Originally posted by Silent Master
Tom had an entire castle to choose from and it's already been shown that Dumbly has no way of detecting a possession.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Tom also feared Dumbledore back then, and doing Quirrell had been risk enough for him. Not to mention that he'd just been forced to bear Harry's magical burning hands.
Quirrell was the one that was burned and again, Dumbly had no way to detect a possession, so why didn't Tom possess someone else?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Quirrell was the one that was burned and again, Dumbly had no way to detect a possession, so why didn't Tom possess someone else?
Anyways, reported for trolling.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Quirrell died from said burning. Voldemort feared Dumbledore back then and couldn't risk getting exposed again, not when Harry was Dumbledore' own living, breathing Voldemort-detector.Anyways, reported for trolling.
As Dumbly had no way to detect possession, there was no danger in possessing someone else…plus he wasn’t really possessing Quirrel, he was more riding piggy back and was basically powerless.
Disagreeing with someone isn't the same thing as trolling, the only people Tommy boy has managed to even partially posses were either in contact with a horcrux(Ginny and Harry) or happened off-screen(Quirrel) and with Quirrel we don't know how long it took, plus Tom was just piggy backing and was basically powerless.
So there is nothing to suggest that he can actually take control of any of the people in this thread.
It's almost like a rock, paper, scissors game.
Khan can beat Voldemort if he can get a shot in. Maybe not kill Voldemort but at least KO him. But Khan can't really beat anyone else. The Terminators are too tough and Spidey and Cullen are too fast.
The T1000 can beat Khan, Spidey, and Voldemort... only if he can get close enough to tag them. Khan shouldn't be a problem, but Spidey can be hard to catch. The T1000 may KO and seriously hurt Voldemort, but Voldemort also has the arsenal to take out T1000. The T1000 can't really do anything to Edward, but at the same time Edward doesn't have much things he can do to the T1000 other than BFR or maybe dragging him to a volcano. The TX however beats the T1000.
Now the TX can beat Khan, the T1000, and Voldemort.... assuming ofcourse that she can hit Voldemort before he unleashes a spell on her. She might be able to beat Cullen if her flame thrower is hot enough to burn him (IIRC you have to tear open twivamps before you can burn them), but she'll have to catch him first, and Cullen may be strong enough to tear her apart (maybe). Spidey is also hard to catch, but she should be able to beat him as well.
Spidey can get killed by anyone in this list, but most aren't fast enough to catch him other than Cullen. I do know he's not defeating Cullen and the Terminators.
Cullen is the strongest and fastest character here, and can beat Khan, Spidey, and Voldemort. Problem is he doesn't have the tools to take out the terminators, though to be fair they also don't have the tools to take him out. Voldemort can take out Cullen, and maybe even TX's and Khan's gun can do some damage. Question is can they hit him?
Then there's Voldemort, who can get KO'd by anyone on this list. He's also the only one who has enough firepower and various powers to take out anyone on the list.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Disagreeing with someone isn't the same thing as trolling, the only people Tommy boy has managed to even partially posses were either in contact with a horcrux(Ginny and Harry) or happened off-screen(Quirrel) and with Quirrel we don't know how long it took, plus Tom was just piggy backing and was basically powerless.So there is nothing to suggest that he can actually take control of any of the people in this thread.
You parroting the same response about Dumbledore over and over again despite being presented with evidence opposing it is the very definition of trolling, Troll.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Yes it is. Lol, those were fragments of his soul, not his core essence. He was controlling Quirrell and boosting his power. He also took over Harry's body in Order of Phoenix.You parroting the same response about Dumbledore over and over again despite being presented with evidence opposing it is the very definition of trolling, Troll.
Again, Harry and Ginny were in contact with a horcrux when Tom tried to control them and he wasn't able to fully control either...hell Ginny resisted for most of the year and even threw the horcrux away at one point...as for Quirrel we don't know how long it took and even then Tom wasn't directly controlling him...or else he wouldn't have had to tell Quirrel to ask Harry about the stone or to let him speak with Harry at the end.
IOW, you have zero proof that Tom can take control of anybody in this thread during a fight.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Harry and Ginny were in contact with a horcrux when Tom tried to control them and he wasn't able to fully control either...hell Ginny resisted for most of the year and even threw the horcrux away at one point...as for Quirrel we don't know how long it took and even then Tom wasn't directly controlling him...or else he wouldn't have had to tell Quirrel to ask Harry about the stone or to let him speak with Harry at the end.IOW, you have zero proof that Tom can take control of anybody in this thread during a fight.
I already pointed out how he took over Harry's body in OoP. You denying it like the crappy troll that you are is on you, not me.
Originally posted by Epicurus
You are an idiot along with being a troll. Tom controlled/influenced her actions right from the beginning of the the term till the very end, for months on end. He never took control of Harry though, since he didn't need to.I already pointed out how he took over Harry's body in OoP. You denying it like the crappy troll that you are is on you, not me.
If Tom was in full control of her, why did she throw the horcrux away? and he didn't take full control over Harry's body as Harry was fighting him and was able to kick him out...so again you have zero proof that he'll be able to take control of anybody during this fight.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If Tom was in full control of her, why did she throw the horcrux away? and he didn't take full control over Harry's body as Harry was fighting him and was able to kick him out...so again you have zero proof that he'll be able to take control of anybody during this fight.
Yet she was able to throw it away, which means that Tom's control wasn't complete and he'd had several months to take her over, he's not going to have that much time in a fight, nor is anyone in this fight in posession of a horcrux. as for Harry, Harry was also in contact with a horcrux.
Face it, as none of the people involved in this fight are in contact with a horcrux, you can't prove that Tommy boy can even try and take control of them.
She went to reacquire it, which proves my point. Not to mention a big fat lol at you equating what his horcruxes can do with what he can do. Because it's not like possession is one of the few powers he retains upon dying, is it?
Horcruxes needing to be in contact for Voldy himself to possess his victims. LOL indeed at the troll known as Silent Master.
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's almost like a rock, paper, scissors game.Khan can beat Voldemort if he can get a shot in. Maybe not kill Voldemort but at least KO him. But Khan can't really beat anyone else. The Terminators are too tough and Spidey and Cullen are too fast.
The T1000 can beat Khan, Spidey, and Voldemort... only if he can get close enough to tag them. Khan shouldn't be a problem, but Spidey can be hard to catch. The T1000 may KO and seriously hurt Voldemort, but Voldemort also has the arsenal to take out T1000. The T1000 can't really do anything to Edward, but at the same time Edward doesn't have much things he can do to the T1000 other than BFR or maybe dragging him to a volcano. The TX however beats the T1000.
Now the TX can beat Khan, the T1000, and Voldemort.... assuming ofcourse that she can hit Voldemort before he unleashes a spell on her. She might be able to beat Cullen if her flame thrower is hot enough to burn him (IIRC you have to tear open twivamps before you can burn them), but she'll have to catch him first, and Cullen may be strong enough to tear her apart (maybe). Spidey is also hard to catch, but she should be able to beat him as well.
Spidey can get killed by anyone in this list, but most aren't fast enough to catch him other than Cullen. I do know he's not defeating Cullen and the Terminators.
Cullen is the strongest and fastest character here, and can beat Khan, Spidey, and Voldemort. Problem is he doesn't have the tools to take out the terminators, though to be fair they also don't have the tools to take him out. Voldemort can take out Cullen, and maybe even TX's and Khan's gun can do some damage. Question is can they hit him?
Then there's Voldemort, who can get KO'd by anyone on this list. He's also the only one who has enough firepower and various powers to take out anyone on the list.
I agree with this post.
As for the possession angle, #1: Quirrel allowed it to happen. #2: If done on an unwilling subject, they have to be quite weak, and 1st year Ginny was no master witch. if that were the case, then Lucious would have made a better target, the guy pretty much had run of the school through the Ministry. #3: it certainly isn't instantaneous.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
As for the possession angle, #1: Quirrel allowed it to happen. #2: If done on an unwilling subject, they have to be quite weak, and 1st year Ginny was no master witch. if that were the case, then Lucious would have made a better target, the guy pretty much had run of the school through the Ministry. #3: it certainly isn't instantaneous.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If your point was that even after several months he wasn't in complete control of an 11 year-old girl then yes...you proved your point.The only people that Tommy boy was able to partially possess were in possession of a horcrux at the time.
Complete and utter lie. He possessed Harry in OOP. He possessed Quirrell in Sorcerer's stone. Neither of whom had a horcrux in their hands at the time.