NSW Jedi vs ToR Sith

Started by Astor Ebligis3 pagesPoll

Who takes it?

NSW Jedi vs ToR Sith

The 100 best, unnamed Jedi of the New Sith Wars take on the 100 best unnamed Sith of The Old Republic, on a neutral world, and on a simple field large enough to hold all 200 of them. Rather than being grouped together, the Jedi and Sith are scattered randomly throughout the area, and everyone is in close proximity to the people that directly surround them.

Go!

The Sith dominate. The 100 best unnamed Sith of TOR would be be highly advanced Sith Warriors or Sorcerers. Swtor era Sith are simply a cut above the Sith these Jedi have had to deal with.

Also, this isn't the thread I suggested. You know that in a real Empire vs Empire thread the TOR side would dominate.

Not at all, I just only care about the Jedi/Sith.

1. Jedi have the advantage in that the lightside is at its greatest strength when spread across large numbers, darkside at its weakest when it is diluted among large numbers.

2. Jedi have far more JvS war experience, have the advantage of hundreds of years to perfect their teachings, training methods and strategy in a way that is suited to JvS war.

3. Jedi by their nature are better suited to working as a team, recognising that they are a cog in a machine, Sith on the other hand have large egos and will also often turn against eachother. This might be the perfect opportunity for a rival Sith to take out another by surprise.

4. Jedi are on average and as a whole superior due to survival of the fittest and Jedi from a strictly war scenario; Sith progress through survival of the fittest also but this is largely due to deception, betrayal, secrecy etc and not reflective of combat prowess.

Jedi win.

1. Only according to Bane's opinion. The TOR era Sith Empire proves him rather wrong in that respect. Considering that they have millions of extremely strong Sith and some of the strongest Sith Lords in the mythos. Vitiate, Malgus, Nox, Jadus, Scourge, the Emperor's Wrath, the Dread Masters (capable of destroying entire fleets solo) etc. All incredibly powerful.

2. This isn't a war, its a single battle. And the Swtor era Sith had 1,300 years of preparation to hone their battle skills from those of the already potent Golden Age of the Sith.

3. Jedi are also easily distracted by having their fellow Jedi slain before them on the battlefield. Sith on the other hand are completely focused on killing Jedi, they very rarely turn on each other in battle and only for personal reasons. Considering these are anonymous Sith I don't think that will be an issue.

4. Thats not how it works in the TOR era Empire. An Sith Acolyte is put through literal hell just to survive the training on Korriban, often sent on suicidal missions for no reason at all. In the entire mythos the concept of survival of the fittest is most prevailant in this era in these Sith.

1. That doesn't prove him wrong, in any way the presence of Bane, Kaan, Kas'im, Githany, Kopekz, Qordis, Krux Kral or Sirak in the BoD proves him wrong. You can still have powerful people with a limited fuel supply, just like an incredibly powerful darkside doesn't suck simply because he's on a lightside nexus, but it is a valid disadvantage. Bane's opinion is verified by the propechy of the Sith'ari.

2. It's the kind of scenario you would have in a war brosepoh.

3. Hahaha, please. 😂 Sith are genuinely known for betraying each other, Jedi on the other hand are not known for letting their emotions interfere with their duty. And even if it did, Jedi typically become enraged and far more powerful in those scenarios. Anonymous to us, not to eachother.

4. There will still be the opportunity for trachery etc. and a real Sith takes every opportunity they can get to rise above their peers.

Dread Masters solo.

/thread.

Who the hell are the dread masters

6 immortal Sith Lords who can destroy entire fleets through their fear powers.

They're all really freaking powerful.

Google is your friend, bro.

Some alien Force newbie leeched a fraction of power from one Dread Master and could ragdoll people into 20+ foot statues and destroy them. They are OP.

What part of the story is that at? I'm only playing as a Knight and I've only gotten to Taris so far.

Belsavis. The Imperial players free them from captivity. Then they have an end-game planet and a few Operations to themselves.

I'm sure Vitiate, like Ragnos before him, keeps these amazingly superior vassals pacified with political acumen instead of overwhelming power.

Didn't ask for spoilers bro... 😐

Just tell me the class/planet/level.

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Didn't ask for spoilers bro... 😐

Just tell me the class/planet/level.

This would make sense if the Dread Masters were a huge part of the plot of TOR.

So how did they die/who got rid of them.

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Didn't ask for spoilers bro... 😐

Just tell me the class/planet/level.

Any Imperial class/Belsavis/40-ish I think.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I'm sure Vitiate, like Ragnos before him, keeps these amazingly superior vassals pacified with political acumen instead of overwhelming power.

Strangely enough though the Dread Masters have done some stuff thats more impressive than anything Vitiate has, like mentally dominating armies and destroying fleets. Vitiate is definitely more powerful than them though. I just wish Bioware would show us that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Any Imperial class/Belsavis/40-ish I think.

Strangely enough though the Dread Masters have done some stuff thats more impressive than anything Vitiate has, like mentally dominating armies and destroying fleets. Vitiate is definitely more powerful than them though. I just wish Bioware would show us that.

I know. A lot of his power over others is inferred. But his domination over the Dark Temple and purging his own council is pretty impressive, among things.

Oh yeah. Vitiate with prep can beat pretty much anyone.

EVEN NIHILUS?

The NSW Sith, compared to their TOR counterparts, were soft as marshmallows. Look at say, Sirak. He was supposed to be the best they had (not including Bane) and he turned out to be a joke.

The TOR Sith had ridiculously high standards. Look at the Inquisitor plotline; a Acolyte named Kory was killed just because she was kindhearted. Compare that to the NSW Sith who basically let anyone in as long as they could touch the Force at all.

You know that saying about how a hero is judged by the quality of his villains? That's basically the case here. The NSW Jedi are accustomed to facing watered-down, weaker quality Sith. In this scenario they would be totally unprepared and would get torn apart.