Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. H1s argument also relies on instakilling Thor. That's apparently in character for the Hulk.How am I lowballing here? Only you would think losing to a skyfather level being is lowballing lol.
I don't think you are lowballing in THIS thread but you do lowball (and don't notice you're doing it) to help your character win.
I agreed with you a long time ago that Thor wins but the way you are sprouting out him winning has never been shown once in a comic. Thor that entire comic fought with the blasting punching tactic, even against powerful foes and you expect me to believe he is going to stop time 10/10 when for 1 he only used that ONCE and two, the time he did use it, it wasn't in combat. An argument can be made for Superman using speed during combat, because honestly, he does. An argument can be made for Stardust opening black holes during combat because on panel, she has done this in a fight, twice. Thor stopping time as soon as the bell ring, ain't happening. Doesn't even seem like something he would do. You debate based off abilities, throwing the characters personality out of the window. This isn't CBR...I would love for it to be so that I can go into that Orion and Gladiator thread and say Gladiator blitz Orion as soon as the bell ring at 100 times the speed of light with planet busting punches, but for one that isn't how he would fight and two, he has never done that in his entire history of fighting someone. Do you not understand this?
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think you are lowballing in THIS thread but you do lowball (and don't notice you're doing it) to help your character win.
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I guess you'd know.
I agreed with you a long time ago that Thor wins but the way you are sprouting out him winning has never been shown once in a comic. Thor that entire comic fought with the blasting punching tactic, even against powerful foes and you expect me to believe he is going to stop time 10/10 when for 1 he only used that ONCE and two, the time he did use it, it wasn't in combat. An argument can be made for Superman using speed during combat, because honestly, he does. An argument can be made for Stardust opening black holes during combat because on panel, she has done this in a fight, twice. Thor stopping time as soon as the bell ring, ain't happening. Doesn't even seem like something he would do. You debate based off abilities, throwing the characters personality out of the window. This isn't CBR...I would love for it to be so that I can go into that Orion and Gladiator thread and say Gladiator blitz Orion as soon as the bell ring at 100 times the speed of light with planet busting punches, but for one that isn't how he would fight and two, he has never done that in his entire history of fighting someone. Do you not understand this?
No, I never said he'd stop time as soon as the bell run - I don't think I did, anyway. And if I did, that was only because some posters were talking about WBH going in for the kill as soon as the bell went.
And IF he starts losing a slugfest, he would use his more exotic powers. How do you not believe this? Being in character is on, yes, and like I said, a younger, weaker, brasher Thor was unable to defeat a weaker version of the Hulk, and resorted to BFR.
So an older, wiser Thor, upon seeing/sensing (depending on what losing that eye meant for him) a MUCH MUCH more powerful Hulk, would, IF he's losing a slugfest, would....what, continue slugging? We saw in the fight what happened when Thor was losing a fight with Galactus - he went and got the Necroblade and gave himself to it. So in character, he is not above pulling weird tricks and shenanigans. Of course, in this fight, the Necroblade is not standard equipment, so he's not pulling it out. But in character, he will shift and change his tactics and try other things.
Now do you understand where I am trying to come from?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85.......
I guess you'd know.
No, I never said he'd stop time as soon as the bell run - I don't think I did, anyway. And if I did, that was only because some posters were talking about WBH going in for the kill as soon as the bell went.
And IF he starts losing a slugfest, he would use his more exotic powers. How do you not believe this? Being in character is on, yes, and like I said, a younger, weaker, brasher Thor was unable to defeat a weaker version of the Hulk, and resorted to BFR.
So an older, wiser Thor, upon seeing/sensing (depending on what losing that eye meant for him) a MUCH MUCH more powerful Hulk, would, IF he's losing a slugfest, would....what, continue slugging? We saw in the fight what happened when Thor was losing a fight with Galactus - he went and got the Necroblade and gave himself to it. So in character, he is not above pulling weird tricks and shenanigans. Of course, in this fight, the Necroblade is not standard equipment, so he's not pulling it out. But in character, he will shift and change his tactics and try other things.
Now do you understand where I am trying to come from? [/B]
Now THIS is a more reasonable argument.
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WBH retains his same mindset as in the comic. That means he will kill. Otherwise, we would have a holding back Hulk (a non WBH which contradicts the OP).
With that said, Hulk's blunt force power output>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any blunt force durability showing of KThor. So Hulk kills him instantly.
Originally posted by carver9
The planet wasn't destroyed when Galactus hit him with that punch.
You resort to using collateral damage whenever it suits your argument. Disingenuous method of debate, that is.
Originally posted by h1a8
WBH retains his same mindset as in the comic. That means he will kill. Otherwise, we would have a holding back Hulk (a non WBH which contradicts the OP).
With that said, Hulk's blunt force power output>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any blunt force durability showing of KThor. So Hulk kills him instantly.
Nope.
A: Hulk only unleashed his full fury when he realised Betty could take it/the rest of the Dark dimension would be renewed. Before that, in the same storyline, he wasn't breaking things.
B:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
From Thor, God of Thunder 21:So we know its King Thor.
From the same comic:
His rage DOTH burn like a billion supernovas....and his fists fall with the force of the same.
The use of 'doth' leads me to read it as archaic UK English. In that, 'billion' is a million million (and not a thousand million like you Yankees use).
So, yeah. If we want to use narration and what the writers were intending to show.....
Also, just a minor point, but this was an old King Thor, whose own granddaughters were treating him like some doddering old coot (IOW, he was hardly a raging warrior beast in his prime):
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A further point:Last Days of Midgard storyline (i.e. Thor: God of Thunder #19)started in February 2014.
Source: http://marvel.com/comics/issue/48850/thor_god_of_thunder_2012_19This thread was created in March 2014.
So, the thread starter was likely using this version of KThor, JUST IN CASE, h1, you tried to argue that we were doing different versions.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Irrelevant. The room which Molecule Man was standing in wasn't destroyed when he hit the Beyonder with a blast that could slag a billion dimensions.You resort to using collateral damage whenever it suits your argument. Disingenuous method of debate, that is.
Sarcastic post my friend. I don't debate off of collateral damage. Dark does (whenever it suits him).
Originally posted by carver9
Sarcastic post my friend. I don't debate off of collateral damage. Dark does (whenever it suits him).
Originally posted by carver9
Bill 10/10 and easily. Doomsday got killed by a punch that shattered windows whereas Bill has destroyed planets with his punches.Do the math on that H1A8
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk delivering punches that Earth heros are struggling to even walk through...the shockwaves alone are sending people flying. Even high class 100 are straining to advance towards the fight due to Hulks punching power.http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3433/onslaught1b6nt.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5554/onslaught1c7fw.jpgWith their physical might, the air rages with atomic thunder...for miles Windows break..earthquakes.
Originally posted by carver9
Hercules has lifting feats of lifting an entire island whereas dos doomsday 😕Doomsday got taken out by a punch that shattered windows where hercules has taken much more punishment and bounced back up.
And we all know that herc is a much better fighter.
Doomsday never showed ANY kind of speed feat, just something indicated from a low meta.
Originally posted by carver9
When I see superman destroy a planet than i would consider him stronger than thor, until then my answer stays. During the superman and doomsday battle they didnt do nothing but break some windows and they were going all out but when beta ray bill and star d was fighting beta ray bill destroyed a planet with one hit. Planet>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>windows. Im glad that you brought the earth 2 and earth 1 superman fight up since when they were fighting it wasnt doing nothing but destroying pieces of the street.
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Edit: From today, 10 or so minutes after posting the above statement, carver posts this:
Originally posted by carver9
...Was still fighting while the planet was exploding. ...
Originally posted by carver9
He withstood a scream that was so powerful that it was causing planetary destruction from the moon. The whisper he withstood took a chunk out of the moon the size of Rhode Island.Also...During his fight with Sentry it was stated that Hulk was enduring the power of a million exploding suns.
Originally posted by h1a8
How so? It was shown that Thor became righteous in his belief and this allowed him to overcome Desak's enchantment (Thor's own words).
Otherwise, what was the writer intentions towards Thor not having the power to kill Desak and then suddenly having the power to do it AFTER his relevation?
If you want to take that literally, go ahead but all it would mean is that in the face of evil, the Odin Power is unlimited.
But what you're suggesting was never implied. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even make sense. Being righteous doesn't allow you to overcome Desak's enchantment. His earlier fights against Bill/Thor/Hercules prove this to be a lie.
The intention? The writer's intention was that Thor's a badass that has a long history of doing that type of shit.
