Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Started by Firefly218260 pages

ROTS was actually enjoyable and relative to its predecessors had lots of bright spots. It still isn't a really great movie and lacks the magic of the originals.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No he won't. Unless you honestly think Kylo Ren is about to become the most Iconic On Screen Villain of all time.

You do realize he's basically made an updated version of the OT Villains right?

Which is cool, but make no mistake, George Lucas is the Real Genius.

I said I will probably like him more. Unlike you I don't speak for others.

Abrams updated Trek villains and he gave me Quan's DEFINITIVE Khan. I trust the man enough to say my expectations are about as big as my pre excitement.

Originally posted by Scribble
RotS is the funniest SW film, if that's what you mean. I think McDiarmid saw how crackpot-nonsense the script was and purposefully tried to derail the film with the worst performance of his career. Or, maybe he just tried his best with Lucas's script and got nowhere and gave in to the world of ham (that's before we get onto Hayden Christiansen, but he speaks for himself, really). I can respect that you like the PT to some degree, but calling RotS the best Star Wars film is ridiculous — the 'best' of the PT, sure, but that's not saying much. One thing I'll give it, RotS is definitely rewatchable. In the same way that Tommy Wiseau's "The Room" is.
Rots is by far my favorite Star Wars film. Rewatchability sets it ahead of all the rest. The first two prequels were the weakest of the films. Rotj is my second favorite Star Wars film. Ian M. Was awesome in the film. Hayden was a nightmare but he had been since part two so I expected it. You may have thought the film was a joke but opinions vary, my stubborn friend.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rots is by far my favorite Star Wars film. Rewatchability sets it ahead of all the rest. The first two prequels were the weakest of the films. Rotj is my second favorite Star Wars film. Ian M. Was awesome in the film. Hayden was a nightmare but he had been since part two so I expected it. You may have thought the film was a joke but opinions vary, my stubborn friend.
It depends what day you get me on, really. Sometimes I'm a lot more sympathetic to RotS. I do agree that it's a lot better than the last two (in a lot of ways I think Ep II is actually the worst out of all of them), even for all of its faults. But even RotJ had Ewoks, so I guess it'd be hypocritical to claim RotS is that much worse than RotJ, as I have pretty much nothing negative to say about RotJ. McDiarmid was great as Palpatine in the prequels up until he finally physically reveals himself as Sidious, imo ("Power, unlimited power! etc.)

Either way, your dedication to it even in the face of its flaws is impressive, I can respect that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said I will probably like him more. Unlike you I don't speak for others.

That's because you've already decided to Bandwagon.

Btw Look at your words I quoted. You said he will DEFINITELY be better. Not probably.

Kylo Ren is NOT a Sith:

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=45203

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Kylo Ren is NOT a Sith:

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=45203

No shit but next time use spoilers. The name Kylo Ren coming from the Knights of Ren should have been a dead giveaway.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That's because you've already decided to Bandwagon.

Btw Look at your words I quoted. You said he will DEFINITELY be better. Not probably.

Faith. Something you know little to nothing about. Let's find out who is right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No shit but next time use spoilers. The name Kylo Ren coming from the Knights of Ren should have been a dead giveaway.

First you say that's obvious, then you say I should use spoilers. Make up your mind Bandwagoner.

Anyway it's clear he won't be no Vader. Just a wannabe 😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Faith. Something you know little to nothing about. Let's find out who is right.

Right about what? That YOU will prefer Ren to Vader? Of course you will. You've made your intention to Bandwagon pretty damn clear already. So there's nothing to be right about. That's just fact.

Why do you guys squabble so much around here? What's the big deal if he likes a fictional character that you don't find quite as cool as the character that he is partially inspired by? Kylo is clearly intended as a cool-looking character, so it's no big surprise that he already has a fanbase. Hardly a 'bandwagon'.

Originally posted by Scribble
Why do you guys squabble so much around here? What's the big deal if he likes a fictional character that you don't find quite as cool as the character that he is partially inspired by? Kylo is clearly intended as a cool-looking character, so it's no big surprise that he already has a fanbase. Hardly a 'bandwagon'.

Trust me he decided long ago that EP7 will be the "best" of all the SW movies. He does that.

Whilst he always talks about what a "crappy" Villain Vader is. And who do you think Ren is based on? Lol

I get a lot of flack from my friends for my opinion that New Hope is my favorite

Originally posted by Quincy
I get a lot of flack from my friends for my opinion that New Hope is my favorite

Well you're friends are silly.

That film changed popular culture and cinema like no other film before (or after) it.

All three ot movies are magical, even if there are some awkward choices.

Originally posted by Firefly218
All six sw movies are magical, even if there are some awkward choices.

Corrected 😛

Originally posted by Darth Thor
First you say that's obvious, then you say I should use spoilers. Make up your mind Bandwagoner.

Anyway it's clear he won't be no Vader. Just a wannabe 😄

Right about what? That YOU will prefer Ren to Vader? Of course you will. You've made your intention to Bandwagon pretty damn clear already. So there's nothing to be right about. That's just fact.

Because other posters might not have figured it out. Use spoiler tags.

He won't be a vade I believe he will be greater but at the same time be mindful about what came before him. Vader was slow and all over the map emotionally.

I win know for sure until I see the film and there is Ren's supreme commander. I won't know until I see the film. Ren definitely has the look and some of my traits.

Originally posted by Scribble
Why do you guys squabble so much around here? What's the big deal if he likes a fictional character that you don't find quite as cool as the character that he is partially inspired by? Kylo is clearly intended as a cool-looking character, so it's no big surprise that he already has a fanbase. Hardly a 'bandwagon'.
They are jealous of what and who I like ? I've said Abrams is a great director and that he'd make Star wars even better considering he attracted to me Star Trek which I hated until his two films. All the while maintaining I'm not some ot lover but they still can't stand it. It's quite amusing to see how annoyed posters can get over my preferences.

I think people just dislike how you say you're the biggest New Star Trek fan "because" you don't like Old Star Trek 😛

Mt favorite Star Wars movie is The Force Awakens.

Originally posted by quanchi112

He won't be a vade I believe he will be greater but at the same time be mindful about what came before him. Vader was slow and all over the map emotionally.

I win know for sure until I see the film and there is Ren's supreme commander. I won't know until I see the film. Ren definitely has the look and some of my traits.

*Knows next to nothing about the character*

*Has never seen a film with Adam Driver*

"Kylo Ren is like me, I just know it!"

How embarrassing.

ps Driver is 6'3", he's nearly a foot taller than you, if you're wearing shoes