was:

Originally posted by quanchi112
The end of yours is a rant which has nothing to do with the debate itself.

You punk out

Keep trying to get my attention, is amusing how much I consume you. 😆

Originally posted by zopzop

It wasn't just "his legs" the nullifier blasts from Morg left only the extreme upper portion of his body. He was wrecked and bleeding energy. The fact that Tyrant even survived a direct hit from the nullifier and didn't outright die is impressive as hell.

No he wasn't. He was hit by the concussive force of the aftermath of the nullification of Galactus' world ship. [/B]

Morg survived too and he was at the ground zero.

😛

Originally posted by abhilegend
And the nullification energy was only directed at his legs. If it was directed at his whole body, he would've died like he did at the end.

Morg survived too and he was at the ground zero.

😛

Originally posted by zopzop

Nope, he was hit at LEAST twice. Here's Morg nullifying his arm(s) :

Didn't he cut off his arm, punch a hole in Galactus's ship, and make a run for it? [/B]

It all happened at once, Morg tried to run but he was hit by the blast.

Is Abhi doing his stupid routine again... How the **** is getting hit with a UN blast and NOT dying a low feat? This is bordering on stupid.. even for Abhi. Monarch would've been WTF pwned and killed by the same blast. Tyrant even survived a UN blast and now that is used to say he has weak durability LMAO... Damn the stupidity is strong in this thread.

Tyrant wins.. and it wouldn't be overall difficult.

Hey buddy, first tell us how DOS Doomsday and H/P Doomsday are about same in strength, these kind of arguments are above your paygrade.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=245390.0

As it is, I'm not going to waste my time with you.

Ohh right people saying HP is a totally different beast.. means he is... My point wasn't whether HP or DOS Doomsday were the same strength.. my point is... How is Doomsday breaking supermans arm or him doing anything to superman overly impressive? Do you know how many times Superman has been treated like a weak feeb... Tossed around.. KO'd.. One shot.. punked... It's happened more times than I can count... So why does HP get so much credit for doing something many others have done? That is the point... I asked you to prove HP is significantly stronger than DOS Doomsday.. You never backed up your case.

Ya know.. I think I'm going to compile a list of comments directed at your piss poor reading comprehension of scans and overall stupidity you exhibit and how it's commented on ALL the time. I know it will take me awhile to compile them.. but damn it's gonna be funny eh Abhi?