Sylar/Peter (Heroes) vs Superman/Thor

Originally posted by Lestov16
I confuse the seasons and the "chapters". My apologies

I must have missed that episode. Just another power Peter has at his advantage. I am still torn about whether a speedblitz will work.

lol its ok. I was just confused. Thought maybe I missed a season.

If Peter could freeze time then no I doubt it would. As mentioned above when Hiro froze time Daphene was still able to move because of her super speed but it just seemed like she was moving normal. If he got the time freeze off that is and as multiple people have reminded me MOS doesn't start a fight like that.

The fact that Foara was speedblitzing is (arguably) proof that a fellow Kryptonian like Supes can do it too.

*And please, no comments about "in character". That's a silly stipulation which only gimps a character.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
all 5?! Im unaware of a 5th season.

It was in season 4 episode 4 im pretty sure. Hiro is in the hospital for a brain tumor So peter and Mr. Bennet goes to find the kid that can grant life but it turns out that he can also take it. He Killed his parents and pets.

I hate that episode...pretty sad. The kid end up getting killed because people feared him. They tied him to a truck and drove around with him.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
lol its ok. I was just confused. Thought maybe I missed a season.

If Peter could freeze time then no I doubt it would. As mentioned above when Hiro froze time Daphene was still able to move because of her super speed but it just seemed like she was moving normal. If he got the time freeze off first that is but as Mutiple people have reminded me MOS doesn't start a fight like that.

Lol...Superman doesn't move close to her speed though. She was running across continents in no time. There is a different between combat speed and flight speed. At one point, didn't she run through time (with a lil help from hero).

Isn't that the episode where Sullivan sinks an entire police precinct in revenge for the lynching?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Isn't that the episode where Sullivan sinks an entire police precinct in revenge for the lynching?

Yeah, not the police station, he sunk the city.

Peter/Sylar win.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Superman doesn't move close to her speed though. She was running across continents in no time. There is a different between combat speed and flight speed. At one point, didn't she run through time (with a lil help from hero).

Yeah that EP was sad.

Assuming Sups could move that fast, they would both be moving at "normal" speed and superman no longer has any advantage at all.

EDIT: @Lestov: Yeah Im pretty sure that happens right at the end of the episode.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, not the police station, he sunk the city.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
@Lestov: Yeah Im pretty sure that happens right at the end of the episode.

Thanks. I remember now. I only saw IIRC the last 10 minutes of that episode. That's why I was unaware of the details.

Back to the debate, as I stated before, if Faora can speedblitz, Superman should be able to as well. The outcome depends on if Peter can stop time before Supes can reach him, and an argument can be made for either side. Like I said, I am torn here.

Keep in mind that Faora is a highly trained soldier, and she and Zod and Na-Mek developed their powers much faster and more efficiently than Clark. She blitzed him and had him on the ropes.

Also, when she blitzed those soldiers, they had time to react, just there was nothing they could do.

But Peter can easily stop time without even much effort.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman needs to first THINK of an action before doing it. So regardless of how fast he is, he still needs to think first before acting. Peter can stop time as soon as he thinks it. It's instantaneous.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Who did MOS speed blitz?

Well that sure was hard.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Superman doesn't move close to her speed though. She was running across continents in no time. There is a different between combat speed and flight speed. At one point, didn't she run through time (with a lil help from hero).

He circled near halfway across the globe in a few seconds.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You mean like how Superman did the first time he began flying?

He circled near halfway across the globe in a few seconds.

What part are you talking about and that's flight speed.

This is the stupidest thread in existence.

Time Stop wins, Superman gets his power from the Sun. And thats life.

Originally posted by carver9
What part are you talking about

The part where Superman flies thousands of miles in a few seconds.

and that's flight speed.

And running speed isn't travel speed hurrrrr

Not that it matters simpleton.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The part where Superman flies thousands of miles in a few seconds.

And running speed isn't travel speed hurrrrr

Not that it matters simpleton.

And what part is that?

Running speed is a movement of limbs...flight is flight.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You are aware that Superman's several hundred mach speed also comes with superhuman speed of thought and perception, right?

Uhuh, sure dude. Give me proof of him having super fast thought process and I'll believe it. Until then, there's still a pause between him thinking and actually moving. His super speed is not instantaneous, unlike Peter's time stop.

The term speed bltiz is generally used to describe someone throwing attacks ie punches/kicks at above human level speed...I don't recall MOS Superman ever doing so.