Republicans Slash Food Stamps

Originally posted by Firefly218
It's society which grants you freedoms and luxuries you otherwise wouldn't have. It is all members of society as a collective whole that allow for your success. It's only proper to give back when you're in a position to do so.

Edit: Then again, you were probably joking so this comment is irrelevant 😕

Giving is not the same as taking.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Giving is not the same as taking.

NO SH¡T

Originally posted by Firefly218
NO SH¡T

Taxes are taking, not giving.

Taxes are reinvested into society. When people don't take advantage of government benefits or tax loopholes, it helps society as a whole. Those benefits can then go to people or companies that actually need them

Originally posted by Firefly218
Taxes are reinvested into society. When people don't take advantage of government benefits or tax loopholes, it helps society as a whole. Those benefits can then go to people or companies that actually need them

Still, the government takes the money from you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Still, the government takes the money from you.

And gives it back in different ways.

Originally posted by Firefly218
And gives it back in different ways.

What a dreamer. They give it to their friends and rich supporters on both sides. We only get enough to keep us quiet.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What a dreamer. They give it to their friends and rich supporters on both sides. We only get enough to keep us quiet.

The goverment ****ed up.

I'd love to show the world how great I can be, but since I can't be all I can be because of other's greed, it's time for a bloody uprising.

That's a promise.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What a dreamer. They give it to their friends and rich supporters on both sides. We only get enough to keep us quiet.

Are you seriously advocating for no taxes? Taxes are essential for the continued sustenance of government, without which there would be no government. Without government we can't have society, and therefore we can't enjoy the luxuries functioning society brings. I understand that our gov system isn't perfect, but it works a hell of a lot better then some of the other ones out there.

BTW, the gov spends a vast majority of our taxes on social welfare and military - not on supporters. The gov does however pass laws to fit their supporters agendas.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Are you seriously advocating for no taxes? Taxes are essential for the continued sustenance of government, without which there would be no government. Without government we can't have society, and therefore we can't enjoy the luxuries functioning society brings. I understand that our gov system isn't perfect, but it works a hell of a lot better then some of the other ones out there.

BTW, the gov spends a vast majority of our taxes on social welfare and military - not on supporters. The gov does however pass laws to fit their supporters agendas.

Do you really think that the American government has any say in the matter???

They do one thing and one thing alone, suppress the majority's access to wealth. They have no say or free will in the matter because the shadow constitution does not allow this, they are controlled by the clandestine families who got ahead centuries ago.

What the Republic of America is, is the illusion of free-will for the immigrant's descendants present here.

Some of these descendants are let in to the family gene-pool due to genetic superiority, to keep the sanctity and worth of the clandestine empire strong.

I've pondered denying the offer, I don't have the capacity. No human of that cloth does.

Originally posted by dadudemon
For some people, the tax breaks and tuition breaks (including grants) are enough. They like to come halfway by working full time.

If you're more than capable of working and going to college, while having children, why take advantage of the system? 🙂 Save that money for someone else.

It seems odd to you but what people like my and Firefly's mothers are doing (or did) is saving the money for those mothers (or fathers) that are in shittier situations. So maybe they have to work a bit harder than most people. If we're honest, that type of attitude is more communist than using the system because it saves the money for comrades that could use it more, haha.

I don't know your or Firefly's mothers' exact situations, what kind of standard of living they were at, and so on, but if they were anywhere close to the poverty line, I don't see any shame in taking advantage of foodstamps--quite the opposite, I'd call it a shame if they refused that assistance out of some misguided principle.

I don't think what you're describing is "communist" at all, because what you're describing is based on individual welfare (albeit others' welfare, rather than your own) rather than collective welfare. If you were thinking like a communist, you'd be thinking "well, how can we make it so that we all get foodstamps?" I'd almost call your outlook on foodstamps a kind of extroverted or vicarious selfishness, or perhaps more accurately, self-sacrifice.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Are you seriously advocating for no taxes? Taxes are essential for the continued sustenance of government, without which there would be no government. Without government we can't have society, and therefore we can't enjoy the luxuries functioning society brings. I understand that our gov system isn't perfect, but it works a hell of a lot better then some of the other ones out there.

BTW, the gov spends a vast majority of our taxes on social welfare and military - not on supporters. The gov does however pass laws to fit their supporters agendas.

Taxes support the rich. However, it's not direct.

I want my taxes to go to my community, not to some fat cat back East. I'm libertarian in that way.

republicans are stupid. politicians are stupid.

Originally posted by IceBreaker2000
republicans are stupid. politicians are stupid.

Originally posted by Firefly218
NO SH¡T

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Taxes support the rich. However, it's not direct.

I want my taxes to go to my community, not to some fat cat back East. I'm libertarian in that way.

What a baffling argument to make. There is not a single person living in this country who doesn't benefit from taxes.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Really? Only the rich use roads, bridges and parks? Police and firefighters will only help you if you make X amount of money per year? What's the semester tuition for public schooling again? Only the rich can apply for welfare?

What a baffling argument to make. There is not a single person living in this country who doesn't benefit from taxes.

How you got that from what I said is even more baffling.

The idea that one political party is pure in heart and as good as angels while the other political party are evil demons, is a fallacy; a lie; a stupid thing to believe.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I want my taxes to go to my community, not to some fat cat back East. I'm libertarian in that way.

Taxes do go to your community, unless you think that your community doesn't directly and vastly benefit from any of the things I mentioned.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Taxes do go to your community, unless you think that your community doesn't directly and vastly benefit from any of the things I mentioned.

I would rather that my money go to my community does not mean that no money goes to my community. How you are drawing these conclusions is beyond me.

Basic English dictates that "I want my money to go toward my community" is an implication that your money is not going toward your community.

If you don't want to use basic english, then by all means, please clarify what you mean when you say that you want your money to help your community.