Dynamic Strength......

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
While it was stated in BLOOD AND THUNDER that it wasn't true warrior madness, the way Thor easily defeated characters in his tier, and dealt with Thanos who is clearly above it shows he went up several tiers.

The characters involved and the setting allow for a clear appraisal of the increase in power.

The other instances still fall in the realm of average Thor doing the aforementioned "Comeback" that takes place in heroic fiction.

Lol, do you even know what you're saying here?

Regarding Thor and dynamic strength, I did a whole post on it at ICT when I was messing around with a particular Superman fan:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254887.msg4271306#msg4271306

Doesn't get any more dynamic then some of the examples I brought up. Have fun Carver!

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Oops, my pants just fell down.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Still thick!

Not thick enough, and still thicker than carver's ice.

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Anyway, guys, seriously, get back on topic please.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Originally posted by -Pr-

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So this doesn't means Superman has dynamic strength either?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Will do.
It does. Superman can become total human if he forgets his powers.

http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/02-%20Adventures%20of%20Superman%20426/?action=view&current=AdventuresOfSuperman426p05.jpg
http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/02-%20Adventures%20of%20Superman%20426/?action=view&current=AdventuresOfSuperman426p06.jpg

And his stats fluctuate with the belief in his powers.

http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/03%20Action%20Comics%20586/?action=view&current=ac_586_03.jpg
http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/03%20Action%20Comics%20586/?action=view&current=ac_586_04.jpg
http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/03%20Action%20Comics%20586/?action=view&current=ac_586_06.jpg

When darkseid says he's nearly as strong as him, he became just that strong.

http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/03%20Action%20Comics%20586/?action=view&current=ac_586_07.jpg
http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/03%20Action%20Comics%20586/?action=view&current=ac_586_08.jpg
http://s764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/1987%20May%20Legends%20Apokolips%20Saga/03%20Action%20Comics%20586/?action=view&current=ac_586_09.jpg

And when he is freed from mental control, he smacks Darkseid around like a two bit whore.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/ActionComics586b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/ActionComics586c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/ActionComics586d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/ActionComics586e.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/darkseid/ActionComics586f.jpg

So superman can go from human to near darkseid level to above darkseid level based on his mental state.

Or being completely human and superman again by the belief in himself?

http://i.imgur.com/MKQ1Ln8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wTt6VdP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/321QZGM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aYOvjh9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qLYmeLi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nte428S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k9g57uX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OMjhlBD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qlr27lk.jpg

Watch kids, Thor demonstrating his dynamic strength.

Ultimus oneshots Thor.

<Thor> "You knocked me out once, but now I have your measure!"

<Superma--err--Demon Druid> *knocks out Thor, again*

<Thor> :That's it, I'm going to pull out all the stop and fight you to a double KO with energy blasts and all that where Ultimus wakes up earlier"*

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/r61v.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/sxo0.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/73x9.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/7e4r.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/nxdn.jpg/

Whew.

Thor's other equal Hercules didn't fare any better. Who came to the rescue and taught how to get the job done?

http://i.imgur.com/VEvDsv3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZjI2KRN.jpg

Why? Our good ol' captain america, who else? Hell of a dynamic factor Thor, you're almost as strong as Cap.

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Originally posted by -Pr-

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Abhi, your first post, while fine, doesn't excuse your second. Get on topic.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Abhi, your first post, while fine, doesn't excuse your second. Get on topic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So this doesn't means Superman has dynamic strength either?

Or being completely human and superman again by the belief in himself?

http://i.imgur.com/MKQ1Ln8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wTt6VdP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/321QZGM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aYOvjh9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qLYmeLi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nte428S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k9g57uX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OMjhlBD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qlr27lk.jpg

Has his strength ever been described as finite?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Has his strength ever been described as finite?

http://i.imgur.com/sstlbJm.jpg

Look, it took all his strength just to retrieve highfather's staff. Later he tore a hole the size of a planet from the source wall.

Going by what was said in this thread, that is a hell of a holding back factor, wouldn't you think? Compare a staff to a planet and a beast from some more random beasts, which is greater?

On topic. If superman and hulk have a test of strength, hulk would win without question in the strength amping area. Superman would stop holding back and use his full strength ( like he has done in plenty comics ) he would cap out the minute those blocks go down because he would give it his all. ( you would not be called peers with the likes of CM, BA and others by ALL the writers if you could Amp beyond them by willpower )

Now on the other hand, hulk is known by all writers to get stronger as his anger grows. This thread means that if superman and hulk stand face to face and start amping their strength be it anger or willpower, there is no contest period. We have seen an all out superman fight his peers and remained equal, but we have seen hulk fight his peers ( base ) and stronger characters only to see hulk surpass them in strength. If you cannot surpass your peers who are stated as your equal or very close in strength, then an answer is already given.

He has went all out against Adam, Wonder Woman, Doomsday, etc, and I didn't see a difference in power. Adam even withstood a punch from an all out Superman with no injuries.

Originally posted by JBL
On topic. If superman and hulk have a test of strength, hulk would win without question in the strength amping area. Superman would stop holding back and use his full strength ( like he has done in plenty comics ) he would cap out the minute those blocks go down because he would give it his all. ( you would not be called peers with the likes of CM, BA and others by ALL the writers if you could Amp beyond them by willpower )

Now on the other hand, hulk is known by all writers to get stronger as his anger grows. This thread means that if superman and hulk stand face to face and start amping their strength be it anger or willpower, there is no contest period. We have seen an all out superman fight his peers and remained equal, but we have seen hulk fight his peers ( base ) and stronger characters only to see hulk surpass them in strength. If you cannot surpass your peers who are stated as your equal or very close in strength, then an answer is already given.

So if there was no one there to anger him (no one taunting him) and he was in a closed room without seeing his opponents...he won't be able to get to that level?

Plus, based on space cheese feats, Supes/Marvel have lifted the infinity book. As has Ultraman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if there was no one there to anger him (no one taunting him) and he was in a closed room without seeing his opponents...he won't be able to get to that level?

Plus, based on space cheese feats, Supes/Marvel have lifted the infinity book. As has Ultraman.

Originally posted by JBL
True but i assume the OP means that hulk can just start getting angry to benefit this thread. BTW, that book was the book of infinite pages, it somehow transformed into the book of infinite weight 🙄 . lol. Good point though Dark.

Yah...I guess people (myself included) tried to apply real world logic to...a book that holds an infinite amount of pages.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Well, this thread went well. Half of you are one bad post away from getting banned, so either cut it out, or just don't post to each other.

I'm not closing this yet, but It's getting to the point where I will.

Suckers!!! Big Thanosi is never subject to this.. me and PR are tight like a snuggie on a cold day.