Re: Revan Vs Mace Windu
Originally posted by Board Walker
This is Revan post of the mmo rpg SWOTOR.Let us assume that at the end of the fight with the player controlled group, he then used his powers to open up a space/time rift and escaped. He then landed in the time of the clone wars, specifically during the time frame of episode 3. Windu is off to arrest Palpatine, however due to the strange force disturbance generated by Revan's arrival Palpatine leaves his office.
Thus Windu arrives to Palpatine's office alone intending to arrest him, to instead find a time/space displace Revan.
Does Revan with his centuries of battle experience, and force knowledge gained from studying as well as reading the Sith Emperor's mind aid him? Or Does Windu's vaapad give him the victory in this fight to the death.
Originally posted by AncientPowerKarpyshyn doesn't know **** and you still have yet to reply to me posting about revan's duels with swtor characters as well as kotor characters.
Still yet to see any dueling feats or accolades on Mace Windu tier for Revan. Probably because they don't exist and Revan isn't even as good a duelist as Darth Malak, according to Karpyshyn.
The creator of Revan's character doesn't know 'shit'? Okay then, fallacious logic time today I guess. Oh and as I have already stated SWTOR is filled with game mechanics. Only cutscenes within the game itself can be taken into account, in all occasions Revan uses the Force to attack. Both Revan fights are clearly dominated by Force attacks leaving little room for lightsaber abilities to be brought into account.
Drew Karpyshyn, has stated that Darth Malak is likely a better duelist than Revan. Mace Windu, a Jedi Weapons Master & innovator of lightsaber combat is far greater than Darth Malak in dueling ability thus leaving very little room to argue with.
This entire argument has only proved what I already knew was the case. It is not enough to concede that Revan is the superior Force user. Revan must also be widely accepted as an unstoppable duelist amongst the very top of all time.
Provide me with outright dueling feats that compare with Mace Windu's or concede already.
Originally posted by AncientPowerUnless you're going by the flawed "X has no feats, therefore Y is better" logic, that's very speculative. There is not enough data to determine who is better.
Drew Karpyshyn, has stated that Darth Malak is likely a better duelist than Revan. Mace Windu, a Jedi Weapons Master & innovator of lightsaber combat is far greater than Darth Malak in dueling ability thus leaving very little room to argue with.
Originally posted by AncientPowerYou're joking right? How the hell does he make a statement about Malak being a better duelist and think that it makes sense? Revan destroyed Malak in a one on one duel, held his own against Malak in another duel, and then killed Malak in their third duel against each other (when Malak was greatly amped and revan was still at least partially amnesiac). Also, I would think that you would know better than to use ABC logic.
Drew Karpyshyn, has stated that Darth Malak is likely a better duelist than Revan. Mace Windu, a Jedi Weapons Master & innovator of lightsaber combat is far greater than Darth Malak in dueling ability thus leaving very little room to argue with.
Originally posted by AncientPowerWhat the hell is wrong with you? I never made any mention of Revan being among the very top of all time but he most certainly is capable of dueling Windu and putting up a very good fight. To say that Windu is far and away better than revan in dueling is only going to make you seem ignorant.
This entire argument has only proved what I already knew was the case. It is not enough to concede that Revan is the superior Force user. Revan must also be widely accepted as an unstoppable duelist amongst the very top of all time.
Originally posted by AncientPowerSo him beating Juhani when he was only a padawan isn't impressive? Him slaughtering two Terenteraks at the same time and then only minutes later proceeding to defeat Uthar Wynn and Yuthura Ban isn't impressive? I mean, it's totally not like him slaughtering all of the dark acolytes, sith apprentices, elite sith troopers, and war droids and then proceeding to defeat a twice amped malak is in Windu's level of dueling ability right? Him defeating Calo Nord twice totally isn't impressive. Fighting his way through dozens of sith war droids and troopers on the crumbling Endar Spire isn't a good display of skill. Him defeating Satele Shan isn't impressive? Defeating Mandalor the Ultimate isn't a good feat? I literally spent half a minute looking up revan's dueling feats and I've already come up with this.
Provide me with outright dueling feats that compare with Mace Windu's or concede already.
Originally posted by AncientPowerI'm probably a pariah here when it comes to this, but yeah, this is nothing more than versus forum logic. Don't get me wrong. By versus forum logic, I 100% agree with you I guess, but versus forum logic is not logical.
Arguably one of the top five duelists of all time vs a Sith Lord with a generic great duelist accolade. I know who I pick.