Because that's what we saw? Anyways like I said, Ares who wasn't even hit by the lightning was groggy from the shock of possession. Masterson was hit with the lightning AND was the one being possessed and still got up right on the next page:
Also note that he seemed to have heard the conversation with Hera so he wasn't unconscious either. Most likely woozy like Ares.
Either way, tackling someone down doesn't prove equality much less superiority. Especially if that person literally wants you to kill them.
Because moving someone's arms down a few inches, especially from a position that gives you a HUGE advantage does not require superior strength. Masteson arm was outstretched as Hercules forced it down from the top. Heck, I don't see how Masterson could be anything less then Hercule's equal as it was such a struggle. He was even able to force back up after Hercules forced it down.. I'm sure if 3 strikes were required, he would have gained some ground again, and so on.
I don't know, ask the writer. Masterson even pointed out that he wasn't quite as strong as Thor. There are also plenty of instances noting his inability compared to Thor. Lack of experience, not being an immortal, weaker will power are all possible answers. Actually, he had an Asgardian enchantment that gave him a body like Thor's IIRC.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In first he just flipped Herc, that's not overpowering.In fact they stalemated in armwrestling in the very next issue.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules15Thor222.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHercules16.jpg
Herc overpowered Ares Controlled Masterson Thor far more convincingly and recovered earlier than him.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304667/Avengers349_14a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304668/Avengers349_14b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304669/Avengers349_15b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304670/Avengers349_16b.jpg.html
Well...considering I didn't say overpowered...your right?
Originally posted by MindsetObviously that isnt the standard way to CHOKE somebody but as far as a hold or setup goes thats not bad at all. I have seen people do something similar to get a persons chin untucked. That kind of hold is only easily broken in a standing position usually you dont want to hold on to a shoulder like Thor is doing usually gripping the collar or the clothing is the best way.
No, it wouldn't.You want to cut of blood flow to the brain, pushing his head up is the exact opposite of what should be done.
The hold would be easy to break as well, nothing about it is right.
Originally posted by iceman24567No, he didn't even lock his hands, there is almost no leverage to that hold.
Hmm unorthodox hold but it actually looks like it would work....
Originally posted by Mindset
Not the same hold, also, whoever drew that should be publicly executed.My god, that is terrible.
This too.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No, he didn't even lock his hands, there is almost no leverage to that hold.This too.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Obviously that isnt the standard way to CHOKE somebody but as far as a hold or setup goes thats not bad at all. I have seen people do something similar to get a persons chin untucked. That kind of hold is only easily broken in a standing position usually you dont want to hold on to a shoulder like Thor is doing usually gripping the collar or the clothing is the best way.
Originally posted by iceman24567What is pictured is the standard way to look like a doofus.
Obviously that isnt the standard way to CHOKE somebody but as far as a hold or setup goes thats not bad at all. I have seen people do something similar to get a persons chin untucked. That kind of hold is only easily broken in a standing position usually you dont want to hold on to a shoulder like Thor is doing usually gripping the collar or the clothing is the best way.
Originally posted by Khazra RebornDont have to know bbj to know better. Just knowing a tiny bit about human anatomy will suffice.
You guys are splitting hairs, the artist is obviously not a black belt in BJJ, and doesn't have to be able to draw out a perfectly executed rear naked choke for us to figure out what's going on.It is quite ugly though.
Originally posted by Khazra RebornThat's not at all a rnc, maybe the artist wasn't intending it to be one.
You guys are splitting hairs, the artist is obviously not a black belt in BJJ, and doesn't have to be able to draw out a perfectly executed rear naked choke for us to figure out what's going on.It is quite ugly though.
Or maybe it is showing him trying to maneuver into a rnc, in any case, it's not the same move.
Originally posted by Khazra RebornNo it doesn't.
Right, not exactly the same, I don't think anyone is saying it's exactly the same. But it is similar, and at the very least requires the same degree of strength to just, straight up break free from.
While standing, that hold wouldn't be difficult to break; you'd be lucky to get out of a rnc.
