Sylar/Peter (Heroes) vs Superman/Thor

Started by NemeBro13 pages

https://www.science.smith.edu/departments/NeuroSci/courses/bio330/pdf/94CurrBiolTovee.pdf

This is the fastest I've ever seen the speed of thought clocked. Let's used the low end: Twenty milliseconds.

In that time, something going the speed of sound could go a little under seven meters.

Multiply that by a hundred and you still wouldn't have Superman's speed. 👆

Originally posted by marwash22
thoughts are ftl
Seriously though, do you actually believe this?

That's physically impossible.

Originally posted by NemeBro
https://www.science.smith.edu/departments/NeuroSci/courses/bio330/pdf/94CurrBiolTovee.pdf

This is the fastest I've ever seen the speed of thought clocked. Let's used the low end: Twenty milliseconds.

In that time, something going the speed of sound could go a little under seven meters.

Multiply that by a hundred and you still wouldn't have Superman's speed. 👆

But can Supes move that fast at the drop of a hat?

His full speed?

Probably not.

Fast enough to clear a distance of ten feet (IIRC the standard starting distance) before they think?

Yes.

Keep in mind that I'm not even saying Superman wins. I know very little about Heroes. I am just debating this specific point because I'm bored. 👆

Well if you did know anything about Heroes you probably would have pointed out by now that none of the characters actually stop time, they just slow it down dramatically. When Hiro runs into someone with superspeed, she can run around at normal pace because of this despite everyone else being statues.

Daphne herself was so fast that people stood still when she moved and she's crossed the world in moments, and when she got her powers boosted, she ran faster than the speed of light and ran through time. She was also temporarily frozen, but she was already in motion and Hiro couldn't fully stop time then. If she's not in motion, she's stuck like everyone else.

Peter however can stop time.

Superman needs to first THINK of an action before doing it. So regardless of how fast he is, he still needs to think first before acting. Peter can stop time as soon as he thinks it. It's instantaneous.

Originally posted by NemeBro
His full speed?

Probably not.

Fast enough to clear a distance of ten feet (IIRC the standard starting distance) before they think?

Yes.

Keep in mind that I'm not even saying Superman wins. I know very little about Heroes. I am just debating this specific point because I'm bored. 👆

The distance isn't 10 ft...much further than that.

There's also the fact that as fast as MoS is, his flight seems to take a while to start. Most of the time he took off, it was at least a few seconds before he was moving. Even when he was fighting Zod.

Also, they can survive a punch from Superman. Also, whats the fastest combat speed Superman shown on panel. Not them flying around, combat speed.

Superman would speed blitz and win. Peter and Sylar would be able to take it if it wasn't for that. I hope nobody forgot about the power peter got from that kid when Hiro got brain cancer. He could give or take life.

It's not in MoS character to speedblitz though. He barely learned how to fly in the movie, and the only person really blitzing was Faora.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Superman would speed blitz and win. Peter and Sylar would be able to take it if it wasn't for that. I hope nobody forgot about the power peter got from that kid when Hiro got brain cancer. He could give or take life.

Who did MOS speed blitz?

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Superman would speed blitz and win.

This is arguable. Not saying it's impossible, but more proof is needed.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Peter and Sylar would be able to take it if it wasn't for that. I hope nobody forgot about the power peter got from that kid when Hiro got brain cancer. He could give or take life.

What? What episode was that? I saw all 5 seasons when they aired on TV and I don't recall that episode.

Originally posted by KingD19
Daphne herself was so fast that people stood still when she moved and she's crossed the world in moments, and when she got her powers boosted, she ran faster than the speed of light and ran through time. She was also temporarily frozen, but she was already in motion and Hiro couldn't fully stop time then. If she's not in motion, she's stuck like everyone else.

Peter however can stop time.

When the **** did all that happen? Was that Ando boosting her?

Either way, without a boost shes not as fast as Superman.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When the **** did all that happen? Was that Ando boosting her?

Either way, without a boost shes not as fast as Superman.

Running through time she was boosted by Ando yeah. But she's moved fast enough on her own that people are pretty much frozen in place while she's doing her thing. She's even stated that seconds/minutes are like hours to her.

And while Supes is fast in flight, it takes time to build up that speed. He doesn't just instantly break the sound barrier. And he certainly doesn't fight that fast.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When the **** did all that happen? Was that Ando boosting her?

Yes. IIRC, Hiro was depowered and Ando, Daphne, and Matt used Ando's power boost to time travel.

Originally posted by Lestov16
This is arguable. Not saying it's impossible, but more proof is needed.

What? What episode was that? I saw all 5 seasons when they aired on TV and I don't recall that episode.

all 5?! Im unaware of a 5th season.

It was in season 4 episode 4 im pretty sure. Hiro is in the hospital for a brain tumor So peter and Mr. Bennet goes to find the kid that can grant life but it turns out that he can also take it. He Killed his parents and pets.

I confuse the seasons and the "chapters". My apologies

I must have missed that episode. Just another power Peter has at his advantage. I am still torn about whether a speedblitz will work.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's not in MoS character to speedblitz though. He barely learned how to fly in the movie, and the only person really blitzing was Faora.

I remember his final fight with ZOD was pretty fast but you raise a good point.