Rematch... Thor vs Immortal Hercules fist fight · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Among many things.
Ha, you can read?

Yes I can.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Same as half power Thor struggling with a tractor. Silver age goofiness. Herc wasn't at his best as Thor notes.

That's a faulty analogy.

We're discussing relative power and you want to discuss how much Thor can bench or whatever. The former is crucial here, the second is irrelevant.

Not to mention Thor's strength was literally cut in HALF. Here, Hercules is slightly weary. There's a difference between moving down an entire tier or two and not being a 100%.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Herc was never down as he himself says and he was fighting as Sif says to Thor off panel.

What are you talking about? After Armak punches Hercules once, he's knocked down. Even on the TV, we see him lying down and it says he was defeated.

Hercules is JUST getting back up as Thor is flying back. What Krista said doesn't mean Hercules got back up and started trading shots again off-panel or something.

Maybe he wasn't completely unconscious (Even assuming we should take Hercules for his word as that might simply be pride talking) but as far as the fight went, he had lost.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is it? Armak was overpowering Thor as well. So full power Thor would struggle with two tractors? Why not? If Thor hadn't been at 100% I'd give him same treatment.
And here Herc looked better than Thor.
It is?

Armak getting the momentary advantage and choking Thor is a far cry from no selling his punch and taking the fight out of him with a single hit.

Not really as restraining is far from indicative of relative strength. You yourself have posted scans of Alan Scott restraining Superman for example.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its the only fight where a result was made, Herc would choke out Thor in h2h. Thor has no such showings against Herc in h2h so the edge would go to Herc. Its like saying Let the battle begin doesn't matter since its a past story and Thor has stalemated Hulk after that.
🙂

What? So it's the only recent fight that counts, even though they stalemated (Technically Thor actually won as Hercules was down and at his mercy) recently under Pak of all people? Stalemates are noted as well.

Again, it's chronologically their second fight. Thor got better at hand to hand or Hercules got worse. Either way, he, canonically, no longer has the skill edge. I know how you look to fuss about little details like that.

Also, you just said since Hercules beat Thor once, he beats him always, despite saying the exact opposite in the Superman/Wonder Woman thread just now. 😬

Again, stop trying to illicit a response from me. It's petty and you're not very good at it.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

If you think I'm saying Herc wins 6-7/10, you'd be wrong. I deem them as equal and based on Blood Oath and dozen stalemates, it'd be like 5.01/10 in herc's favor. If even that makes you feel sour, I can't help with that.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
If you think I'm saying Herc wins 6-7/10, you'd be wrong. I deem them as equal and based on Blood Oath and dozen stalemates, it'd be like 5.01/10 in herc's favor. If even that makes you feel sour, I can't help with that.

Yes, it does and you can. Just make it clear Thor wins 6/10.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, it does and you can. Just make it clear Thor wins 6/10.

Nope. Herc wins. Come back to me when Thor does this to Herc.

I know it chafes your ass but its the reality buddy. Thor loses here barely, no shame in it. Herc is equal to Thor in everything that matters and he's bulletproof to the eyes.

mmm

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Old news. Thor beat Hercules in their most recent fight:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules39IncredibleHercules1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules40.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules41.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules42.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules43.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules44.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules45.jpg

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Don't tell me you took that seriously.

facepalm

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't tell me you took that seriously.
facepalm

Why shouldn't I? Hercules concession was a show but Thor had him at a clear disadvantage.

Again, usually I'm more lenient, but you posted the Hulk/Thing arm wrestle as evidence of Nuclear explosion tanking (Even though it wasn't even close). If you want to hold people to higher standards, you need to do the same. 🙂

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why shouldn't I? Hercules concession was a show but Thor had him at a clear disadvantage.
Again, usually I'm more lenient, but you posted the Hulk/Thing arm wrestle as evidence of Nuclear explosion tanking (Even though it wasn't even close). If you want to hold people to higher standards, you need to do the same. 🙂

It was all an act bro. Have you seen like any wrestling show?

Heh, why wouldn't I use that to show Hulk/Thing taking a nuke? It was specifically stated to be a nuke, wasn't it?

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was all an act bro. Have you seen like any wrestling show?
Heh, why wouldn't I use that to show Hulk/Thing taking a nuke? It was specifically stated to be a nuke, wasn't it?

Yes, the surrender and concession was an act, Hercules could have probably kept fighting but the fight wasn't an act. It's not comparable to wrestling you simpleton.

Hercules WAS hit in the balls, and it DID take the fight out of him. He WAS at Thor's mercy.

Where was that said? And it was clearly a joke setting as not even top tiers can take Nukes under PAD, much less the Thing, and yet you posted it anyways. It was far less relevant than the Pak Hercules/Thor fight so you have no business trying to dismiss something because you think it had humor in it.

Mindset Senior Member

Lmao at Rage.

facepalm

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, the surrender and concession was an act, Hercules could have probably kept fighting but the fight wasn't an act. How could you possibly compare it to wrestling?

Because it was done to impress Elf Queen.
Hercules WAS hit in the balls, and it DID take the fight out of him. He WAS at Thor's mercy.
So you think a serious Thor would kick Herc in balls to win here? Shame on you rage, not even Fraction Thor would do that.
Where was that said?
In the comic.
And it was clearly a joke setting as not even top tiers can take Nukes under PAD, much less the Thing, and yet you posted it anyways.
Who said it was a joke setting?

It was far less relevant than the Pak Hercules/Thor fight so you have no business trying to dismiss something because you think it had humor in it.

What is this even doing in this thread then? Except that you have a weird sense of obsession with mixing different arguments with no relevance whatsoever.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Mindset
Lmao at Rage.
facepalm

I know right. Just imagining Herc winning against Thor is unfathomable in his mind.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it was done to impress Elf Queen.
So you think a serious Thor would kick Herc in balls to win here? Shame on you rage, not even Fraction Thor would do that.
In the comic. Who said it was a joke setting? What is this even doing in this thread then? Except that you have a weird sense of obsession with mixing different arguments with no relevance whatsoever.

What was done to impress the Elf-Queen? The surrender was to prevent the war.

So it's not admissible because Thor kicked Hercules in the balls? Where in the rule book was that specified?

If you do not understand why this was a joke setting:

Then I cannot help you.

My point was that you tried to dismiss this showing due to their being humor.

I realize that the comic was not serious, that it involved a lot of humor and I wouldn't consider it very relevant (Unless someone said Hercules would be playing dirty and Thor could not or something) but you're in no position to dismiss it based on similar arguments.

Basically, they fought and Thor got the advantage by using Hercules' own dirty tricks. Tell me why this is not admissible? I'm not saying Thor BEAT Hercules, I'm saying he got the advantage. Don't get mad that I'm using the same stupid standards for you that you apply to others.

Not to mention this isn't the first time Thor has had the advantage over Hercules:

Originally posted by Damborgson

Giving Hercules the win over Blood Oath because he had the temporary advantage is faulty.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What was done to impress the Elf-Queen? The surrender was to prevent the war.

And it was an act which Hercules said lateron.
So it's not admissible because Thor kicked Hercules in the balls? Where in the rule book was that specified?
Rematch... Thor vs Immortal Hercules fist fight
English, do you read it motha****a!
If you do not understand why this was a joke setting:
It showed furniture undamaged, so its not a nuke? Why don't you post the previous page where Mentallo outright states its a nuke?
Then I cannot help you.
😂
My point was that you tried to dismiss this showing due to their being humor.
I didn't. I dismissed it because it was an act.
I realize that the comic was not serious, that it involved a lot of humor and I wouldn't consider it very relevant (Unless someone said Hercules would be playing dirty and Thor could not or something) but you're in no position to dismiss it based on similar arguments.
facepalm
Take some deep breaths and calm down man.

Basically, they fought and Thor got the advantage by using Hercules' own dirty tricks. Tell me why this is not admissible? I'm not saying Thor BEAT Hercules, I'm saying he got the advantage. Don't get mad that I'm using the same stupid standards for you that you apply to others.

Herc actually got game changing advantage via Thor's own admission in Blood Oath as per the rules of the fight here. Not hard to understand. Unless you are a thorbag of course.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

re: the above bunch of pages? pretty much why i stay out of this. ftr i agree with abhi's /10 number. the barest advantage to herc.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
And it was an act which Hercules said lateron.

What was an act? Post a scan of what you're talking about.

We see them hurt and recovering right after:

Malekith attacks because they pummeled each other so brutally.

The defeat and surrender to "Hercules" was an act to prevent the war. The fight was real.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Rematch... Thor vs Immortal Hercules fist fight
English, do you read it motha****a!

😐

Then why the hell are you referencing Blood Oath if you think they're going to just stand there and punch each other in the face?

Hercules got the momentary advantage using a HEAD LOCK or whatever.

You aren't even making any sense here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It showed furniture undamaged, so its not a nuke? Why don't you post the previous page where Mentallo outright states its a nuke?
😂

I don't have the previous page obviously, that's why I googled for that image.

It's not a serious comic not because furniture survived a NUCLEAR explosion but because the Thing, Hulk, and all the villains (Including Mole Man) apparently survived. Under a writer who considers them fatal to Top Tiers in pretty much every other iteration.

But that's beside the point. You consider it valid so you have no grounds to dismiss something because of humor. As long as that's clear.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I didn't. I dismissed it because it was an act.
facepalm
Take some deep breaths and calm down man.
Herc actually got game changing advantage via Thor's own admission in Blood Oath as per the rules of the fight here. Not hard to understand. Unless you are a thorbag of course.

What was an act?

Hercules was winning in Blood Oath via head lock. Thor was winning under Pak via a nut shot.

Originally posted by leonidas
re: the above bunch of pages? pretty much why i stay out of this. ftr i agree with abhi's /10 number. the barest advantage to herc.

Do you agree that Hercules would get the edge or do you agree with his arguments? Curious.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]What was an act? Post a scan of what you're talking about.
We see them hurt and recovering right after:
Malekith attacks because they pummeled each other so brutally.
The defeat and surrender to "Hercules" was an act to prevent the war. The fight was real.

Not what he says later to Elf Queen. Anyway that fight isn't important here.

😐
Then why the hell are you referencing Blood Oath if you think they're going to just stand there and punch each other in the face?
Hercules got the momentary advantage using a HEAD LOCK or whatever.
You aren't even making any sense here.

Its a fist fight, not a slugfest. How do you think Thor wins 6/10 in a slugfest?

I don't have the previous page obviously, that's why I googled for that image.

Torrents are your friend.

It's not a serious comic not because furniture survived a NUCLEAR explosion but because the Thing, Hulk, and all the villains (Including Mole Man) apparently survived. Under a writer who considers them fatal to Top Tiers in pretty much every other iteration.

The villains had left the house IIRC. That's not true. Lobo survived a nuke in Young Justice IIRC.

But that's beside the point. You consider it valid so you have no grounds to dismiss something because of humor. As long as that's clear.

I'm not dismissing it because of humor.

What was an act?
Hercules was winning in Blood Oath via head lock. Thor was winning under Pak via a nut shot.

Except one is in character for Herc. Kicking somebody in nuts is grossly OOC for Thor.