Most people reference Blood Oath for Herc's equality or superiority to Thor in strength and skill, but the fact is that was simply a convenient plot device to display Thor controlling the weather sans Mjolnir. In fact, Herc has tried the exact same maneuver, and Thor just straight up out muscled him.
No pis, Thor wins a very comfortable majority.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Most people reference Blood Oath for Herc's equality or superiority to Thor in strength and skill, but the fact is that was simply a convenient plot device to display Thor controlling the weather sans Mjolnir. In fact, Herc has tried the exact same maneuver, and Thor just straight up out muscled him.No pis, Thor wins a very comfortable majority.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor's gotten the upperhand on Hercules in hth before anyway also. I think its a split.
Anyway its a split or a slight majority for Herc.
I'm on my phone right now so I can't provide scans, but there was an instance where Hercules attempted almost the exact same thing as in blood oath, and Thor just completely overpowers Hercules. I've seen a lot of their fights, and most are stalemates, but I've never seen Herc do anything like that to Thor.
Originally posted by Damborgson
In fact they stalemated in armwrestling in the very next issue.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules15Thor222.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules16.jpg
Herc overpowered Ares Controlled Masterson Thor far more convincingly and recovered earlier than him.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304667/Avengers349_14a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304668/Avengers349_14b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304669/Avengers349_15b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304670/Avengers349_16b.jpg.html
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I'm on my phone right now so I can't provide scans, but there was an instance where Hercules attempted almost the exact same thing as in blood oath, and Thor just completely overpowers Hercules. I've seen a lot of their fights, and most are stalemates, but I've never seen Herc do anything like that to Thor.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In first he just flipped Herc, that's not overpowering.In fact they stalemated in armwrestling in the very next issue.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules15Thor222.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules16.jpg
Herc overpowered Ares Controlled Masterson Thor far more convincingly and recovered earlier than him.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304667/Avengers349_14a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304668/Avengers349_14b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304669/Avengers349_15b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304670/Avengers349_16b.jpg.html
The earlier recovery probably has something to do with the fact that Eric was possessed by Ares. 😐
And not sure how he over-powered him as Ares was literally goading Hercules to kill him when he got tackled. I'm sure you're not referring to the hammer stamp. Arguing that it takes superior strength to force his arm down slightly when Hercules is literally on top of him would be idiotic.
Just like Masterson isn't a lot stronger then Hercules because he forced his arm back up.
Not sure why Masterson is even relevant in a thread with Thor though. Much less a mind-controlled Masterson who wanted Hercules to kill him.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Most people reference Blood Oath for Herc's equality or superiority to Thor in strength and skill, but the fact is that was simply a convenient plot device to display Thor controlling the weather sans Mjolnir. In fact, Herc has tried the exact same maneuver, and Thor just straight up out muscled him.No pis, Thor wins a very comfortable majority.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The earlier recovery probably has something to do with the fact that Eric was possessed by Ares. 😐And not sure how he over-powered him as Ares was literally goading Hercules to kill him when he got tackled. I'm sure you're not referring to the hammer stamp. Arguing that it takes superior strength to force his arm down slightly when Hercules is literally on top of him would be idiotic.
Just like Masterson isn't a lot stronger then Hercules because he forced his arm back up.
Not sure why Masterson is even relevant in a thread with Thor though. Much less a mind-controlled Masterson who wanted Hercules to kill him.
Also yes, Herc tackled Masterson and forced his arm down while he was resisting.
When did he force Herc's arm back?
Because Masterson was as strong as Thor?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Masterson was not more injured then Ares or Hercules. He simply took longer to recover. Which is pretty easily explained by him being the victim of mind control. Ares wasn't even hit by the lightning but was still woozy after being shocked free from his mind.
Hercules tackled Masterson what looked like from the side and while he was goading for him to commit murder. He literally wanted Hercules to kill him. Context. Forcing his arm down from that position does not even require equal strength, much less superior. Here:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304668/Avengers349_14b.jpg.html
Hercules forced it back down, but forcing it up would require noticeably greater strength from their respective positions. That is of course if you subscribe to the idea that a few inches of back and forth hand movement requires superiority. They are equal, not identical clones.
Masterson wasn't quite as strong as Thor. Or at the very least, did not know how to access his strength properly. Heck in this very comic we're discussing, Ares was only able to possess Masterson because he wasn't a true immortal like Thor and was vulnerable.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In first he just flipped Herc, that's not overpowering.In fact they stalemated in armwrestling in the very next issue.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules15Thor222.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules16.jpg
Herc overpowered Ares Controlled Masterson Thor far more convincingly and recovered earlier than him.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304667/Avengers349_14a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304668/Avengers349_14b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304669/Avengers349_15b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304670/Avengers349_16b.jpg.html
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Masterson was not more injured then Ares or Hercules. He simply took longer to recover. Which is pretty easily explained by him being the victim of mind control. Ares wasn't even hit by the lightning but was still woozy after being shocked free from his mind.Hercules tackled Masterson what looked like from the side and while he was goading for him to commit murder. He literally wanted Hercules to kill him. Context. Forcing his arm down from that position does not even require equal strength, much less superior. Here:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304668/Avengers349_14b.jpg.htmlHercules forced it back down, but forcing it up would require noticeably greater strength from their respective positions. That is of course if you subscribe to the idea that a few inches of back and forth hand movement requires superiority. They are equal, not identical clones.
Masterson wasn't quite as strong as Thor. Or at the very least, did not know how to access his strength properly. Heck in this very comic we're discussing, Ares was only able to possess Masterson because he wasn't a true immortal like Thor and was vulnerable.
Herc tackled masteron by his arms, not by his sides.
He downed Masterson's arm twice in two pages, not sure why that isn't overpowering.
Masterson held his own quite well against Thor in a strength contest and he was given the power of Thor and had his body. Why wasn't he as strong as Thor?
