Darkseid vs Zeus · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Igniz
Post a scan of Thor's and Odin's argument shaking the world.I must have missed that part.Didn't you read the part were Zeus and Odin was shaking with rage?And that their rage shook the world likewise.Even Mephisto didn't want to be there.This was only an argument were cooler heads didn't prevail.Dormammu in his rage almost destroyed the Dark Dimension.
And Dormammu is also a peer to both Zeus and Odin BTW.

You took that flowery dialogue seriously? SMH.

Anyway Dormammu's feats don't apply to Zeus just because he is called a peer. Darkseid has created entire universes, a random new god has created universes if you're trying to play that kind of feats.

Originally posted by Epicurus
No it doesn't.
The one where She-Hulk is able to restrain one of his arms.
Much, much previous to the encounter with the Hulk.
And if we're going on about referring Mikaboshi, let's not conveniently forget that a Mikaboshi-possessed Zeus laid Galactus on his ass utilizing what was, per Pak himself, mostly his own power.

Of course it does.

So? Shulkie restrained Thor for a few moments a few issues later. Its not inconceivable that she can restrain one of his arms.

Referenced in IH 622 and Zeus got no upgrades in between.

Pak has said many things in interviews, including the famous "only Galactus can beat WWH" bit. What actually happened was that Zeus' body was possessed by CK and it wasn't Zeus at all.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

@Abhi
If those Zeus showings are in context, it's not looking good for him.

His only hope is if that Odin/Zeus throwdown in Fear Itself really is a fight, like I've been saying, and not just some metaphysical representation of them arguing (like other posters have been saying).

Just damn.

Igniz I reign supreme!

Originally posted by abhilegend
You took that flowery dialogue seriously? SMH.

Why not?Odin planning to burn the earth is actually bad for Zeus since Olympus is on earth.Zeus had the right to argue against Odin's plan.I think New Olympus was in new york harbor at the time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway Dormammu's feats don't apply to Zeus just because he is called a peer. Darkseid has created entire universes, a random new god has created universes if you're trying to play that kind of feats.

Darkseid's and the New Gods feats of creating universes are shit if they can't do it in fights.I create universes too you know.And I do it while fighting 😠

But I wouldn't say I can beat the like of Zeus or Odin since my rage can't destroy the world 😈

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course it does.
So? Shulkie restrained Thor for a few moments a few issues later. Its not inconceivable that she can restrain one of his arms.
Referenced in IH 622 and Zeus got no upgrades in between.
Pak has said many things in interviews, including the famous "only Galactus can beat WWH" bit. What actually happened was that Zeus' body was possessed by CK and it wasn't Zeus at all.

It really doesn't.

Considering the massive power gap between a herald level character like Thor, and a meta level character like She-Hulk(barring those 4th wall shenanigans), that's essentially a PIS feat. Which, per forum rules, doesn't count. Though issue #s for said feat, just to make sure you're not forgetting some important bit of context would be nice.

Which still makes it a much previous feat.

Pak's hyperbolic commentary is wholly different from him actually extrapolating upon a feat written in a comic by himself. His cbr interview is no different from Hickman clarifying that Adult Franklin Richards didn't die in the battle against the Mad Celestials on formspring.

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid has created entire universes, a random new god has created universes if you're trying to play that kind of feats.

Unquantifiable hyperbole on Mr Miracle's part doesn't count as them creating universes. If you want, we can get a mod ruling on whether New Gods on average operate at universal levels or not. Though the premise itself is fairly ridiculous to speak of.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Igniz
Why not?Odin planning to burn the earth is actually bad for Zeus since Olympus is on earth.Zeus had the right to argue against Odin's plan.I think New Olympus was in new york harbor at the time.
Darkseid's and the New Gods feats of creating universes are shit if they can't do it in fights.I create universes too you know.And I do it while fighting 😠
But I wouldn't say I can beat the like of Zeus or Odin since my rage can't destroy the world 😈

Why? Because its just that. They were in a different dimension which was created by LT himself.

You are seriously using yourself as an argument? GTFO.

Originally posted by Epicurus
It really doesn't.
Considering the massive power gap between a herald level character like Thor, and a meta level character like She-Hulk(barring those 4th wall shenanigans), that's essentially a PIS feat. Which, per forum rules, doesn't count. Though issue #s for said feat, just to make sure you're not forgetting some important bit of context would be nice.
Which still makes it a much previous feat.
Pak's hyperbolic commentary is wholly different from him actually extrapolating upon a feat written in a comic by himself. His cbr interview is no different from Hickman clarifying that Adult Franklin Richards didn't die in the battle against the Mad Celestials on formspring.

You could say that a hundred times and it wouldn't matter.

PIS? Hahaha. Shulkie beat the shit out of him too. Now all that is PIS too?

And? Did he get a upgrade?

You're mistaking Pak's interviews as a canon fact. Zeus was never there.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Unquantifiable hyperbole on Mr Miracle's part doesn't count as them creating universes. If you want, we can get a mod ruling on whether New Gods on average operate at universal levels or not. Though the premise itself is fairly ridiculous to speak of.

Hahaha. Now you're accusing Mr. Miracle's words seeing an action as hyperbole but accepting Pak's words in an interview as gospel?

😂

How about this where Darkseid create multiple realities.

Or here as Darkseid gives 1/5th of powerto destroy a universe.

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_171.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_172.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_173.jpg
4. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_174.jpg
5. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_175.jpg
6. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_176.jpg

Or just removing Darkseid from timeline destroys the whole universe.

1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-01.jpg
2. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-02.jpg
3. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-03.jpg
4. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-09.jpg
5. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-12.jpg

How many of those feats are PIS?

Epicurus True Killer

Originally posted by abhilegend
You could say that a hundred times and it wouldn't matter.
PIS? Hahaha. Shulkie beat the shit out of him too. Now all that is PIS too?
And? Did he get a upgrade?
You're mistaking Pak's interviews as a canon fact. Zeus was never there.

Incorrect.

PIS feats are not allowed per forum rules. Please try and adhere to them for a change.

More recent showing overrides Hulk's supposed superiority over him.

That is blatantly false, considering that we see Zeus being used as a meatsuit to perform said feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hahaha. Now you're accusing Mr. Miracle's words seeing an action as hyperbole but accepting Pak's words in an interview as gospel?
😂
How about this where Darkseid create multiple realities.
1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle03_13.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle03_14.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle03_15.jpg
4. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle03_16.jpg
5. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle03_17.jpg
6. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_12.jpg
7. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_13.jpg
8. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_14.jpg
9. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_15.jpg
10. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_16.jpg
11. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/SevenSoldiers_MisterMiracle04_17.jpg
Or here as Darkseid gives 1/5th of powerto destroy a universe.
1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_171.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_172.jpg
3. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_173.jpg
4. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_174.jpg
5. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_175.jpg
6. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Cosmic_Odyssey_TPB_176.jpg
Or just removing Darkseid from timeline destroys the whole universe.
1. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-01.jpg
2. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-02.jpg
3. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-03.jpg
4. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-09.jpg
5. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-12.jpg
How many of those feats are PIS?

Omega Sanction. The context of which has been pointed out to you before.

Lol, so him having a connection to the might of the Anti-Life entity is him providing his own personal power for the destruction of that dimension? Not to mention that High-Father/Orion acting as similar conduits to the power of the SOurce and Etrigan tapping into primal forces normally beyond the scope of Dr Fate's abilities is a detail not worth leaving out when presenting such grandiose, yet make-believe feats.

I am not even going to bother with that last showing, since temporal alterations now count as legit universal feats. Everyday Cyclops/Scott Summers is universal going by this logic. Part of established canon.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Epicurus
Incorrect.

nope.
PIS feats are not allowed per forum rules. Please try and adhere to them for a change.
And who said they are PIS? Shulkie has affected Thor several times.
More recent showing overrides Hulk's supposed superiority over him.
And the spear's superiority?
That is blatantly false, considering that we see Zeus being used as a meatsuit to perform said feat.
Doesn't mean it was his power.
Omega Sanction. The context of which has been pointed out to you before.
Omega sanction IS a power of Darkseid. Its like saying MJOLNIR.
Lol, so him having a connection to the might of the Anti-Life entity is him providing his own personal power for the destruction of that dimension?
Yes. It was outright stated.
Not to mention that High-Father/Orion acting as similar conduits to the power of the SOurce and Etrigan tapping into primal forces normally beyond the scope of Dr Fate's abilities is a detail not worth leaving out when presenting such grandiose, yet make-believe feats.
😂
Heh, your lowballing is cute.

I am not even going to bother with that last showing, since temporal alterations now count as legit universal feats. Everyday Cyclops/Scott Summers is universal going by this logic. Part of established canon.

One day you will learn the difference between a decision making another future reality never coming into fruition and between an already existing universe being destroyed by someone. One day perhaps.

jaxthejester Visit The Halls of Hulk!

Zeus FTW.

Darkseid is, IMHO, roughly on par with Thanos. Zeus is roughly on par with Odin.

Insane Titan Senior Member

Who would of thought it Abhi lowballing , don't know why ppl bother with him he's h1 lvl

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by jaxthejester
Zeus FTW.
Darkseid is, IMHO, roughly on par with Thanos. Zeus is roughly on par with Odin.

I wouldn't consider Darkseid Thanos level. Honestly think he is below by some notches.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Who would of thought it Abhi lowballing , don't know why ppl bother with him he's h1 lvl

Or people highballing Zeus by a single feat out of his fifty year history?

Never change nihilist.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Man you guys can be immature as phuck

Insane Titan Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or people highballing Zeus by a single feat out of his fifty year history?
Never change nihilist.

I don't care what others are doing in this thread, you do this routine in every thread any cry about others doing it.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Insane Titan
I don't care what others are doing in this thread, you do this routine in every thread any cry about others doing it.

Of course you do. But I'd rather not indulge in your pissing contests.

guy222 With my gal

Stay on topic all so the thread doesn't get closed

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by guy222
Stay on topic all so the thread doesn't get closed

👆 just tell them to grow up no point being nice

Insane Titan Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course you do. But I'd rather not indulge in your pissing contests.

no pissing contest at all, just the simple facts that you lowball in every thread

-K-M- ...........

Yeah I don't see why people are getting upset that abhilegend is lowballing and then a second later they lowball Darkseid themselves.

Insane Titan Senior Member

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah I don't see why people are getting upset that abhilegend is lowballing and then a second later they lowball Darkseid themselves.

show me where I've lowballed Darkseid