Cyborg Superman vs Orion

Started by abhilegend5 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How much weaker does he have to be in order to fail at replicating that feat?

I'm weaker than Arnie, but if the feat is lifting 2kg weights, I can replicate it.


Enough to say he can't punch through Cyborg's body.

Well, you're obv holding back on knowledge I am not privy to.

That Orion isn't as strong as Superman? I thought that was common knowledge. Superman doing something doesn't means Orion can do it.

No, that the stress tolerances of Cyborg Superman's body were beyond Orion's strength levels.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, that the stress tolerances of Cyborg Superman's body were beyond Orion's strength levels.

He has taken Superman's punches just fine before. And Eradicator, Hal, Guardians etc. And he can heal pretty much anything orion can do to him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion isn't strong enough to do that.

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Yes, but Cyborg has his 'S' forcefield.

Lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion isn't strong enough to do that.
He ripped through Darkseid who is a lot more impressive than Cyborg. That strength feat makes this one look quite inferior. Henshaw better not piss Orion off.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, that the stress tolerances of Cyborg Superman's body were beyond Orion's strength levels.
especially considering that superman pierced henshaw's body with what looked like fairly minimal effort. 👆

Pre-Reboot Orion was stronger than Superman, only a no holding back Supes could suprass him. Cyborg Superman vs Orion would go 6-7/10 for Orion because he wouldn't hesitate to kill.

Originally posted by Galan007
especially considering that superman pierced henshaw's body with what looked like fairly minimal effort. 👆
Yeah, it looked really easy for him. Superman also never showed the strength to rip Darkseid's heart out.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Not his usual appearance. There he was matching Darkseid in strength when there are several examples of Darkseid overpowering him or Orion stating he isn't as strong as Darkseid.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Pre-Reboot Orion was stronger than Superman, only a no holding back Supes could suprass him. Cyborg Superman vs Orion would go 6-7/10 for Orion because he wouldn't hesitate to kill.

Orion stronger than Superman? In his dreams perhaps. Look what Doomsday did to him or Brainiac did.

Orion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not his usual appearance. There he was matching Darkseid in strength when there are several examples of Darkseid overpowering him or Orion stating he isn't as strong as Darkseid.

If Orion can rip out Darkseid's heart from his chest, he can surely rip out Cyborg superman's central node.
That is unless Orion was amped there to match Darkseid's strength.

Originally posted by Diesldude
If Orion can rip out Darkseid's heart from his chest, he can surely rip out Cyborg superman's central node.
That is unless Orion was amped there to match Darkseid's strength.

He was amped there, no doubt about it. There are too many instances of Darkseid manhandling Orion or his equal in strength Kalibak. For example.

Or Orion admitting he isn't as strong as Darkseid.

Or Darkseid stating Superman rivals him in strength while Orion gets on that level because of his savagery.

And Superman has knowledge about Cyborg's body structure, Orion doesn't. Its very doubtful he is going after his central node which frankly doesn't makes any sense at all.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not his usual appearance. There he was matching Darkseid in strength when there are several examples of Darkseid overpowering him or Orion stating he isn't as strong as Darkseid.
Orion stronger than Superman? In his dreams perhaps. Look what Doomsday did to him or Brainiac did.

In a way Orion has dynamic strength too. Like Hulk or Thor. So imho he starts out stronger and can match Superman for a long time before Superman reaches the level where few can follow him.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
In a way Orion has dynamic strength too. Like Hulk or Thor. So imho he starts out stronger and can match Superman for a long time before Superman reaches the level where few can follow him.

No, he doesn't. Even Byrne Superman was deemed stronger than Orion/Kalibak. Orion can hang with Superman due to his sheer savagery but he is certainly weaker than Superman. Like here, Brainiac oneshots Orion/Lightray with telekinesis.

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Then he merges with a portion of his power which was used to create a mental creation of Superman's exact double (it was tested to be superman's equal repeatedly and even went toe to toe with superman) to be even more powerful.

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Superman straight up beats the shit out of him and overpowers him.

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Dynamic strength.

👆

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Man, if anyone who reads this fight believes it was meant to show inferiority on Orion's part in comparison to Superman, they have terrible reading comprehension.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Or Darkseid stating Superman rivals him in strength while Orion gets on that level because of his savagery.

It doesn't say that.